39: "Carry On" - Pain, Trauma, and Processing
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*S15E20 SPOILERS BELOW*
In their overview of Supernatural’s finale, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their personal reactions and the many triggers embedded within the narrative.
Note: There are no audio clips in this episode of The Fangirl Business.
CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of abuse, childlessness, ableism, misogyny, queer erasure, suicide, & suicidal ideation.
IF YOU NEED SUPPORT:
- https://www.imalive.org/online/ (offers online chat)
- Text SHARE to the Crisis Text Line
- 741741 in the USA
- 686868 in Canada
- 85258 in the UK
- 50808 in Ireland
IF YOU WANT TO DONATE:
- The Castiel Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/fundraiser/3037563
- Dean Winchester Is Love: https://donate.nami.org/fundraiser/3040106
- The Sam Winchester Project: https://www.togetherwerise.org/fundraise/samwinchester
- The Jack Kline Project: https://charity.gofundme.com/o/en/campaign/random-acts-10-year-anniversary/MeganCrocker
- In honor of Eileen Leahy: https://www.nad.org/donate/
- The Eileen Leahy Fundraiser: https://www.mightycause.com/story/Ofvepf
- The Miracle Project: https://secure.aspca.org/team/the-miracle-project
- Gabriel’s Gift: https://fundraise.actionagainsthunger.org/fundraiser/gabrielsgift
- The Charlie Bradbury Project: https://www.classy.org/fundraiser/3042431
Additional Links:
- Here’s a Buzzfeed article about the finale that Chrisha and Catherine both found helpful: https://www.buzzfeed.com/deirdre-t/supernaturalas-legacy-the-trauma-of-silence-1b17yhc5ye?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharetwitter
- Two “fix-it” fics Chrisha and Catherine found helpful are:
- “Carry On” by Castielslostwings https://archiveofourown.org/works/27648386
- “Being and Having” by tricia_16 https://archiveofourown.org/works/27678379
PS: Catherine here. I say at one point that the CW is generally progressive. We recorded this before I realized just how much hurt the CW has inflicted to other audiences this year, including Riverdale and The 100. I have been so saddened and upset to learn all of this.
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Chapters
1. intro (00:00:00)
2. the day of the finale (00:11:25)
3. the PR campaign for the last 7 episodes (00:13:29)
4. the fallout from the episode airing an hour earlier in Canada (00:14:55)
5. the retrospective episode (00:17:57)
6. Chrisha and Catherine's reactions as the finale was airing (00:19:07)
7. the real time trauma response to Dean's death and the rest of the episode (00:30:04)
8. overview of episode trigger: found family erasure (00:42:23)
9. overview of episode trigger: ableism and the erasure of Eileen (00:44:31)
10. overview of episode trigger: childlessness and the focus on living on through children (00:45:13)
11. overview of episode trigger: misogyny and the erasure of, violence against, and silencing of women (00:45:53)
12. overview of episode trigger: abuse and John's presence in heaven (00:46:53)
13. overview of episode trigger: queer erasure of Cas and Dean (00:47:23)
14. overview of episode trigger: suicide and suicidal ideation regarding Dean's death (00:47:43)
15. the implications of Dean's death for his queerness (00:52:42)
16. Cas' absence from the finale (00:58:40)
17. "Carry On Wayward Son" discussion (01:03:29)
18. Chuck's "white male privilege" ending (01:06:03)
19. the wider reaction to the episode (01:08:54)
20. if you are hurting, you're not alone (01:13:45)
21. coping discussion (01:16:35)
22. outro (01:32:37)
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