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A show about what is happening around us, or things we find fascinating at the moment. We may discuss politics, or possibly a quack doctor who implanted goat testicles in people, promising a cure for everything. Topics can be current, or historical, and often one thing leads to another.
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A podcast about people, mostly, who find themselves in situations in which help is not on the way, or maybe help is on the way, but not all that helpful. Either way, the victims will have to save themselves...or not.
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The Vegetable Beet

Great Lakes Vegetable Producers Network

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A live weekly interview and discussion focused on vegetable production challenges and opportunities brought to you by the Great Lakes Vegetable Producers Network. We grow more together. JOIN US LIVE! We will be broadcasting live via Zoom at 12:30 ET/11:30 CT every Wednesday from the first week of March to the first week of September. Login at www.glveg.net/listen.
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Mark and Kevin have been busy, because of kids, but finally get back to recording another episode. This one starts with a rant about gift cars, and why they are "the worst". Things quickly spiral, as it often does with these two. The episode covers: Gift cards Corporate takeover of everything The loss of expertise in retail Tucker Carlson in Russia…
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The Israel-Hamas conflict has begun, and countless lives lost. Mark and Kevin discuss it a bit, before segueing into the inability of politicians to compromise, and the consequences for everyone else. Taylor Swift has movie, and Mark doesn't get it. Kevin can't help, as he doesn't get it either. There's a bit about societal norms, why suspenders ar…
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Mark and Kevin discuss the latest drama in Wisconsin, Lauren Boebert's latest incident, rich businessmen who hate their employees and want them to stop feeling empowered, Boss Tweed, some logical fallacies, Donald trump (of course), and a few other items. Wisconsin Supreme Court candidates often speak out on hot topics. Only one faces impeachment t…
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The news cycle never ceases to amaze Mark and Kevin. In this episode it's the billionaire who wants to live forever, otters attacking surfers, rich people's dogs, Threads, and Zuckerber vs Musk, in the battle of two evil billionaires, and Taylor Swift. This billionaire wants to live forever Gunfight at the O.K. Corral Deionized water Zuckerberg Vs.…
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In 1859, in San Francisco, Joshua Abraham Norton, declared himself "Emperor of the United States", and eventually "Protector of Mexico". $1.6 million in rare photographs disappear. An owner of one of the oldest photographic galleries in the country is accused of defrauding artists, collectors, and friends in the case. Emperor Norton Pulitzer Prize-…
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A submarine imploded, Biden was blamed for a slow response, and obviously Trump, would have found it faster...probably by himself. The Supreme Court went crazy recently. Some people tie their self-worth to their favorite professional sports team, which Mark and Kevin find odd. The political organization, Moms for Liberty quoted Hitler in a recent n…
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Kevin spent the day of the podcast fixing things, whether broken or not, so that's how the episode starts. Mark has an encounter with a climate change denier who almost utters the words "global warming", but then catches himself in the nick of time. Unfortunately science has become a team sport, with political allegiance taking priority. New cars a…
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John R. Brinkley dreamed of being a doctor. Unfortunately he couldn't achieve that goal. He could however say he was one, and became known for implanting goat gonads into patients. Brinkley was on the forefront of quack medicine, disinformation, and conspiracy theory radio. Forrest Fenn, a wealthy art collector, decided to create a treasure hunt to…
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Major League Baseball is changing the rules. Mainly, because it kind of sucks. Pesäpallo, the national sport of Finland is kind of like baseball, but different, and cricket is confusing. Golf is even more boring than baseball. English food is pretty awful, but at least you can get any other kind of food while you're there. Some "sports" are really …
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In 2001, The Free State Project was founded with the intention of recruiting Libertarians to New Hampshire, in an attempt to create a sort of Libertarian utopia. Not too surprisingly, things didn't exactly go as planned. Salomon August Andrée was a Swedish engineer, physicist, aeronaut, and polar explorer lead an attempt to reach the North Pole by …
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SpaceX employees feels more calm with Musk focused on Twitter. Elon is like the man behind the curtain, desperately pulling levers. Attention seekers: Musk, MTG, George Santos, Andrew Tate, and others. Elon Musk is focused on Twitter, and his SpaceX employees feel a weight lifted off their shoulders with no Musk breathing down their necks. He and s…
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The most devastating wildfire in U.S. history was not in the western states, or even a recent event. Instead it was in Wisconsin, on October 8th, 1871. The fire burned around 1.5 million acres, and claimed more than 1,500 lives. In the 1990s, a new genre of music emerged, know as Norwegian black metal. Some of the most influential members of extrem…
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Mark and Kevin were obviously hungry and immediately began the show with a discussion of taco trucks, and food trucks in general. Kevin recalls the time when GOP strategist promised food trucks on every corner. Sadly, that never happened. Somehow the conversation morphs into a conspiracy theory about "Big Hamburger" convincing us to not like salads…
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Jimmy Hoffa, former president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters - a powerful union with ties to organized crime, disappears in 1975. Hoffa is eventually declared dead in 1982, though his body has never been found despite years of investigations, rumors, and leads. Brothers, Homer and Langley Collyer, became infamous for their hoarding a…
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This is the billionaire take-down episode. Elon Musk is always in the news, as is his intention. It's hard not to talk about him and his purchase of Twitter. New things come out everyday, and Mark and Kevin talk about those things once again. There's also Sam Bankman-Fried, Elizabeth Holmes, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos, who thinks philanthropy …
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Mark and Kevin can't stop talking about Elon Musk. Now he's bought Twitter and now works 120 hours per week. Things don't seem to be going great at Twitter. Kyrie Irving gets in trouble and seems to double down. Billionaires can make their own reality, at least in the eyes of their supporters. Full self driving cars aren't happening anytime soon. T…
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Mark and Kevin discuss former British Prime Minister Liz Truss, dumb movies, Alex Jones and his billion dollar penalty, the origin of sin (according to the bible), Catholic night school (or is it Catholic Knight School?), and silly religious movies. There's also some Nickelback, Sharknado, SNL, and more.…
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In this episode, Rue Genger interviews Kevin Anderson and Annelie Livingston-Anderson to learn about the reduced tillage systems they use to produce vegetables and flowers at Good Turn Farm, in Pepin County Wisconsin. Kevin and Annelie share their favorite low-tillage production systems, benefits they’ve seen for soil health, and advice for growers…
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In 857 A.D., in the Rhine Valley, an outbreak of a disease causing hallucinations, gangrene, and death occurred. Because the symptoms included a severe burning sensation, and it was believed to be a punishment from God, it came to be known as Holy Fire. Though a doctor in 1670 figured out the cause, outbreaks would occur for another 170 years befor…
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With Hurricane Ian in the news, the episode starts with natural disasters. As is typical, the rest of the show is a stream of consciousness discussion of bad movie pitches, fancy restaurants, Red Lobster and seafood, lab grown meat, Maya Rudolph, Cracker Barrel, The Great Outdoors, 80s camp movies, Airplane II, Henry Winkler, Van Morrison and all t…
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In this episode, Rue Genger and Liz Dwyer of Dancing the Land, Clearwater Minnesota, mix philosophy and practicality into their conversation about farming, food, and caring for the land. Liz describes the evolution of the several different reduced tillage systems that she and her partner Curtis use on their land, how their livestock are integrated …
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Kevin's furnace broke and getting it fixed was a minor miracle. Getting it replaced would have been a major miracle. Also, he's old now, and messed up his back. Mark brings up Covid deaths and comorbidities, followed by gunshot wounds, and abrupt endings to things, such as life. Things get dark for a bit. They also discuss Carrie Fisher and Star Wa…
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The episode somehow starts off with the Fast & Furious series, moves on to really baggy pants, former skateboarder Heath Kirchart, amazingly evil Orca whales, Elon Musk (of course), the Queen and the Royal Family, Ronald Reagan, and September 11th. Mark and Kevin start with a rant about the Fast & Furious and really baggy pants, but move on the the…
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Deep compost mulch systems are gaining popularity among vegetable growers who want to reduce tillage. In this episode, Rue Genger interviews Jimmy Bauman about the deep compost mulch systems used at Farm Farm in Princeton Minnesota. Jimmy describes the path he and his partner Heather have taken to reduce tillage, build soil organic matter, and refi…
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In this episode, Natalie interviewed Meg McGrath, a plant pathologist from Cornell, and Jim Jasinski, IPM coordinator at Ohio State University, about using biofumigation to manage soilborne diseases. We discuss how it works and tips for growers who want to try it on their farms.By Great Lakes Vegetable Producers Network
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Mark and Kevin discuss absolutism in just about everything, from gun rights, to sunburns at the Jersey Shore (Whitefish Beach), extreme sports, and the predictable outcome (death). There's also some reminiscing about how the past was better in extreme sports, and how the genre has "jumped the shark". There's also the required discussion of Elon Mus…
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In 1980, while Texaco was drilling in Lake Peigneur, a sinkhole opened up and drained the lake, swallowing the drilling platform, and several boats and barges in the process. The 10 foot deep lake was popular for fishing, and was the backdrop for a botanical garden. On November 20th, approximately 2.5 billion gallons of water drained from the lake,…
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In this episode we talk to Anna Testen and Bob Philbrun, from Ohio, about a method for directly competing with and destroying soil diseases by encouraging a special group of microbiology, called anaerobes. Like day shift and a night shift clocking in and out, the anaerobes rule with oxygen is removed from the soil, leaving behind a tilthy planting …
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Rich people are moving to Montana and ruining things. Montana is flooding, while the rest of the country has historic heat. Meanwhile, Larry Ellison has bought a Hawaiian Island, and ruins it for all the locals. The rich try to turn every nice place into a gated community for themselves. Don't settle for mediocre cuisine. We can now get good Indian…
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Mark and Kevin react to the characters in the news today. The attention seekers known as Elon Musk, Marjorie Taylor Green, and Tucker Carlson receive the bulk of their ire. Elon wants (maybe) to buy Twitter, Marjorie Taylor Greene is sued, and Tucker Carlson believes men are wimpy and should tan their balls.…
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In 1985, Eastern Airlines Flight 980, crashed at 21,000 feet, on route to La Paz, Bolivia. Decades of searches turned up little, sparking a variety of conspiracy theories. Was it a disaster due to weather, a high altitude airport, a lack of experience, language barriers, and a lack of proper navigational equipment, or something more nefarious. In 2…
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This episode was originally supposed to be episode 13, but we had some serious technical issues recording the previous two, so this one is now number 11. Is this the end of season 1, the beginning of season two, or just another episode? We don't really know. In this episode we talk about Rorschach tests, Atlas Shrugged, Afghanistan, woolly aphids, …
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How do we build organic matter on farms without over-fertilizing our soils? And what are realistic goals for increasing organic matter? In this episode, Natalie Hoidal interviews Dr. Nic Jelinski, a soil scientist at the University of Minnesota. They talk about soil formation, how organic matter accumulates in soil, broadening our metrics for soil …
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Across the Great Lakes region, we see vegetable farms with very high levels of soil phosphorus. In this episode, Natalie Hoidal interviews four ecologists who study nutrient leaching in freshwater ecosystems to understand how much it matters for vegetable farms to have high phosphorus levels in their soils, and what we can do about it.…
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High tunnel crops often look great for the first few years, but as tunnel soils begin to build up salts and alkalinity, we begin to see plant health problems around years 3-5. In this episode, Natalie Hoidal interviews Dr. Elsa Sanchez and Thomas Ford from Penn State about trends they've seen in high tunnel soils, and strategies for dealing with co…
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In this special mid-winter offering, three university researchers agreed to be interviewed and recorded for this live and in-person show. They were Marty Chilvers, specializing corn and bean diseases; James Dedecker, specializing wildlife management; and Zsofia Szendrei, specializing in insect pests of vegetables. This show is brought to you by Far…
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In this special mid-winter offering, three operations agreed to be interviewed and recorded for this live and in-person show. They were Blake Farms (Armada, MI), specializing in fruits, vegetables, and agritainment; Hoopers Farm Garden (Traverse City, MI), specializing in cut flowers for events; and Will Forage for Food (Grass Lake, MI), specializi…
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Warning: this episode covers cults. Cults often were bad, and the content can be upsetting. This material may not be appropriate for children. After a long break due to Covid, travel, and technical difficulties, Mark and Kevin return with an episode that covers cults, and a couple of entertaining stories of nautical failures. The episode starts wit…
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Listen to a broccoli dream team discuss disease management, markets, varieties, insect control and more! Natalie Hoidal interviews Dr. Bhabesh Dutta of Georgia, Thomas Bjorkman of Cornell and Susan Scheufele of Massachusetts, a team tackling broccoli production east of the Mississippi. Learn more about their multi-state work on developing varieties…
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Caw, Caw, phwump, chk chk boom, arrgghhhh! It doesn't take long in farming to start to sympathize with Elmer Fudd, as it seems mammals are always one wing flap/paw/hoofprint ahead of the limited tools we have. Listen as we chat with James DeDecker about vertebrate pest management (P.S. sounds at the beginning were, in order, bird distress call "squ…
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This week's show is all about getting set for the 4th growing season; winter! Planting dates are crucial for winter greens to yield during and through the Persephone period when we have fewer than 10 hours of light a day. When to heat? What kinds of insulation options are available? Lewis Jett is here to talk about preparing hoophouses for and tend…
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With pumpkins starting to color up, do you already have pumpkin spiced lattes on your minds? Next week the Vegetable Beet will be gnawing on the important pumpkin questions. Join Ben Werling of MSU Extension as he talks to the pumpkin duo, Nathan Johanning of University of Illinois Extension and Brad Bergeford of the Ohio State University Extension…
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Bok choy, fava greens, daikon, oh my! This week, University of Kentucky Extension Agent, Bethany Pratt, and Common Earth Gardens Executive Director, Laura Stevens, and Agricultural Consultant Stephen Bartlett join the podcast to talk about the production of Asian greens and other culturally appropriate crops, working with refugee populations, and t…
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Hold onto your oomycetes, folks! This week Mary Hausbeck joins us from Michigan State University to talk about a group of pathogens called oomycetes, also known as water molds. These include downy mildews on foliage, and the complex of Phytophthora, and Pythium rots on roots and fruits. What makes them different and more challenging than regular ol…
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CMV, INSV, TSWV, SqMV, WTF? Viruses are a confounding complex of pathogens of our vegetable crops that can hide in overhead ornamentals in greenhouses and non-crop weeds in fields. How can you prevent them from infecting plants, identify if plants are infected, or manage plants after infection? Brett Arenz, from the University of Minnesota, and Jan…
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Join us this week for the Garlic Guru of Ontario, Travis Cranmer. Garlic is one of those polarizing crops that people love or hate. But, those who like to eat it, tend to really love it. And those who grow it, really love to grow it. Planting in fall, harvested in summer. How strange!? What should you know about seed quality and sourcing, and what …
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Jean-Paul Marat was a French political theorist, physician and scientist, and, during the French Revolution, a journalist and politician. Initially an advocate of basic human rights for the poor, he became increasingly uncompromising in his stance against the new leaders of the revolution. He was assassinated by Charlotte Corday while taking a medi…
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