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In this episode, host Corey Nathan addresses the pressing issue of how pro-democracy patriots - the large coalition of folks who believe in this American experiment - can endure during times when anti-democratic tendencies are metastasizing. Drawing from personal experiences, philosophical insights, and cultural reflections, we explore ways of maintaining hope, practicing discernment, and fostering meaningful connections amid political division.

What We Discuss:

Strategies for practicing discernment in consuming media and news.
The importance of mindfulness and staying present in times of uncertainty.
How local and state-level civic participation can make a meaningful impact.
Insights into nurturing relationships with those holding differing political views.
The role of beauty, truth, and community in sustaining democratic ideals.

Episode Highlights:

[00:00:00] Introduction: Corey shares updates on a recent wildfire evacuation and gratitude for firefighters' efforts.
[00:03:00] Pro-Democracy Patriots: Corey explores how individuals committed to democracy can stay engaged and positive during anti-democratic times.
[00:06:00] Reflecting on MLK Day: The significance of Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy and the moral universe's arc bending toward justice.
[00:10:00] Media Discernment: Corey discusses how he filters through news and commentary to focus on credible journalism and meaningful content.
[00:19:00] Practicing Mindfulness: The importance of staying present in the moment to avoid spiraling into anxiety.
[00:22:00] Truth and Beauty: A reflection on Kristen du Mez's advice to seek out beauty and truth for strength and grounding.
[00:27:00] Navigating Relationships: Balancing relationships with those holding differing political views while maintaining personal boundaries.
[00:28:00] Local Civic Engagement: Why local and state politics deserve more attention and how they affect daily life more significantly than federal issues.

Featured Quotes:

“The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” – Reflecting on MLK Jr.’s wisdom.
“Practicing discernment means filtering out the junk from the substance and focusing on credible voices.” – Corey Nathan.
“You can still love people who disagree with you—sometimes from a safe distance.” – Corey Nathan.
“Truth is about staying generous in a world that baits you into resentment.” – Kristen Du Mez.

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How Pro-Democracy Patriots Can Persist in an Anti-Democratic Time

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What We Discuss:

Strategies for practicing discernment in consuming media and news.
The importance of mindfulness and staying present in times of uncertainty.
How local and state-level civic participation can make a meaningful impact.
Insights into nurturing relationships with those holding differing political views.
The role of beauty, truth, and community in sustaining democratic ideals.

Episode Highlights:

[00:00:00] Introduction: Corey shares updates on a recent wildfire evacuation and gratitude for firefighters' efforts.
[00:03:00] Pro-Democracy Patriots: Corey explores how individuals committed to democracy can stay engaged and positive during anti-democratic times.
[00:06:00] Reflecting on MLK Day: The significance of Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy and the moral universe's arc bending toward justice.
[00:10:00] Media Discernment: Corey discusses how he filters through news and commentary to focus on credible journalism and meaningful content.
[00:19:00] Practicing Mindfulness: The importance of staying present in the moment to avoid spiraling into anxiety.
[00:22:00] Truth and Beauty: A reflection on Kristen du Mez's advice to seek out beauty and truth for strength and grounding.
[00:27:00] Navigating Relationships: Balancing relationships with those holding differing political views while maintaining personal boundaries.
[00:28:00] Local Civic Engagement: Why local and state politics deserve more attention and how they affect daily life more significantly than federal issues.

Featured Quotes:

“The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” – Reflecting on MLK Jr.’s wisdom.
“Practicing discernment means filtering out the junk from the substance and focusing on credible voices.” – Corey Nathan.
“You can still love people who disagree with you—sometimes from a safe distance.” – Corey Nathan.
“Truth is about staying generous in a world that baits you into resentment.” – Kristen Du Mez.

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Beyond Arguments: Setting Boundaries and Clearing the Brush for Civil Political and Religious Conversations 38:26

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In this episode, we explore some essential tools for navigating difficult conversations in today’s polarized world. After all, we are part of The Democracy Group ! And our goal with TDG and this program is to foster respectful, insightful discussions on politics, religion, and other sensitive topics—without resorting to hostility. In this solo episode, Corey shares practical strategies for setting boundaries, "clearing the brush" (i.e. assumptions), and focusing on meaningful conversations rather than debates. 📌 What We Discuss: ✅ Why having clear boundaries is crucial for productive dialogue ✅ How to recognize and avoid being drawn into unproductive interrogations ✅ The importance of "clearing the brush" (i.e. assumptions) and engaging in genuine conversations ✅ Why listening and storytelling are more powerful than debating facts ✅ How building relationships—not just “winning” arguments—creates lasting change ⏳ Episode Highlights: 🕒 [00:00:00] – Welcome & Calls to Action: Corey shares updates on YouTube, podcast subscriptions, and Patreon. 🕒 [00:06:00] – The Big Question: How do we engage in tough conversations without falling into arguments? 🕒 [00:07:00] – Setting Boundaries: Recognizing when a conversation is an interrogation vs. a genuine exchange. 🕒 [00:10:00] – Admitting Limitations: The power of saying, "I’m not an expert." 🕒 [00:14:00] – No Need to Defend What You Don’t Believe: Why you don’t have to argue every point. 🕒 [00:21:00] – Clearing the Brush: Breaking down stereotypes and assumptions before real discussions can begin. 🕒 [00:26:00] – Seeking Conversations, Not Contests: The difference between dialogue and debate. 🕒 [00:32:00] – The Daryl Davis Approach: How listening has led KKK members to renounce their beliefs. 🕒 [00:35:00] – Final Thoughts: Tools for better discussions and how to support the podcast. 💬 Featured Quotes: 🗣️ “There is no need to submit to an interrogation. If you want to have a conversation, let’s have a conversation.” – Corey Nathan 🗣️ “I don’t have to defend a position that I don’t hold.” – Corey Nathan 🗣️ “The road to solving a lot of what ails us is not in winning debates—it’s in having healthier conversations.” – Corey Nathan 🗣️ “Conversations lead to relationships, and relationships lead to epiphanies.” – Corey Nathan 📚 Resources Mentioned: 🔗 Daryl Davis – Watch his TED Talk 🔗 Braver Angels – Building Bridges Across Political Divides 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔥 Final Thought: Go out and have better conversations. Set boundaries, clear the brush, and seek dialogue—not debates. See you next time on Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other ! 🎙️…

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Charlie Sykes - From Reagan Republicans to RFK Jr.: How the Right Lost Its Mind (Again) 1:12:26

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Charlie Sykes, a prominent conservative commentator, former talk radio host, and founder of The Bulwark , who's currently writing and podcasting on his excellent Substack To the Contrary . Known for his sharp political insights and willingness to challenge the current trajectory of the Republican Party, Charlie discusses the erosion of democratic norms, the transformation of conservatism, and what the future holds for both parties. 📌 What We Discuss How the Republican Party shifted from traditional conservatism to a Trump-dominated movement. Why democracy faces real threats in the U.S. and globally. The importance of character in political leadership and why many conservatives abandoned this principle. Whether a pro-democracy coalition can hold back extremism in both parties. Charlie's thoughts on how we can have better political conversations without dehumanizing each other. ⏳ Episode Highlights 🔹 [00:01:00] Charlie’s Journey: From influential conservative talk radio host to political outcast in the Trump era. 🔹 [00:05:00] The Evolution of Trumpism: Why Trump 2.0 is even more dangerous than his first presidency. 🔹 [00:12:00] Engaging With Trump Supporters: Is it possible to change minds, or should we focus on mobilizing pro-democracy voters? 🔹 [00:22:00] The Republican Party’s Transformation: How the far-right fringe became the mainstream. 🔹 [00:35:00] Can Democrats Avoid the Same Mistakes? Learning from the GOP's takeover by extremists. 🔹 [00:47:00] America’s Role in the World: Why the U.S. is no longer seen as the leader of the free world. 🔹 [01:02:00] Building Bridges Across Differences: The importance of assuming goodwill and finding shared values. 💬 Featured Quotes "I’d rather be right than Marco Rubio right now." – Charlie Sykes "The Republican Party had multiple off-ramps to reject Trumpism, and they took none of them." – Charlie Sykes "We are living through history, and we don’t have the luxury of indifference." – Charlie Sykes "The challenge isn’t just about talking politics—it’s about figuring out how to get through this without killing each other." – Corey Nathan 📚 Resources Mentioned Charlie Sykes’ Substack Newsletter : To the Contrary Charlie’s 2018 book: How the Right Lost Its Mind The Identity Trap by Yascha Mounk 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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Grave Concerns and Glimmers of Hope: Navigating the State of US Politics 28:07

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares his candid thoughts on hope, concerns about the state of democracy, and the importance of engaging in meaningful conversations. Inspired by recent discussions with David French and Charlie Sykes, Corey explores whether he remains hopeful about the future—both at the national level and in his local community. What You Will Learn The state of American democracy and the balance of power How the First Amendment is being threatened Why the judicial branch has been a critical check on executive overreach The role of civil discourse in bridging ideological divides How personal relationships offer reasons for hope Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction: Exploring the question of hope in today’s political climate [00:01:30] – Why Corey is concerned about the balance of power in government [00:05:00] – The judicial branch as a key safeguard against executive overreach [00:07:30] – Threats to First Amendment rights, including freedom of speech and the press [00:12:00] – The rise of online hostility and how it impacts public discourse [00:18:00] – Finding hope through local engagement and personal relationships [00:22:00] – The power of human connection in bridging political divides Featured Quotes "I have concerns about the balance of power and our First Amendment rights—but that doesn't mean I’m without hope." "When we engage with each other at the local level, it becomes about relationships instead of transactions." "If we really want to change things, we have to start by recognizing each other's humanity." 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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David French | Friends or Enemies? Overcoming Divides with Justice, Kindness, and Humility in a Polarized America 1:15:36

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In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times , former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall . We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update on his family and reflects on the profound trials and growth that come with adversity. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ How David and his family navigated the challenges of a serious health crisis. ✔️ The rise of political polarization and the factors driving it. ✔️ Why distinguishing between “unwise, unethical, and unlawful” is crucial in analyzing political actions. ✔️ How consuming different perspectives (even opposing ones) helps in understanding political dynamics. ✔️ The role of Christian values in politics and how they are being redefined. ⏳ Episode Highlights 📍 [00:01:00] – David French’s background and his journey from litigation to journalism. 📍 [00:02:30] – Personal update: David shares his wife Nancy’s battle with cancer and their journey as a family. 📍 [00:06:00] – How to navigate personal trials while maintaining faith and resilience. 📍 [00:10:00] – The danger of political paranoia and the pitfalls of extreme polarization. 📍 [00:18:00] – The "friend-enemy" paradigm in American politics and its influence in Christian fundamentalism. 📍 [00:24:00] – Revisiting Divided We Fall : How America’s divisions have devolved since 2020. 📍 [00:40:00] – The categories and differences of unwise, unethical, and unlawful political actions. 📍 [00:55:00] – The balance between justice, kindness, and humility in political engagement. 📍 [01:00:00] – The After Party initiative: A Christian approach to politics focused on values rather than policy. 💬 Featured Quotes 🔹 "You don't know who you truly are until your values are tested." – David French 🔹 "If we focus on the relational, we can have better conversations even across deep differences." – Corey Nathan 🔹 "Justice, kindness, and humility—if you're missing one, you're doing it wrong." – David French 🔹 "The United States has a history of shifting without repenting. We just move on." – David French 📚 Resources Mentioned David French’s Writing: New York Times David’s Book: Divided We Fall The After Party Initiative – More Info Advisory Opinions Podcast (with Sarah Isgur & David French) – Listen Here 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack David French: 🔗 Twitter | BlueSky | New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…

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How to Discuss Ukraine: First Principles, Facts, and Formulating Reasoned Positions 33:54

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In this episode we dive into the complex issue of Ukraine, America's involvement, and the broader implications for democracy and global alliances. This episode is an exploration of how we can develop reasoned positions on global conflicts, engage in informed discussions, and recognize the limitations of our own expertise. What We Discuss How to approach discussions about Ukraine with a reasoned, principled perspective. The importance of distinguishing between facts and opinions in political discourse. How to recognize and rely on credible experts rather than self-appointed commentators. Strategies for engaging in meaningful conversations with those who hold different views. Why shared values and historical context matter in forming ethical positions. Episode Highlights [00:01:00] – Corey introduces the topic, emphasizing the importance of forming reasoned opinions based on principles rather than political affiliations. [00:04:00] – The rise of divisive, “owning the libs” mentalities in political discourse and the shift away from virtues like decency and integrity. [00:06:00] – Discussion of a powerful article by Dr. Russell Moore on the moral costs of ignoring Ukraine’s plight and the dangers of moral relativism in international affairs. [00:09:00] – The importance of verifying facts through reputable sources like the Council on Foreign Relations, rather than relying on partisan opinionators. [00:13:00] – Why experts like Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Anne Applebaum and military expert Alexander Vindman are critical voices in understanding the Ukraine conflict. [00:18:00] – The dangers of allowing misinformation to shape public opinion and the tactics used in political debates to shift blame and avoid accountability. [00:24:00] – Strategies for having better conversations, including finding shared values, hunting for points of agreement, and engaging with intellectual humility. [00:28:00] – A reflection on balancing justice, kindness, and humility in both personal interactions and global politics, inspired by Micah 6:8. Featured Quotes 🗣 “We can formulate reasoned positions on complicated issues, including Ukraine, by starting with principles rather than political affiliations.” 🗣 “Opinion is not fact. There’s a difference between listening to a trusted expert and being swayed by a partisan commentator.” 🗣 “What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God...” – Micah 6:8 Resources Mentioned Dr. Russell Moore’s Essay – The Moral Cost of Murdering Ukraine Anne Applebaum’s Article – The End of the Post-War World Council on Foreign Relations – Ukraine Conflict Updates (CFR) Alexander Vindman’s Book – The Folly of Realism: How the West Deceived Itself About Russia and Betrayed Ukraine Ross Douthat’s Opinion Piece – Trump and Vance Are Stripping Away Foreign Policy Illusions 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep the conversation going—respectfully and thoughtfully! 🎙️✨…

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Rep. Ritchie Torres on Israel, Trump, and Political Extremism: A Congressman's Fight for Moral Clarity 31:18

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In this episode we sit down with Congressman Ritchie Torres, a fighter from the Bronx who has spent his life advocating for his community. We discuss pressing issues such as the social safety net, housing inequality, mental health, bipartisanship, and Rep. Torres’ personal journey from public housing to Congress. We also touch on Israel, antisemitism, and the future of American democracy. What We Discuss: How Congressman Torres’ personal experiences with poverty and public housing shaped his political career. His perspective on the Republican budget resolution and its impact on working-class Americans. Why mental health advocacy is deeply personal to him and the tools he uses to maintain his well-being. His unwavering support for Israel and the backlash he has faced because of it. Insights on the current political landscape, Donald Trump’s influence, and the need for bipartisanship. Whether Rep. Torres is considering a run for governor of New York and what motivates his political aspirations. How to engage in better political and religious discussions without hostility. Episode Highlights: [00:01:00] Introducing Ritchie Torres – His background, legislative achievements, and what drives him. [00:02:00] GOP Budget Cuts & Social Safety Net – Why the latest proposal is a “frontal assault” on working-class Americans. [00:04:00] Personal Story & His Greatest Hero – How being raised by a single mother in the Bronx shaped his worldview. [00:07:00] Mental Health & Politics – How Rep. Torres overcame depression and why he’s open about talking about mental health. [00:14:00] Facing Backlash for Supporting Israel – The threats and vitriol he has endured for his stance. [00:20:00] Avoiding Political Distractions – Why he focuses on core economic issues instead of social media trends. [00:22:00] Trump 2.0 & The Future of Democracy – His concerns about a second Trump presidency. [00:25:00] Political Future: Running for Governor? – Why he believes New York needs a new generation of leadership. [00:27:00] How to Talk Politics Without Killin' Each Other – The importance of intellectual humility and pluralism. Featured Quotes: “Before I’m a congressman or a councilman, I’m first and foremost the son of my mother...” “I refuse to live in fear of the extremes. I insist on doing what I think is right, even if it means standing alone.” “Not only should civil discourse be possible, it’s a necessity for a pluralistic democracy like ours.” “If you do the same thing over and over and expect a different result, that’s the definition of insanity.” 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s continue the conversation with gentleness and respect—and have a great week! 🎙️…

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ICYMI: 7 Tools for Engaging With "Them" 43:54

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Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations? (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was first aired just after the inauguration.) In this edition, host Corey Nathan explores how we can have meaningful, respectful, and productive conversations with those who think differently from us—politically, religiously, and ideologically. After four years of hosting the show and speaking with a wide array of guests, Corey shares his own insights, offering seven practical tools (plus a bonus tip) for engaging with “one of them” in a way that fosters connection rather than division. What Is Discussed How to give yourself and others grace in difficult conversations The importance of setting proper expectations when discussing sensitive topics Why asking the right questions is more powerful than having the perfect comeback How storytelling can humanize those with whom we disagree The value of being open to the phrase "I never thought of it that way" How to recognize when it’s time to step away from a conversation or to love someone "from a safe distance" Resources and organizations that can help you navigate difficult discussions Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Reviews from listeners: the good, the bad, and the constructive ⏳ [00:05:00] – The purpose of this episode: sharing tools for engaging with "one of them" ⏳ [00:06:00] – Tool #1: Grace – Accepting that we will all make mistakes in these conversations ⏳ [00:09:00] – Tool #2: Proper Expectations – Why we shouldn't expect to change someone's mind 180 degrees ⏳ [00:12:00] – Tool #3: Asking Questions – Learning from Jesus' approach of responding with questions ⏳ [00:20:00] – Tool #4: Storytelling – The power of narrative in understanding each other as human beings ⏳ [00:25:00] – Tool #5: Being Open to "I Never Thought of It That Way" Moments ⏳ [00:32:00] – Tool #6: Recognizing Your Line – Knowing when to step away from an unhealthy dynamic ⏳ [00:35:00] – Tool #7: Equipping Yourself – Books, organizations, and resources for learning how to engage better ⏳ [00:38:00] – Bonus Tip: Taking Care of Yourself – Mental, emotional, and physical well-being in this work Featured Quotes 📢 “Give yourself grace. You’re not going to get it right every time.” 📢 “If we ask the right question, it allows that person, instead of being in a posture of combat, to tell their story.” 📢 “Trying to inform, like trying to win, can get in the way of trying to listen.” – Monica Guzmán (as quoted in the episode) 📢 “People are mysteries, not puzzles.” – Monica Guzmán Resources Mentioned 📖 Books: I Never Thought of It That Way – by Mónica Guzmán How to Know a Person – by David Brooks 🌍 Organizations: The Village Square – Encouraging healthy civic discourse Braver Angels – Bridging political divides through dialogue 🎥 Watch & Support the Podcast: YouTube Channel – Subscribe for video content Patreon – Support the show 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔹 Now go talk some politics and religion—but with gentleness and respect. 💡 #Politics #Religion #NeverTrump #Democracy #Faith #Justice #Civility #Polarization…

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Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde on Faith, Politics, and Ethical Conversations in a Polarized Nation 1:06:54

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In this timely edition of Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other , host Corey Nathan welcomes Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., and the Washington National Cathedral. Bishop Budde is a well-respected spiritual leader who has appeared on PBS NewsHour, Meet the Press , Good Morning America , and The Today Show . The conversation dives into Bishop Budde’s faith journey, her reflections on political and social issues, and her approach to leading with grace and courage in divisive times. The discussion also touches on the controversy surrounding her sermon and how she directly addressed Donald Trump at the National Cathedral following the 2025 presidential inauguration. What We Discuss Bishop Budde’s personal faith journey, from her early religious experiences to her leadership in the Episcopal Church. The challenges of navigating faith, politics, and national unity in today’s polarized climate. How to extend grace and practice mercy even in the face of criticism. The role of the church in advocating for social justice, particularly regarding immigration and LGBTQ+ rights. Strategies for engaging in difficult conversations while maintaining mutual respect. Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction to the episode and guest, Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde. [00:02:00] – Bishop Budde shares her faith journey and the struggles she faced reconciling different religious influences. [00:10:00] – The tension between faith and exclusivity: why some versions of Christianity felt limiting to her. [00:15:00] – The discipline of grace: choosing to respond with compassion rather than anger, even when faced with opposition. [00:26:00] – Bishop Budde’s response to the 2025 presidential inauguration sermon controversy and the importance of speaking truth with love. [00:38:00] – Handling criticism and maintaining a sense of personal and spiritual balance. [00:52:00] – Finding hope in uncertain times: How we can cultivate a spirit of resilience and faith amid societal challenges. [00:55:00] – The importance of dialogue: How to foster better conversations across political and religious differences. [01:03:00] – Final thoughts and how to follow Bishop Budde’s work. Featured Quotes "If it’s not about love, it’s not about God." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "The discipline of grace is a practice, not a gift. It’s about choosing to respond with love even when it’s difficult." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "To be raised from the dead—whatever that means in our own lives—requires our consent to live again, to have our hearts broken again, and to take on all of life again." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde "We need to ask ourselves: When was the last time I changed my mind? True dialogue requires being open to seeing the world differently." – Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde Resources Mentioned Bishop Budde’s Book: How We Learn to Be Brave Episcopal Diocese of Washington – www.edow.org 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde: Episcopal Church of Washington: Website Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Thank you for tuning in! Now go talk politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️✨ #Politics #Religion #NeverTrump #Democracy #BishopBudde #Faith #Justice #Inclusivity #SocialJustice #Civility #Polarization…

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The #1 Antidote for Toxic Partisanship 30:26

30 days ago30:26

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan takes on one of the biggest challenges in today’s society: toxic partisanship. He explores how political and social divisions have deepened, fueled by media, social networks, and entrenched ideological battles. But rather than just diagnosing the problem, Corey offers a powerful antidote—getting local and engaging in real-life, face-to-face conversations. He draws inspiration from scholars like Jonathan Haidt, Katherine Stewart and Robert Putnam, as well as his personal experiences, to make a compelling case for community-based solutions to polarization. What We Discuss ✅ The real extent of political division in America—and why it's not as bad as it seems ✅ How social media and national narratives exaggerate our differences ✅ The philosophy of Carl Schmitt and its impact on modern political discourse ✅ Why local engagement—like city council meetings, PTAs, and even bar conversations—is the key to bridging divides ✅ Practical steps to foster meaningful discussions and rebuild relationships Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – The growing problem of toxic partisanship and how social media makes it worse ⏳ [00:05:00] – A study from More in Common shows Americans want unity, but doubt the other side does ⏳ [00:09:00] – Corey shares personal examples of online political attacks and how they reflect broader polarization ⏳ [00:14:00] – A key solution: Local engagement and organizations like Village Square ⏳ [00:17:00] – How shared community goals, like better roads and schools, help bridge ideological divides ⏳ [00:20:00] – The inspiring story of Joe Walsh and Fred Guttenberg: Two ideological opposites who became close friends ⏳ [00:23:00] – The challenge of engaging with people who seem beyond reach—and knowing when to step away ⏳ [00:26:00] – A call to action: Take the first step, invite someone for coffee, and start humanizing one another Featured Quotes 🗨️ "Division defines the country, but the desire to be united transcends parties." – More in Common study 🗨️ "The number one antidote to toxic partisanship is simply getting together." – Corey Nathan 🗨️ "When you're with each other, you're no longer just a data point—you’re a human being." – Corey Nathan 🗨️ "We don't have to agree on everything to build something better together." – Liz Joyner, Village Square Resources Mentioned 🔗 Village Square – Bridging divides through local community engagement 🔗 More in Common Study – Research on polarization and unity 🔗 Jonathan Haidt’s Work – Understanding social and political divisions 🔗 Robert Putnam’s Bowling Alone – How community engagement strengthens democracy 🔗 Joe Walsh & Fred Guttenberg’s Story – Bridging the political divide 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔥 Now go talk some politics and religion—without killin' each other! 🔥…

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MONEY, LIES, AND GOD: INSIDE THE MOVEMENT TO DESTROY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY with author and investigative journalist Katherine Stewart 49:26

5 weeks ago49:26

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes investigative journalist and author Katherine Stewart back to the show. Katherine has spent over 15 years researching and reporting on religious nationalism and its impact on American democracy. Her new book, Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy, exposes the deep financial and ideological networks fueling Christian nationalism and the broader anti-democratic movement. This conversation explores how extreme wealth, disinformation, and religious nationalism are being weaponized against democracy—and what we can do about it. 📌 What We Discuss How Katherine Stewart uncovered the deeper connections between Christian nationalism and the assault on democracy. The role of money and misinformation in fueling anti-democratic movements. The reactionary nihilism driving today’s far-right ideologies. The influence of Carl Schmitt’s philosophy on modern authoritarian movements. The connection between Christian nationalism and billionaire-funded political agendas. How we can protect democracy and fight back against these movements. ⏳ Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction to Katherine Stewart Corey introduces Katherine Stewart, her investigative work, and her new book Money, Lies, and God . [00:03:00] – The Origins of Her Investigation Katherine shares how her research started with Good News Clubs infiltrating public schools and evolved into uncovering a broader movement attacking democracy. [00:12:00] – The Enlightenment Ideals America Was Founded On How fundamental American values like pluralism and democracy are under attack by Christian nationalist movements. [00:19:00] – The Role of Money, Lies, and Christian Nationalism How billionaires, propaganda, and religious nationalism work together to undermine democracy. [00:28:00] – The Psychology of the Movement Stories from inside Moms for Liberty and other right-wing organizations, and how fear and misinformation fuel these movements. [00:32:00] – Carl Schmitt and the Playbook of Authoritarianism How Nazi political theorist Carl Schmitt’s ideas on power, division, and permanent emergency are influencing the New Right. [00:41:00] – Why We Should Be Concerned—and What We Can Do Katherine explains why we should be alarmed, but also how grassroots activism can defend democracy. [00:44:00] – Final Thoughts: How We Can Build a Pro-Democracy Coalition Katherine shares her six key takeaways from Money, Lies, and God and why organization and truth-telling matter now more than ever. 📢 Featured Quotes "They told us they were going to smash the institutions that safeguard democracy—and that’s exactly what they’re doing." "This movement isn’t just about the culture wars—it’s about power, money, and dismantling democracy itself." "They want to replace public education with a religious and corporate-controlled system. The culture wars are just a smokescreen." "Not everybody who wants to go back to the ‘good old days’ is a nihilist. But those who want to smash democracy in pursuit of a mythical past certainly are." 📚 Resources Mentioned Katherine Stewart’s Website: KatherineStewart.me Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy – Available Everywhere Books Are Sold Carl Schmitt’s Political Theories – Learn More 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Katherine Stewart: Website Bluesky Latest in the New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🔥 Now go talk some politics and religion—without killin' each other! 🔥…

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Have Christians Forgotten the First Commandment? 34:04

5 weeks ago34:04

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In this edition, Corey Nathan challenges listeners—especially his fellow Christians—to consider whether they have forgotten the first commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." He explores how idolatry has evolved beyond worshiping wooden idols and now manifests in politics, ideology, and the way Christians engage with their faith in a modern democracy. This is meant to be an open conversation for people of all beliefs. Corey discusses the intersection of faith and civic engagement, posing challenging questions about whether political preferences are shaping morality rather than the other way around. 📌 What We Discuss ✔️ How idolatry in modern times is often just a few degrees off from traditional religious practices. ✔️ Why many Christians reject the Jesus of the Gospel in favor of political leaders and ideologies. ✔️ The dangers of replacing the God of Scripture with a God of personal or political making. ✔️ How politics has become a form of religion for many. ✔️ A deep dive into reactions to Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde’s sermon and what it reveals about faith in America today. ⏳ Episode Highlights [00:00:00] – Introduction: Corey welcomes listeners and introduces the big question: Have Christians forgotten the first commandment? [00:02:30] – The Meaning of Idolatry Today: It’s not about golden statues but about how religious practices can be slightly distorted—just a few degrees off—leading to misplaced worship. [00:05:45] – Rejecting the Jesus of the Gospel: Corey recounts the backlash against Bishop Budde for quoting Jesus and discusses how some Christians react negatively to Christ’s actual teachings when they challenge political views. [00:14:30] – Creating a God in Our Own Image: Are Christians shaping their beliefs to fit their politics, rather than aligning their politics with their faith? [00:18:10] – Trump, Religion, and the Fruit of the Spirit: Corey examines whether Trump’s actions and character align with Christian virtues, calling out the contradictions in how some Christians perceive him as a godly leader. [00:21:40] – Religious Symbols and Political Extremism: Corey discusses alarming juxtapositions, like crosses displayed next to gallows on January 6th, and the disturbing fusion of faith and nationalism. [00:26:45] – The Politics of Cruelty: Highlighting Pete Wehner’s critique of USAID cuts and how many self-proclaimed Christians align with leaders who embrace cruelty. [00:30:00] – Final Reflection: How do we participate in healing a broken world rather than contributing to its fractures? 💬 Featured Quotes 🗣️ “Idolatry isn’t necessarily about worshiping something completely different—it’s about replacing God with something that looks like God but is just a few degrees off.” 🗣️ “If you start with political affiliation and back everything else into that—including morality, truth, and even basic decency—you’ve made politics your god.” 🗣️ “The world is supposed to look at Christians and see Jesus. But too often, it sees something monstrous.” – John Pavlovitz 🔗 Resources Mentioned 📖 The Beautiful Mess by John Pavlovitz – Substack 📰 The Cruel Attack on USAID by Pete Wehner – The Atlantic 🎥 Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde’s Sermon – YouTube 📢 Call to Action If you found this conversation compelling, help us continue the discussion: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion Let’s keep talking about politics and religion— with curiosity, respect, and a commitment to truth. 🔗 Connect with Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s continue the conversation! 🚀…

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California’s Path to Independence? A Conversation about CalExit with Marcus Ruiz Evans 1:06:36

6 weeks ago1:06:36

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan engages in a timely and candid discussion with Marcus Ruiz Evans, the leader of the CalExit movement. Marc has been spearheading efforts to make California an independent nation for over a decade, publishing California’s Next Century 2.0 in 2012. With the California Secretary of State recently approving a petition to start collecting signatures for an independence initiative, this conversation is more relevant than ever. Marc provides historical context, legal perspectives, and the strategic steps required to potentially break away from the United States. 📌 What We Discuss ✔️ Why California is a donor state—giving more to the federal government than it receives in return. ✔️ The legal and historical precedents for secession and why Marc believes it’s possible. ✔️ The step-by-step process of the CalExit initiative and how Californians can participate. ✔️ How political polarization and federal neglect are fueling the movement. ✔️ What happens if California becomes independent—from military bases to tax changes. ⏳ Episode Highlights & Key Moments 🕒 [00:02:00] – Marcus shares his personal story and deep ties to California’s culture and identity. 🕒 [00:08:00] – Why California’s infrastructure and social programs are underfunded despite its economic power. 🕒 [00:12:00] – Historical precedents: California’s brief history as an independent nation and lessons from Scotland’s independence movement. 🕒 [00:22:00] – The federal government’s treatment of California, including disaster relief neglect. 🕒 [00:31:00] – The current CalExit initiative: How to sign the petition and what it aims to achieve. 🕒 [00:39:00] – Would Congress allow California to secede? The politics behind the decision. 🕒 [00:43:00] – What would independence look like? Tax benefits and regulatory changes for businesses. 🕒 [00:47:00] – The growing divide in America and why the U.S. is as politically polarized as it was after the Civil War. 💬 Featured Quotes 🗣️ “California has been a donor state for over 45 years. We give more than we get, and we’re funding infrastructure for states that are already better off than us.” – Marcus Ruiz Evans 🗣️ “When the president of the United States tells California ‘I don’t know if I want to help you’ while people’s homes are burning, that’s not how you treat fellow countrymen.” – Marcus Ruiz Evans 🗣️ “The federal government stopped publishing reports on which states are donor states right after Governor Schwarzenegger called out the unfair system.” – Marcus Ruiz Evans 🗣️ “The legal claim that secession is impossible is false—Texas v. White actually allows it with the consent of Congress.” – Marcus Ruiz Evans 📚 Resources & Links Mentioned 🔗 Sign the Petition & Learn More – CalExitNow.org 📖 California’s Next Century 2.0 by Marcus Ruiz Evans 📚 The Big Sort: Why the Clustering of Like-Minded America Is Tearing Us Apart by Bill Bishop 📺 Marcus Ruiz Evans on YouTube 📜 Texas v. White – The Supreme Court case discussing secession legality 📢 Call to Action ✅ If you support the initiative, sign the petition at CalExitNow.org ✅ Call your state legislators to request a Blue Ribbon Panel investigation into California’s independence. ✅ Follow us on YouTube – @PoliticsAndReligion ✅ Share this episode with fellow Californians and join the conversation. 🔗 Connect with Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Marcus Ruiz Evans Website YouTube Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com 🎧 Don’t Miss an Episode! 📢 Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite platform and leave a review to support the show. What do YOU think? Should California become independent? Let us know in the comments or on social media! 🚀🌎…

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The Homeless Conservative: Blake Fischer 1:15:08

6 weeks ago1:15:08

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Blake Fischer, the creator and host of The Homeless Conservative podcast. Blake describes himself as a constitutional conservative who feels politically "homeless" in today’s climate. They dive deep into politics, faith, and media, all while challenging ideological silos in an engaging and candid conversation. Blake shares his unique political journey, from growing up in Oklahoma and getting involved in politics at an early age to becoming a musician touring the country in a punk-rock band. His experiences shape his political perspective, emphasizing constitutional principles, independent thinking, and holding both sides accountable. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ Blake’s political awakening and how his family's involvement in local politics shaped his views. ✔️ What it means to be a constitutional conservative in today’s political landscape. ✔️ How his Christian faith informs his political views—and why he's critical of the evangelical right’s embrace of Trump. ✔️ His take on Trump 2.0—what worries him and what he’s optimistic about. ✔️ The role of media in shaping public perception and the dangers of political silos. ✔️ How to have meaningful political discussions without losing friends (or your mind!). ⏳ Episode Highlights & Key Moments: ⏱️ [01:30] – Meet Blake Fischer, host of The Homeless Conservative podcast. ⏱️ [03:00] – Blake’s early exposure to politics—from family involvement to local campaigns. ⏱️ [06:30] – The evolution of political media, from cable news to opinion journalism. ⏱️ [10:00] – What does it mean to be a constitutional conservative? Why Blake believes in limiting government power. ⏱️ [19:00] – Blake’s background as a musician, touring in a punk rock band. ⏱️ [25:00] – His Christian faith and how it intersects with his politics. ⏱️ [33:00] – Processing the 2024 election cycle, from Biden’s debate performance to Trump’s nomination of J.D. Vance. ⏱️ [41:00] – What concerns Blake the most about Trump’s second term? ⏱️ [50:00] – The role of big tech and Elon Musk in Trump’s presidency. ⏱️ [57:00] – How can we have better conversations across political and religious differences? 💬 Featured Quotes: 🗣️ Blake Fischer on the Constitution: "The Constitution is brilliant—not because it grants us rights, but because it recognizes that our rights exist beyond government authority." 🗣️ On the evangelical embrace of Trump: "It’s not that Trump can’t be president; it’s that we should stop pretending he’s something he’s not." 🗣️ On political discourse: "The biggest mistake people make in political conversations is assuming bad intent. Most people believe they’re advocating for something good." 📚 Resources & Mentions: 🔗 The Homeless Conservative Podcast – Blake Fischer’s podcast 🔗 Jonah Goldberg – Conservative columnist and author 🔗 Thomas Sowell – Economist and political thinker Call to Action If you enjoyed this conversation, please: ✅ Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite platform ✅ Leave a review to help spread the word ( https://ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ) ✅ Subscribe on YouTube for video content and short clips ( https://www.youtube.com/@politicsandreligion ) Follow Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Blake Fischer The Homeless Conservative Podcast The Homeless Conservative on Substack Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about politics, faith, and the future of American democracy. Tune in and join the conversation! 🎧🇺🇸…

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Jonathan Rauch: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy 1:30:00

7 weeks ago1:30:00

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In this episode, we welcome back Jonathan Rauch, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a contributing writer at The Atlantic . Jon joined us to discuss his new book, Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy . We dive deep into the intersection of faith, democracy, and civic engagement (that's our jam!), exploring how American Christianity has shifted in recent years and what that means for the future of our democracy. We also discuss the aftermath of the 2024 election, the rise of political tribalism, and the role of faith in shaping a more just and stable society. What We Discuss How Jonathan Rauch’s perspective on faith and democracy evolved over time (including what Jon refers to as the dumbest thing he ever wrote). Why he believes Christianity has played a crucial role in supporting democracy—and where it has gone wrong. The key differences between “thin Christianity” and “thick Christianity.” How the LDS Church offers a model for civic engagement based on negotiation and peacemaking. Why the loss of institutional trust is fueling political and social instability. The role of Braver Angels and other organizations in bridging political divides. Episode Highlights ⏳ [00:02:00] – Jonathan Rauch discusses his background, his past books, and his upcoming release, Cross Purposes . ⏳ [00:07:00] – Reflecting on the 2024 election and why it was surprisingly “ordinary” despite extreme circumstances. ⏳ [00:13:00] – How Trump’s second administration is reshaping democracy and institutions. ⏳ [00:22:00] – Rauch’s personal journey: From skepticism about religion to recognizing its role in democracy. ⏳ [00:35:00] – The rise of “thin Christianity” and how churches are struggling with political identity. ⏳ [00:44:00] – How the LDS Church provides an example of “thick Christianity” and civic engagement. ⏳ [00:57:00] – Rauch’s concerns about post-liberalism and authoritarian tendencies in American politics. ⏳ [01:10:00] – The importance of doubt, curiosity, and engaging across differences. ⏳ [01:17:00] – Final thoughts: How to be better citizens and people of faith in a pluralistic society. Featured Quotes 💬 “I believed, with some justification, that Christianity was bigoted and cruel and hypocritical to minorities like me. And I was wrong.” – Jonathan Rauch 💬 “Liberalism, properly understood, means that all human beings are created free and equal. And if we lose that, we lose everything.” – Jonathan Rauch 💬 “The LDS Church is one of the few religious institutions that has thought through a theology of civic engagement. And that’s something all Christians can learn from.” – Jonathan Rauch 💬 “Jesus’ message is radical and countercultural. The question is: Are we actually following it?” – Corey Nathan Resources Mentioned 📖 Cross Purposes: Christianity’s Broken Bargain with Democracy by Jonathan Rauch 📖 The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth by Jonathan Rauch 🌎 Braver Angels – Bridging the Political Divide Call to Action If you enjoyed this conversation, please: ✅ Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite platform ✅ Leave a review to help spread the word ( https://ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ) ✅ Subscribe on YouTube for video content and short clips ( https://www.youtube.com/@politicsandreligion ) Follow Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Jonathan Rauch jonathanrauch.com Bluesky Brookings Institution The Atlantic Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com This episode explores the deep intersections of faith, democracy, and civic responsibility. Whether you are religious or secular, left or right, these discussions are crucial to understanding where we are and where we’re headed as a country. 🔥 Listen now and join the conversation, but with gentleness and respect! 🔥…

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7 Tools for Engaging With "Them" 46:36

7 weeks ago46:36