John McCarroll and Kevin Diamond are booze industry paragons and total hunks. Follow their journey as they open rad wine, kick back, and learn valuable lessons about being true to their own appellations.
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We delve into the history of Camp Young Judaea with alumni from the beginning (1939) to modern day CYJ.
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Anthony and Fiona are wine-drinking, restaurant-going, industry types in Los Angeles who enjoy talking about fancy grape juice (wine) & whatever else tickles their fancy. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thatsommtalk/support
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CRUSH PAD TEASER: 20 Ppm so we can sleep at night ft James Erskine of Jauma Wines
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https://patreon.com/disgorgeous The instant we finished this interview i yelled at my girlfriend that James is like, the coolest winemaker on Earth. He's so fucking smart and the wines are incredible please seek them out and buy them wherever you are. Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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Episode 291: Rhône-in on the River 4: The Delta of Genius
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Solo boys episode to finish our Rhône season strong. It sucks to say it, but damn it's fun doing France again. Uh, this is probably one of those "important" episodes we'll reference a lot in the future because we accidentally spell out our entire wine philosophy. So, like, this is the best you're going to get about what we actually believe until we…
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Episode 290: Rhône-in' on the River 3: Put the South in Your Mouth ft. Todd Cavallo of Wild Arc Farm
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The boys are re-joined by Todd Cavallo from Wild Arc to do two things: hype up New York Natural Wine and figure out what Slow South of the Rhône Valley does exactly. There's some light Robert Parker Chatter, and then all of a sudden everyone goes full berserk dead-eyed nattie. We love to see it folks, sometimes it really just is that easy. Guys, dr…
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Episode 289: Rhône-in' on the River 2: The Northern Rhône Valley ft. Ryan Looper
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It really feels like we are describing a real mood on this ep with our spiritual dad, Ryan Looper. We accidentally just yapped and gossiped about the decaying corpse of the fine wine industry. I guess this is cathartic? The wines are notable for being incredibly good but I think something made us use icky descriptors for nearly all of them. This is…
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Episode 288: Rhône-in' on the River 1: The Headwaters of the Rhône
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James Sligh, AKA the Children's Atlas of Wine joins us for our first modern Rhône Episode to kick off and complicate our first French Season in, like, a million years by making us drink two Swiss wines. Sure, we all know about the Rhône Valley, but this damn river is the key to delicious wine all the way to the Mediterranean. This week, we focus on…
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Episode 287:Mr. Blindside Ft. Amanda Smeltz, Llewelyn Wine and Big Sturg
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When four incredibly powerful mouths get together, you know some crazy magic is gonna happen. Thank you Vine Wines for absolutely stumping and delighting us, do yourself a flavor and buy every single bottle of LLewlyn wines you can. Slide into his DMs. ////LIST//// *SPOILER ALERT!!!* Famille Vatan, Blanc de Noirs of Cabernet Franc, 2022// Domaine B…
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Episode 286: The Overton Winedow ft. Spinning Wheels Wine
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Peter, Perry and Alyssa of Spinning wheels wine rejoin John to talk about the wine Overton window, the collapse of consensus, air out sulfur disagreements, and discuss conspiracy theories. A great episode to Muscadine pill someone, and I know we all need that. Lord knows they are all on Instagram, bug them to sell you wine. //// LIST//// Claire Nau…
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Episode 285: The Many Saints of Iberia: Saint Jordi
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No guests, no hope, no filter: The boys finish the Portuguese season the way we always knew they would -- talking about Dragons, Democracy and the Damn Catalans. Kevin teases the next big season towards the end, but please get ready for SUMMER PROGRAMMING up next, which means delightfully weird episodes with a lot of your friends and enemies about …
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Patreon Preview: A Lunatic or Maybe onto Something ft. Eddie Chami
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Eddie Chami, perhaps the most visionary winemaker in the middle east right now graciously sat down for a phone interview with me instead of seeing his kid graduate. The power I fucking wield i swear to god. Everything from Altitude - Zionism gets covered here -- big topics all around but, Eddie is basically the best dude on Earth, even as his proje…
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Episode 284: The Many Saints of Iberia: Saint Vincent ft Max Eddy
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Saint Vincent is the patron saints of winemakers because he got squished and is the patron saint of Murcia and Lisboa and that's good enough for us to absolutely become earnest and weird. First time Max burned down the house holy shit. Go to Lords? ////LIST//// Humus, Palheto do Lisboa, 2021// Laboratotio Rupestre, Murcia Tinto, 'Ruina,' 2017// Ant…
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Episode 283: The Many Saints of Iberia: Mary, The GOAT, Ft. Cherry Iocovozzi
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Mary,,, you're one crazy chica.... Thank you Cherry Iocovozzi of Neng Jr.'s and vvvv soon Harmony, soon to be Asheville's destination for karaoke, natural wine and confessing. This episode is so close to actually discovering theology it's a miracle. Go to Asheville and discuss it ////LIST//// Forlong, Blanco 2019 Cadiz / Andalucia // Ramilo, Colare…
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Episode 282: The Many Saints of Iberia: St. James the Greater ft. Rafa Garcia Febles
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I can die happy. Rafa and Kevin said this episode made sense and that the whole *concept* is good. Damn I needed that. Please tell a friend, just something as simple as "I listen to a really parasocial wine podcast and I think you'd like it." Stuff like this is , to me, greater than all the wine in the world. If you tell a friend let us know and we…
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Episode 281: The Many Saints of Iberia: St. Elizabeth of Portugal ft. Mackenzie Gasset
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New guest / America's new favorite green point wine queen Mackenzie Gasset @_baby.cham_ came on to learn and teach about St. Elizabeth of Portugal, connections within the Iberian Peninsula, the Pope's latest goof-up, and, of course, victorian erotic novels. A true barnborner of an episode, I actually believe that this season will live forever. Go v…
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Patreon Preview: Domestic Terroirism ft. Patrick Cappiello
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Duck and Patrick chop it up over the future of American wine. No big deal, except, obviously, it's essential listening. Hear the whole thing Patreon.com/disgorgeous Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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Episode 280: The Many Saints of Iberia: Portugal the Land
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SOLO BAD BOYS EP: Welcome to our Portugal season about the cults of saints in Iberia, which I'm sure is exactly what you all wanted. This is explained in the episode, along with why it took us so long to do Portugal and, like, a general outline of how we feel going into this season. It's pretty spooky doing new stuff, but don't worry, we're sneakin…
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Patreon Preview: Chasing the Chalk with Michael Cruse of Ultramarine Wine Co
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Kettlebells, Shogun, Bbq, Polo Shirts and site-specific traditional method sparklers. You're god damn right it's a toxic boys episode on Patreon.com/disgorgeous Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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Episode 279: Sauv's The Day Pt 5: Stagiaire Blanc ft Brent Mayeaux
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Brent Mayeaux of Stagiaire wines came on to drink unicorns, talk Hamilton, and bemoan the fate of his truck. Buy his wines at https://www.stagiairewine.com/store. ////LIST//// Arquils, Sierra Foothills, Sauvignon Blanc, 2021// Pierre Beauger, Ardeche, 'Sb 16/20,' NV // Sonoma Mtn Winery, Sonoma Valley, Cabernet Sauvignon, 2009// Samuel Boulay, Arde…
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Episode 278: Sauv's the Day pt 4: Crouching Dog Hidden California Wine Season ft.Tira Johnson
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America's number 1 Phish fanatic Tira Johnson came on to talk shit about her least favorite varieties. Too bad the wines accidentally whipped, like they were criminally tasty, so I guess these grapes are good, actually??? Anyhow, this is the part of the season where we reveal that actually the whole point of this was to talk about California and ou…
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PATREON PREVIEW: Simon Woolf on Natural Wine, Fine Wine, and Getting Beyond France
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Full episode at patreon.com/disgorgeous :) Simon Woolf, of the https://themorningclaret.com/ came on to discuss "Fine Wine," "Natural Wine," "Commodity Wine," and Central Europe writ large. His work is probably some of the most interesting in the natural wine world today, and we're thrilled to have him on Support the show…
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Episode 277: Sauv's the Day pt 3: Grumpy Old Men ft James Sligh
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James aka Children's atlas of wine came on to discuss getting older, wine trends and transformations, the history of Napa, white wine's healing powers, and new hyperpop fixations. Please go to his classes ////LIST//// Girard, Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon, 1987// La Portte Saint Jean, VDF, Le Saut Mignon, 2021//// Support the show…
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Episode 276: Sauv's the Day Pt 2: Total Eclipse of a Cab ft Kenneth Crum
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The hero of upcoming Heroes NYC, Kenneth Crum came to discuss our turn towards right wing / red wine extremism, the upcoming eclipse, Napoleon and John's worrying chemical imputs. This is the second episode in a row we recorded on the couch and it's really addicting. Please go to Kenneth's new restaurant, Heroes NYC the instant it opens and also ma…
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Episode 275: Sauv's The Day Pt 1: From Couple to Throuple (ft. Amanda Smeltz)
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The bit is that our guest picks the wine for the episode this season. One cab sauv, one sauv blanc. This is not exactly what happened with our esteemed guest, Amanda Smeltz, the inventor of hot honey, but we had a really good time doing conpersion and loving without limits. Xoxoxoxo ////List//// Andreas Tscheppe, ‘Green Dragonfly Plus,’ 2021// Ceri…
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Episode 273: Austro-Thirsty Empire #8: Carpathia Dreamin' ft. Emily Gutiérrez
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It's the last main feed episode of Austro Thirsty Empire (WINE CLUB MEMBERS... YOU GET A SECRET EPISODE NEXT WEEK, and Patreons there's a few more interviews bopping around) so we thought we'd bring in the BIG guns: Welcome Emily Gutiérrez, possibly NYC's best Central and Eastern European sommelier to the pod. We're talking English Royalty, unveili…
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Episode 272: Austro-Thirsty Empire #7: Adriatic Panic in the Attic ft. James Sligh
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hey, It's Kevin. It's John's birthday and he's in Paris or Rome or something, so here I am, in charge of talking to you about this episode. What a good one! I love when James is on cause I know for a fact I'm the dumbest one in the room. For reference: We were sitting in a triangle shape, I was lounging on the couch and the boys were both at the ne…
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Episode 271: Austro-Thirsty Empire #6: Too Cold for Wine ft. Heather Barr and Emily La Bonte
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****THE DEADLINE FOR THE WINE CLUB IS FEBRUARY 29 PLEASE SECURE YOUR V. LIMITED SPOTS @ copakewineworks.com/disgorgeous******** It finally snowed in NYC and things got weird, but we finally got the Hudson Valley's best Sommelier and General Manager of Homespun Cafe, Heather Barr on to talk about the "cold" part of the Austro Hungarian Empire, Czech…
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Episode 270: Grapes of Wrath ft. Sari Khoury of Philokalia
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*** THE LAST DAY TO SIGN UP FOR DISGORGEOUS WINE CLUB IS FEB 29 PLEASE DO SO @ Copakewineworks.com/disgorgeous **** Hey all! This is what the bonus episodes on the Patreon are like, but there's no way we're gatekeeping this one. Sari Khoury is the winemaker behind the stellar Philokalia wines in the Occupied West Bank, and John was lucky enough to …
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Episode 269: Austro-Thirsty Empire #5: Piwi Mecca ft. Emily La Bonte and Ethan Risinger
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Kevin is on vacation so Big Sturge stepped up for a v fun chat with Ethan Risinger, King Country mouse about Piwi grapes in the Dolomites and Styria. Duck is literally terrified the entire time, so this is officially off the rails from the get go, but actually ends up getting, dare I say, poignant. Cutting edge wine from some of the best terroirs i…
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Episode 268: Austro-Thirsty Season #4: Ottoman Incursion Zone ft Sarah Favinger
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Sarah Favinger, bassist and wine buyer to the stars joins the boys to discuss the white hot border between Ottoman civility and Hapsburg barbarity. To be incredibly honest, this is probably the most insane we've sounded in years -- sorry Sarah! Hard to overstate how good all these wines were --wines to treasure rather than slam down while doing big…
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Episode 267: Austro-Thirsty Season #3: (Van Halen Voice) Pannonia ft Brittany Myrick
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This is a message from the future. If you don't join the Disgorgeous wine club at Copake Wine Works dot com the robots will win. I can't explain it right now, but you need to trust me Trust the plan where we go one we go all. Brittany Myrick came on this episode and basically burned down the studio by being so fucking cool. Don't crucify your kids,…
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Episode 266: Austro-Thirsty Season #2: Volcano City ft. Daryl Nuhn
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Daryl Nuhn, proprietress of Prima and also recent knitting maven, joins the boys to pronounce some truly batshit words like a champion, and also to discuss volcanic wines from the countryside around Budapest. Duck's mental health crisis takes a downward turn, Kevin just keeps swimming, and the wines all truly, deeply, madly go OFF. I know this is g…
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Episode 265: Austro-Thirsty Empire #1: An Imaginary Land of Contrasts
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This is the biggest season we've ever done, and we're really giving it the gravitas it deserves. Sorry for all the Hapsburgs stans, but those weirdos are getting ethered all praise due to Hot Ottoman Crush Suleiman the Magnificent. This episode features three wines from Hapsburg crown lands (lmao borders aren't real) and basically traces how insane…
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Episode 264: The English Patience (ft Christy Frank)
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GOAT Guest Christy Frank brought us English wine because people keep DMing Duck and wouldn't you know it? They are all bangers (Not in the English sense [they aren't sausage!] but in the American way, where it means they SLAYYYYYyy). I guess if you are going to England for some reason, bring some of these back? Go to Copake Wine Works for all your …
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End of the year Shenanigans by the boys. We love you, thanks for a great 2023. Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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Episode 262: The one where Free Palestine (ft Jason Bajalia of Terra Sancta)
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🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉Jason Bajalia of Terra Sancta came to talk about Palestinian wine, hope, occupation, types of alligators and to make duck cry. Please bother your representatives and make them know how much you don’t want to pay for this genocide and donate to the Palestinian children’s relief fund. ////LIST//// Cremisan, Bethlehem, Palestine, ‘Hamdani Jandani…
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Episode 261: Hiyu on life ft. Nate Ready and Jenny Eagleton
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The gandalf of grapes and the wizard of snacking join John to discuss breaking the rules, going "off the grid," and the poetics of farming. Kevin was turning 40, that's why he wasn't there. Hire Jenny for a job, and drink Nate's wines. ////LIST//// Chateau Massereau, Bordeaux Superior, 'Cuvee K,' 2012// Domaine du Pech, 'la Badinerie du Pech,' 2011…
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This might be the best patreon episode yet. Patreon.com/disgorgeous for the whole version and to hear 3 rounds of "name that bird" Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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Episode 260: Season Noir: Sliding Doors: What if Burgundy Never Existed? Part Seven: Teenage Pinot Color Mutations
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Episode 259: Season Noir: Sliding Doors: What if Burgundy Never Existed? Part Six: Step Brothers (ft. Ethan Risinger and Cherry Iocovozzi)
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It's a bad boy episode with a southern flare. Expect plenty of yuma squeaks, southern accents, and pinot sacrilege. But what if Pinot was always meant to play with Gamay? And what if the the true field blend was.... the friends we made along the way? ////LIST//// Domaine Tessier, Cheverny Rosé, 2022// Herve Villemade, Cheverny, 2022 // Domaine La B…
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Episode 258: Season Noir: Sliding Doors: What if Burgundy Never Existed? Part Five: An American Tale: Pinot Goes West (ft Justine Belle)
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Justine is here to taste with us through the Americas. Don't you dare call it the new world. But why is Pinot here? Does it belong here? Is Marquette a better grape? Is John the wine world's answer to Brittany Spears? Gabe I know you want a list of what wines we drink but this is Kevin's season and he's too lazy to type out all those words. Just te…
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Episode 257: Season Noir: Sliding Doors: What if Burgundy Never Existed? Part Four: The Pinot of Oz (ft. Christy Frank)
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Christy came on, and Kevin forgot to write notes, so John is GRACEFULLY doing so. ////LIST//// Ngeringa, Adelaide Hills Pinot Noir, 'Barker Summit,' 2019// Kunoh, Nelson Pinot Noir, 'Casablanca,' 2020// Les Fruits, Adelaide Hills Pinot Noir, 'Atmospheres,' 2019 //// Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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PREVIEW: CRUSH PAD Episode 75: Vegan Wine Critic ft. Alicia Kennedy
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Alicia Kennedy is, frankly, a must follow and must read for anyone who believes in food and drink. Sorry, not sorry, she is a guiding light right now and her book No Meat Required is STAGGERINGLY good. She came on the pod to discuss bivalves, the socialism of nice things, wine, vegetarianism and what people think food books need to be. Truly incred…
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Episode 256: Roberto, Roberto! We Return to Chile with Roberto Henriquez
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The man, the myth, the legend. We are so pleased to have one of our favorite winemakers, Roberto Henriquez, sit down with us for an hour and talk about Chile, French people in Chile, Pais, and more. It should be known that Roberto gave Yuma so many pets and she really appreciated it. Our season on Pinot Noir will continue next week! ////LIST//// L.…
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Episode 255: Season Noir: Sliding Doors: What if Burgundy Never Existed? Part Three: She's Leaving Home (ft. Libby Winters)
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Pinot leaves France and voyages out into the rest of the EU to find herself. But can she ever really escape her past? Libby is wicked smart, and a good at singing. We start with some musical theatre chat so you know this episode is gonna be a banger, like a classic Stanley Kubrick movie, you'll be at the edge of your seat. Something about birds. //…
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Episode 254: Season Noir: Sliding Doors: What if Burgundy Never Existed? Part Two: They French Pinots, Don't They? (w/ Miguel)
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Kevin again. Here we are, in a very special Kevin season, and John is too busy getting drunk in Montreal to write anything here. An Auvergne, a Jura, and an Alsatian walk into a pinot.... you won't believe what happens next. ////LIST//// Vincent and Marie Tricot, VDF, '3 bonhommes,' 2022// Benedicte and Stephane Tissot, Cotes du Jura, 'Pinot Noir S…
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CRUSH PAD TEASER: Episode 73: Drinking Not to Drink: An Interview with Dr. Edward Slingerland
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Dr. Edward Slingerland, author of Drunk: How We Sipped, Danced, and Stumbled our Way to Civilization explains, rather patiently, how drinking is, actually, good and makes the case for slightly restrained hedonism. His book, which is out now and purchasable, is almost certainly required reading for anyone working or thinking about booze, especially …
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Episode 253: Season Noir: Sliding Doors: What if Burgundy Never Existed? Part One: Munx and his Punx
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The idea of this season is what if Burgundy never existed. Kevin eats half an edible and explains the concept to John. The boys messed up the recording of this one so the first 15 minutes sound kinda weird sorry. This is Kevin. They drank a Berthout-Gerbet Fixin. This season is going to be so, so good. ////LIST//// Berthout-Gerbet, Fixin, 2020 ////…
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Episode 252: Rose: The Gift of the Mediterranean! Part SIX: True West (ft. Rafa Garcia Febles)
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Episode 251: Rose: The Gift of the Mediterranean! Part Five: Adventure On The Wine Route: The Squeakuel (ft. Amanda Smeltz)
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L’angelore, Tavel, 2016// Romain Le Bars, Tavel, 2021// Close Cibonne, Cotes de Provence, ‘Tradition,’ 2010// Domane Tempier, Bandol, Rose 2020// Pierre Micheland / Domaine de la Réaltière, Coteaux D’Aix en Provence, ‘Pastel,’ 2022 //// Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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Episode 250: Rose: The Gift of the Mediterranean! Part Four: Island Boys (ft. Kenneth Crum)
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Abbatucci, VDF, 'Valle di Nero,’ 2020// Giovanni Montisci, Mamoiada, ‘Barrosu,’ 2021// Cantina Sannas, Mamoida, ‘Maria Pittina,’ NV/ Sergio Drago, Terre Siciliane, ‘Rosso,’ 2021// Giuseppe Cipolla / Passofonduto, ‘Occhio di Sale,’ 2022//// Support the showBy Disgorgeous
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Episode 249: Rose: The Gift of the Mediterranean! Part Three: Girl Dinner D'Abruzzo (ft Tira Johnson)
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Tira Johnson returns to talk about the Adriatic Sea, pink wine, octopuses, and that space where the ocean meets the sky <3. Truly, my heart aches with how good these wines are, I know this is a comedy podcast, but literally every single one made me want to punch a hole in the table. This mediterranean rosé thing is literally the best idea we've had…
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