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Welcome to the Change Conversations Podcast, where we help individuals to reignite the spark to look at their lives and careers with a different lens. Our interactions interrogate different individuals of all backgrounds who seek to be equipped for change in their careers and personal growth. Each week's episode brings new insights and shares practical tips to equip and empower individuals as they make their change decisions.
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Real Job Talk

Liz Bronson & Kathleen Nelson Troyer

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Seasoned HR and recruiting consultants Liz and Kat help you navigate your career and get through your work day. Go beyond the employee manual for some real job talk!
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We have a letter! A listener asks us what they should do if everything is just good. They’re restless: work is good, they make good money, have work/life balance, but they're wondering if this is it. Our listener’s name is “Restless” and we explore how they should approach this mid-career moment. First - everything is relative. The grass can be gre…
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We’re talking from experience about red flags, especially in the job search process, where your gut fits into decision making and how to listen for those flags. Kat tells her story from 20 years ago about her first HR Leadership role where she joined a company working for a husband and wife team. The offer was lower than her comfort zone with a bon…
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We have a letter! One of our listeners wrote to us with a question. They are stuck with what to do with their golden hancuffs. Their current employer was acquired by a larger company. The company wants them to stay, and has given them a year-long series of bonuses and severance if they stay long enough. But they'd also like to look around to see if…
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Today we’re talking about all things Company-Paid. We're here to help you understand and navigate the world of expenses. Here are the Real Job Talk guidelines for using your company credit card. Guideline 1: Look at your company handbook/rulebook and familiarize yourself with the company’s policies around expenses. There may be limits on hotels, gu…
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Welcome back to Real Job Talk, Kat Kibben! Kat (pronouns they/them) is the founder of Three Ears Media, a speaker, advocate, and leader in the HR space around inclusivity and job descriptions. We're really pleased to have Kat join us for a second time on the podcast. (Check out their first appearance, Episode 38: Write a Resume that Gets Past the S…
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Welcome to Real Job Talk Robert Gilbreath! Robert talks to us about his career journey as a solopreneur, entrepreneur, and an employee and how he treats each role like he’s the owner of the company. Robert Gilbreath is an experienced solopreneur and entrepreneur, and joins the show to share his insights on work mindset, ownership of roles, networki…
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Welcome to Kelli Thompson! Kelli is a speaker, coach, author, and HR executive who left the corporate world to pursue her passion for helping women advance their careers. She is driven to help more women make it to the board room, advance their careers, and bring their best, most authentic selves to the office. Today we’re going to be focusing on t…
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Today we're talking about giving feedback at work. In talking with managers at work, Liz encouraged people to ask their people how they wanted to get feedback and how to deliver news positive and negative. Feedback, when given in a timely and kind manner, can be a gift. But often we forget key steps like finding out how someone likes to receive fee…
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We talk about a topic that has come up extensively over the last few months -- severance packages. What are they? What aren't they? Why do they exist? What do you do when you get them? Our goal is to answer all of the questions we get around them to help you learn and be prepared if you’re faced with them. Question 1: What is a severance package an…
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Liz and Kat Zoom in with Mpume Ncube-Daka all the way from South Africa to talk about change conversations. Mpume works with people to drive the best decisions in their growth and development. She is passionate about personal and professional development and learning through change. Mpume thought she’d be a doctor when she grew up, but realized she…
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On today’s episode, I have a conversation about salary negotiation with Mohammed, who is based in the United Kingdom. He owns MK Career Solutions, a business that provides consulting services on CV Writing, salary negotiation and works as a career coach. As a Career Coach and CV Writer, he helps clients enhance their professional value proposition …
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In today’s episode, I have a chat with Ann Visser and we are talking, Effective communication for leaders. Ann has been equipping individuals and organisations to communicate in a way that is aligned with their values. She trains, coaches, speaks, and teaches in areas of communication, mindset, and personal growth. She teaches couples about conflic…
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Today we’re talking about job abandonment -- something we’ve each seen a handful of times in our corporate careers. (Kat saw it more with people working in retail.) We want you to know what job abandonment is, how to avoid it, and what the ripple effect can be when someone abandons their job. What is job abandonment? Job abandonment is when you jus…
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In our episode today, I have Tracy from Indiana, United States who will unpack what Toxic relationships look like. Katie is former trauma and recovery specialist, she is a love and relationship coach, author, and speaker and empowers women who feel broken, and desperate to feel loved, inspired, and confident. She also helps women to break through s…
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In today’s episode, I have an informative and very insightful conversation with Kelly Featheringham about leadership. Kelly is an executive leadership coach and is based just outside Washington DC in the United States. Kelly works with teams and individuals to help them with their team dynamics. Leadership, according to Kelly is that leaders are pe…
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In today’s episode on Change Conversations, I have an informative and insightful chat about Procrastination and how she deals with it as someone who is also living with ADHD condition. Vanessa considers herself a Nomad or a travel bunny as she prefers to call it. She has been and has lived in Asia, and Europe to mention just a couple of places. At …
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In today’s episode, we have a conversation about Mental Detachment from your workplace. I had a chat with Laura Pycraft. Laura is a professional coach, DEI specialist, and talent management, expert. For many people, work stress extends well beyond the confines of the office or the job site. The process of detachment from work-related thoughts and e…
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In our episode today, I chat with a friend of mine, Kevin. Kevin and I are both Enneagram Practitioners and we are here to share our knowledge and hope everyone finds value in our conversations. Our conversation today seeks to delve deep into explaining and understanding what an enneagram is. We speak about the different Enneagram types and how a p…
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Welcome to Real Job Talk, Angela Loeb! We refer our clients who need their resumes done to Angela because she literally wrote the book(s) on resumes and job searching. Angela started out helping people to get into beauty school- she interviewed people and helped them get into classes. Angela got into recruiting by answering an online ad (a rarity!)…
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Disclaimer: This is not financial advice in no way form or shape. This is just a conversation where we are sharing our financial experiences, should you need to make any sound financial decision, please consult a qualified financial advisor. In our episode today, I have a conversation with Thabisile Mbelu. Thabisile is a financial enthusiast and ha…
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In this episode today, I have a chat with Nosipho Ncube, who happens to be my daughter and runs her own businesses. Nosipho owns Soul Designs and Accessories, a business that specializes in handmade products. Her products include travel bag sets, backpacks, wallets, crossbody bags, and handbags. Nosipho studied Investment Management and went on to …
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In our episode today, I have a chat with Nomhle Selesho as we continue with our youth month conversation series. She runs her own photography company, she is a video editor and photographer. She made the decision to follow an entrepreneurial path because she has always been exposed to the business world. Her parents are both entrepreneurs, so she n…
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In this final installment of our youth month series, I speak to Mpho a young bubbly lady full of life, who hails from Limpopo. Growing up she thought she would be a medical doctor, so everything she did was inspired by that desire until the dream was shattered by her not doing so well in her first year of BSC. Upon failing she managed to pass life …
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In this episode we advise on what to do when your company gets acquired. Most of us don’t know if our company is going to change structure, ownership, or leadership, so when something big is announced it can be a bit shocking and can cause us to ask, “What happens to me?” What do you do that day? Acknowledge your feelings - you’re going to get floo…
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In today’s episode, I had a chat with Lali in commemoration of Youth Month in June. I enjoyed having these conversations with the younger generation because there was so much to learn from them. Noxolo, aka Lali Nkunzi is a young lady from Soweto who is taking a gap year. She took a gap year after being rejected by the universities she applied to, …
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Disclaimer: Any information being shared here is not intended nor does it constitute, financial, tax, legal investments, or other advice. Before making any decision or taking any action regarding your finances, you should seek advice from a qualified financial advisor. In this week’s episode, I speak to Dr. Miranda Moloto, who is adept at property …
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Today on Change Conversations, I speak with Phumzile Langa-Gumbi, a psychology, as well as a speech and drama alumnus. Phumzile was a talent scout at the Playhouse where she worked with many artists. Later, she ventured into human resources, where she was in charge of executive placement, training, talent management, and policy formulation dealing …
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In our episode today, I have a conversation with Brian Mthembi, who is an organisational performance strategist, a Founder and MD of BMC, a consulting firm that focuses on leadership, customer service and strategy. Brian works to solve why other companies thrive while others fail given the same factors, eg talent pool, legislation and same customer…
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In today’s episode, I have a chat with Dr. Thembi Xulu, a Medical doctor , and a public health professional by training. She holds a diploma in obstetrics and another one in HIV/AIDS medicine, this was driven by the love that HIV shouldn't be transferred to unborn babies by their mothers. She studied a Master’s in public health and management. She …
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Top secret! We’re talking about NDAs, non-disclosure agreements. What’s an NDA? It’s an agreement between you and the company saying that you won’t share information about the company outside of the company. These are shared whether you’re an employee or a contractor. Sometimes you sign an NDA when you’re interviewing, which means that whatever you…
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In this episode today, I have a conversation with Nompumelelo Mshengu who is a talent acquisition “passionist” as she calls herself. She is passionate about helping people with matching them to the right job. In this conversation, Mpume gives us insights on how best we can leverage LinkedIn as job candidates. As we may be aware, companies are movin…
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In today’s episode, I speak to Jake Davey who is successful online entrepreneur. He has worked with lots of entrepreneurs around the world teaching them how to grow and monetise their businesses on Instagram. Jake is based in the UK in Manchester, where he was a teacher for 8 years before he transitioned into his online business. He left his teachi…
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Disclaimer: Any information shared here is not intended nor does it constitute, tax, legal or any other financial advice. Before making any decision or taking any action regarding any finances, please consult a qualified financial advisor. In today’s episode I have a chat with Phumelele Ndumo. Phumelele is a financial advisor, an author of two book…
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In today’s episode, I have a chat with Zama Mkosi, a Business and Media Lawyer who also owns her own businesses. Her passion lies in protecting and growing businesses and media brands. Over her 20 years as a legal practitioner, she has held positions that include COO, CEO, and Financier among other roles. She owns businesses within and outside the …
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In today’s episode, I speak to Ntokozo Biyela, and we look into his journey of career transition. Ntokozo transitioned from corporate into running his own businesses. Ntokozo is a Serial entrepreneur, who owns and runs a company called Mindset Shift Consulting where he is a business consultant. The company does facilitation, training, mentorship, a…
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In today’s episode, I chat to Niven Postma. She is an author, lecturer, consultant in two key areas; in strategy power and working in teams and groups and hosting works that seek to educate people about office politics. There is a popular line that says “I don’t do office politics. In all honest, office politics will do you if you don’t do it. Nive…
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Today we’re talking about background checks. Background checks are a standard piece of company’s hiring processes. The company takes the resume and verifies education, employment, and criminal records. Sometimes they also do things like drug tests. Both of us have had to rescind offers or eliminate employment based on background investigations, and…
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Welcome to Dr. Carrie Root, who joins us to share her book The Other Soft Skill that teaches about intergenerational communication and connection. Carrie has had a number of career twists and turns, breaking barriers as an IT consultant with the Navy and now as an educational consultant. Carrie tells us that she ignored the gender differences she f…
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Welcome to Professional Service Manager and author of the new book Make Me The Boss: Surviving as a Millenial Manager in the Corporate World, Emily Tsitrian! We talked with Emily about being a “newer career” manager, why she wrote her book, and lessons she learned along the way. We asked Emily how she got into professional services (which is a lot …
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In today's episode, I speak with Zandile Mahlangu, a Medical Doctor who worked in clinical settings before moving to the local government. Our conversation was centred around embracing change whether it’s in your career or your general life. Zandile was inspired to pursue Medicine because she grew up in a community with not many doctors and a famil…
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In this episode, I speak to Karika Yonrene from Nigeria about personal branding and networking. Karika has a background in engineering. She enjoyed fixing things around the house as a child, but her main motivation for going into engineering was to show other women that it was possible to pursue STEM courses in such a male-dominated industry. She m…
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In this episode we’re taking a lesson from something that happened to Liz and using it to help people be prepared for networking meetings, especially when networking with executives. Liz posted on Linkedin about how her company is hiring, why it's great to work there, and told people to sign up for time with her if they were interested. Well, her c…
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In this episode, I speak about the launch of my Group Coaching ​sessions and the benefits that group coaching sessions bring. These sessions are designed for people who are starting out in their careers, people who want to change their career, new managers, people in corporate and want to transition into the business world. ​Some of the benefits in…
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Welcome to Kanika Tolver, speaker, CEO/founder, and author of Career Rehab. Kanika is a tech program manager who has build a business around helping people find and get the jobs they really want and will really love. Kanika inspires people around the globe to pursue their dreams, build their personal brands, and she is part of our tribe of people u…
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Today we’re talking about bereavement and bereavement leave and what to do when you need to take bereavement. Many companies offer very little bereavement leave. A leae of 3 days for a close loved one is typical, which we think is crazy, as our stance is that most people will not be able to come back after losing a family member after 3 days. AND, …
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Today on Change Conversations, I speak to a remarkable woman who wears different hats in the corporate and business world. Nollie Maoto is an Executive Head of Business Intelligence, Analytics, Planning and Monitoring at FNB South Africa within the Connect Me Business Unit; She is a Country Head at SAWIL; She is a Speaker, a Board Member and is pas…
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Today we’re welcoming Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, whose tagline we love: she helps high-achieving professional women at midlife courageously design a career, brand & life they love. Carol is a coach, a speaker, best-selling author and business owner. Carol followed her path to go to school, get degrees, and go down a life path -- when she realized she …
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Disclaimer: Any information being shared here is not intended nor does it constitute, financial, tax, legal investments, or other advice. Before making any decision or taking any action regarding your finances, you should seek advice from a qualified financial advisor. In today’s episode, I chat to Phuthanang traveler at heart, works as an accounta…
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