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Two Friends Talking About Things (2FTAT [TOOF-tat] for short) is a recorded series of conversations between long-time friends Jason Lengstorf (bit.ly/1LtjG8Z) and Nate Green (bit.ly/1CWAAtK). For Nate and Jason, personal growth and development has always been a primary focus. And deep, brutally honest conversations about their successes, failures, challenges, and fears have played a critical role in that personal development. But it’s a little unusual for grown men to have best friends. And ...
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Meta-Work: How Do We Know We’re Making the Right Choices?
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Nate and Jason are back in Portland, which means we no longer have excuses not to record new episodes! ?How do people make choices? What mental models, frameworks, and other factors go into making those choices. And more importantly, _where the hell do those mental models come from_?In this episode, Nate and Jason talk about how they built their ow…
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Give Yourself The Opportunity To Continue — Tactics and Strategies For a Resilient Life and Career
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When the shit hits the fan and your back’s against the wall and you’ve run out of other dramatic cliches, what habits, mindsets, and material things do you need to have in your life to continue on your path and be successful?That’s what this episode is all about.Although we go on our normal huge philosophical rants, this episode of 2FTAT is extreme…
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According to Derek Sivers, you should be optimizing your life for one thing — but that one thing is a different thing for each person.In this conversation, Nate and Jason discuss what they’re currently optimizing for, what they’ve optimized for in the past, and how those decisions have evolved over time.Additional topics (tangents?) include:- givin…
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How do the ways we describe ourselves influence our behavior?In this conversation, Nate and Jason discuss the effects of changing our minds, how the labels we choose for ourselves can hijack our behavior, and whether or not a five-year plan can work.Referenced in this podcast:Nate's (young and naïve article about) 4 foods he'll never eat again: htt…
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Tony is just about ready to close his business and start working at Starbucks.After ten years in the fitness industry, he feels like he’s lost the spark, and he’s not sure what he should do next — he just knows that what he’s doing right now isn’t making him happy.In this conversation, Nate Green and Jason Lengstorf talk with Tony about what we can…
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Lindsay always thought she’d eventually know what she wanted to be when she grew up.But after changing majors, grad school, getting married, and working in a job for three and a half years, she’s still not quite sure what “grown up” means, or what she wants to be — and the fact that she just got laid off is making that question a little more pressi…
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Adam Is Successful...but He's Not Happy
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Adam’s daughter thinks he sleeps at his office.On paper, he’s got it made: multiple degrees from prestigious schools, an enviable career, and a comfortable salary. He’s got a wife, two daughters, a nice house in a good neighborhood — this dude’s life seems pretty charmed.But Adam’s not happy. Long hours and no work-life balance — Adam calls it more…
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What's Different About Successful People?
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Why do some people find success while other people — people who actually did better in school or had more opportunities — struggle to get by?Nate and Jason talk about honesty, calculated risks, betting on yourself, and showing up to the right places — and how that's led to their success in business and in life.0:00 — Nate explains why this episode …
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Nate's recent 10-day silent meditation retreat at the Northwest Vipassana Institute (bit.ly/1Mj4PNE) is the topic.3:20 — "It reminded me of a very low-level mushroom trip." – Nate3:50 — Waking up by Sam Harris: amzn.to/1Mfihlw4:25 — Joe Rogan's bit about the end of civilization: bit.ly/1RISgQ98:50 — "I didn't feel like I was a part of a cult, but I…
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Why Bother Meditating? (Being Alone, pt. 2)
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What "alone time" really means, and why it's important.4:48 — "I feel like everything I've ever learned about myself has come in the space where I didn't have outside stimulus." – Jason12:30 — Why limiting technology is essential to getting the most of your alone time19:50 — "I think the meditation thing, and I guess being alone, has allowed me to …
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Emotional Minimalism (Being Alone, pt. 3)
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How understanding your emotions is basically a superpower.2:27 — "I was the perfect example of the kid who had no problems and therefore needed to invent a lot of problems." – Jason3:00 — Jason explains how a psychedelic mushroom trip helped him look at his life from a different perspective6:50 — "You're not someone that's just having experiences, …
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On the importance of ditching unnecessary possessions.1:20 — Fight Club: imdb.to/1fXToii (movie), amzn.to/1DAsktg (the book by Chuck Palahniuk)3:10 — Missoula, MT (bit.ly/1MCUV7n) and Whitefish, MT (bit.ly/1fXUsTn)4:00 — Nate talks about the process of deciding what to do with his physical possessions as he prepares to leave Portland and travel for…
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There are good and bad ways to handle disagreements. Nate and Jason discuss what's worked for them — and what hasn't.4:40 — Science confirms the thing Jason thinks he's referencing: bit.ly/1NUi19Y6:45 — Dane Cook's jelly fight bit: bit.ly/1HSdnLm9:30 — Nate explains how you know you're in a good relationship10:20 — Nate's wild hand gestures are app…
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Alone Time & Independence (Relationships, pt. 2)
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Why independence is crucial in relationships, and how Nate and his partner, Chelle, brought back independence in their relationship. Plus, how Jason is managing independence in his fairly new relationship with Marisa.3:30 — Chelle touches an elephant: bit.ly/1fuowpx10:10 — Skyline Restaurant in Portland: bit.ly/1IPievF…
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Openness & Honesty (Relationships, pt. 3)
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On being honest with yourself and loved ones, and how being vulnerable may just be the strongest thing you can do.3:13 — “Your baller phase got me through my starving musician phase.” – Jason9:09 — “I really think that vulnerability is the new strength.” – Nate9:20 — The Facebook feed life: bit.ly/1HSDnEw14:49 — “She shouldn't be my emotional spong…
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The Honeymoon Phase (Relationships, pt. 4)
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How to extend the “honeymoon phase” of a relationship with encouragement, honesty, and a healthy dose of silliness and play.3:45 — “She just lets me be me and she pushes me to become a better version of myself, and I do the same for her.” – Nate6:58 — “You keep evolving. So if the two of you are changing, if the two of you are still having new expe…
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What's okay to compromise on in a relationship? And where do you draw the line between making someone happy and changing who you are for someone else?2:10 — Jason contemplates a daunting theoretical choice: his girlfriend or his beard.7:05 — The complete Ralph Waldo Emerson quote: bit.ly/1GcjqTC13:10 — The Princess Bride: imdb.to/1HSDUX425:42 — “I'…
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Best Friends (What We're Talking About, pt. 1)
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Is it weird to have a best friend as a full-grown man? Nate and Jason talk about nearly 20 years of friendship, and how their relationship has helped make them both into better people.1:50 — Mortal Kombat for Sega Genesis: bit.ly/1K4O8Gi3:07 — “I really didn't like you the first time that we met. I think the first year or so I just, like, put up wi…
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Deep Conversations (What We're Talking About, pt. 2)
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Deep conversations can change the way we see the world — and the way we see ourselves. Nate and Jason talk about the impact deep conversations have had on their lives, and how those conversations became the reason to create this podcast.1:00 — PN = Precision Nutrition: www.precisionnutrition.com1:40 — “It's a matter of asking questions and sharing …
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