37. Daisy Mackey - Don't make assumptions about people!

Wild Card - Whose Shoes?

Today I am speaking with Daisy Mackey, a young woman in the final stages of the prestigious NHS Graduate Management Trainee Scheme

Daisy will make a great leader in the NHS – watch this space!

I found Daisy’s story truly inspirational - I am thrilled to have the chance to share some of it with you today.

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• The power of connections! – thank you Lisa Rodrigues for connecting us.
• Some people with mental health conditions/ invisible disabilities have a choice as to when/ whether they reveal them – not those in a wheelchair! Unless you are online …
• Don’t make assumptions and judgements about what people with a disability can do
• How would YOU react if you discover that someone you thought you knew well through online conversations, is a wheelchair user?
• What would you learn about yourself, about them?
• Get to know the person, not just see the condition
• Let’s build on Rob Webster‘s campaign – bring your whole self to work
• Living with a disability gives a lot of transferable skills
• Combat the stigma!
• The NHS is not so accessible for disabled staff as it is for patients 😬
• We all need relatable role models and trailblazers – ‘people like me’
• The power of connections – bolder together
• You can’t possibly know everyone’s accessibility needs – you have to listen!
• People with learning disabilities have very different accessibility needs - and each person is different
• Experiential learning is key - grab the opportunities
• NHS Leadership programmes are important
• Allyship - stand up for your colleagues (and for anyone!) when you see inequalities
• Being a healthcare professional AND a patient is a very rich perspective
• Great to see the themes weaving between the various podcast episodes
• Daisy’s story is incredible. Professional ballet dancer to upcoming NHS leader!
• NHS innovative treatments can be truly life changing - eg dorsal root ganglion stimulation
• It is courageous to share personal stories
• Cascades and ripples! Whose Shoes would add to GMTS experiential learning
• Don’t let people put you in boxes!
• Talk about the difficult topics.
• Challenge perceptions.
• End taboo.

Some of the other podcast episode/guests referred to:
Episode 23: Angela Cornwall
Episode 33: Aishah Farooq
Episode 34: Rachel Crook

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Chapters

1. 37. Daisy Mackey - Don't make assumptions about people! (00:00:00)

2. How I met Daisy - thank you, Lisa Rodrigues! (00:00:50)

3. The choice (or not!) to reveal living with mental health or physical disability (00:02:11)

4. Assumptions and judgements about what people with a disability can do (00:03:45)

5. The pandemic – moving online - gave Daisy the CHOICE whether to reveal that she was a wheelchair user! (00:05:02)

6. Working with a disability in the NHS. Rob Webster‘s campaign – bring your whole self to work! (00:05:42)

7. Living with a disability gives a lot of transferable skills. Combat the stigma! (00:07:03)

8. Two placements - a mini case study on working in the NHS as a wheelchair user! (00:08:19)

9. Finding role models and trailblazers – ‘people like me’ (00:09:34)

10. The power of connections – bolder together! (00:10:19)

11. No-one can know everyone’s accessibility needs – you have to listen! (00:11:26)

12. People with learning disabilities have very different accessibility needs - and each person is different (00:11:45)

13. #FabObs Flo can help Daisy visit and learn more about a maternity unit! (00:14:23)

14. The NHS Graduate Training Scheme – a great opportunity to learn and promote integrated care (00:14:50)

15. “You can’t come in! You are in a wheelchair! Can’t you just stand up?” (00:15:20)

16. Allyship!! (00:16:10)

17. Experiential learning – Gill in scrubs! (00:17:20)

18. The very rich perspective of being a healthcare professional AND a patient (00:19:12)

19. Shoutouts to previous podcast guests – Rachel Crook and Angela Cornwall (00:19:21)

20. Daisy’s incredible story. Professional ballet dancer to upcoming NHS leader! (00:21:36)

21. Life changing treatment for Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (00:22:44)

22. Daisy grabbed a few A-levels, went to Cambridge, and on to the Grad scheme! (00:22:50)

23. Fantastic! The pain treatment meant that Daisy could work – and give something back! (00:26:27)

24. Lucky? Making your own luck! (00:28:00)

25. It is courageous to share personal stories (00:28:48)

26. Proud of my fabulous young podcast guests and friends!! Shoutout to Aishah Farooq, Zainab Garba-Sani and Fran Whitehead (00:29:29)

27. The Darzi Fellowship - another brilliant NHS leadership scheme (00:31:58)

28. Support from alumni and other trainees (00:33:46)

29. Will Amanda Pritchard listen to our podcast? (00:34:48)

30. Global influencers! People who understand through coproduction! (00:35:40)

31. Cascades and ripples! Whose Shoes could add to GMTS experiential learning? (00:36:26)

32. Don’t let people put you in boxes! (00:37:19)

33. Whose Shoes is simple. It ‘just’ brings people together. (00:38:24)

34. Talking about the difficult topics. Ending taboo. Challenging perceptions. (00:39:56)