Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) and guests help you grow your career in B2B marketing. Episodes include conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing: planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand gen., product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more. Join 3,500+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.
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Win the sales moments that matter, every day. Take a deep dive into the day-to-day skills and behaviors proven to win in complex selling and buying environments. Hosted by the team that brought you the best-selling books, "The Challenger Sale" and "The Challenger Customer." Learn more about our "Winning the Challenger Sale" webinar series here: https://www.challengerinc.com/events/
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Marketing has changed. Ads are more expensive, standing out in a flooded inbox is so much harder, and the funnel isn’t a fun buying experience. If you want to solve the problems you’re facing as a marketer, it’s time to build a new playbook. Each episode of the Nearbound Marketing podcast features practitioners in the trenches of B2B Marketing who shares their insights on topics such as content marketing, influencer marketing, evangelism, affiliates, marketing partnerships, employee advocacy ...
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#164: Content | Why Better Marketing Starts With Sales with Adam Goyette
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Dave sits down with Adam Goyette, founder of Growth Union and a former marketing leader at G2 and Help Scout. Adam shares his insights from leading growth at top B2B companies to launching his own agency that helps startups scale by integrating holistic growth strategies. Adam and Dave cover: How marketing can drive demos that aren’t qualified and …
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#163: Product | Behind The Scenes of a Successful B2B Product Launch with Zach Roberts and Natalie Taylor
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Dave is joined by Zach Roberts, founder of Break into Product Marketing, and Natalie Taylor, Head of Marketing at Capsule to share. their experiences and strategies for successful product launches in B2B. Zach and Natalie cover: How to build a buyer-focused product launch by understanding and addressing your buyer’s key challenges The power of vide…
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#162: Events | Using VIP Dinners to Drive Pipeline with Natalie Taylor
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Dave is joined by Natalie Taylor, Head of Marketing at Capsule. Natalie shares her journey from getting laid off to finding her dream job through LinkedIn, and how she’s now building meaningful customer relationships through intimate in-person events at Capsule. Natalie and Dave cover: The “intimate dinner strategy” Natalie is running and how it dr…
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#161: Strategy | How to Enter New International Markets, Hiring Locally, and the Content Approval Trap with Max Van Den Ingh
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Dave sits down with Max Van Den Ingh, founder and CEO of Unmuted, a B2B SaaS marketing agency based in Amsterdam. Max shares his insights from his background in Sales, sharing how his approach of building relationships has translated to a successful marketing agency. Max and Dave Cover: His high-touch approach to entering new markets by focusing on…
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#160: Career | Remote Work Loneliness, Embracing Change, and Giving & Receiving Feedback with Kara Hardin
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Dave is joined by Kara Hardin, a Registered Psychotherapist and Lead Executive Officer at The Practice Lab. Kara specializes in the complicated ways that mental health drives performance and how it shows up at work. Drawing from her extensive experience, Kara provides actionable advice for B2B marketers to enhance their professional lives. Kara and…
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#159: Growth | Personalized Gifting, Direct Mail, and AI Driven Outbound with Kris Rudeegraap, CEO and Founder of Sendoso
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Kris Rudeegraap, CEO of Sendoso, a leading platform for direct mail and gifting in B2B marketing. Kris is an expert in using creative direct mail tactics and AI to create profitable marketing campaigns. He has helped numerous companies enhance their engagement and conversion rates through thoughtful and personaliz…
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#158: Career | High-Pressure CMO Roles, Avoiding Burnout, and Growing your Personal Brand with Amanda Goetz
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Dave is joined by Amanda Goetz, a 2x founder, 3x CMO, and the author behind the popular weekly newsletter Life's A Game. Amanda shares her expertise in personal and professional growth, brand building, and content creation. Amanda and Dave cover: How Amanda transformed her LinkedIn strategy to grow her following and engagement The impact of persona…
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#157: Brand | Creating Irresistible LinkedIn Posts, Creating Real-Time Feedback Loops, and What It Means To Be Authentic with Adam Robinson, CEO of Retention.com
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Dave sits down with Adam Robinson, CEO of Retention.com, to go behind the scenes on how he creates so much killer content on LinkedIn and has used his platform to scale not one, but two start ups to over $1m in ARR. Adam and Dave cover: Adam’s focus on creating engaging content that’s authentic Using LinkedIn’s quick feedback loops to refine your m…
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#156: LinkedIn | How to Build a LinkedIn Founder Brand that Drives Revenue with Kait Stephens and Brad Zomick
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Dave sits down with Kait Stephens, co-founder and CEO of Brij, and Brad Zomick, Brij’s former Head of Marketing turned LinkedIn consultant. Dave named Kait the “Queen of Omni-Channel” for good reason — she turned LinkedIn into a powerhouse for her brand to drive leads and revenue for her company, growing to over 15k followers. Kait, Brad, and Dave …
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#155: Inside Exit Five | Creating Webinars People Actually Want to Attend (Behind the Playbook We’re Building)
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Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) go behind the scenes of our best live session (don’t call it a webinar!) yet. Matt also shares his insights on targeting multiple personas and generating compelling content ideas. Matt and Dave cover: Creating content for multiple personas without losing your brand’s voice Secrets to engaging webinars …
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#154: Content | B2B Landing Pages that Convert to Pipeline (and How You Should Actually Be Using Attribution) with Tas Bober
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Dave is joined by Tas Bober, a B2B digital marketing strategist and top voice on LinkedIn. Tas shares her experience of growing to over 10k followers on LinkedIn, starting by just posting for fun — and how it grew into a thriving niche consulting business. Tas is an expert on landing pages and websites, and she helps marketing teams at companies li…
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#153: Inside Exit Five | How to Actually Pull Off a Rebrand with Eli Rubel of No Boring Design
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Dave and Dan (COO at Exit Five) go behind the scenes of the recent rebrand of Exit Five with Eli Rubel, Founder and CEO of No Boring Design. Eli shares his candid feedback on where partnerships with agencies and marketing teams often go wrong and the challenges of creative work. They also cover: How to create a killer creative brief How well-crafte…
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#152: Growth | LinkedIn Ads & Strategy for B2B with Anthony Blatner
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Anthony is one of the nine LinkedIn Certified Marketing Experts in North America. He’s also the Managing Director of Speedwork, a B2B LinkedIn Marketing Agency, and hosts the LinkedIn Ads Radio Podcast. He and Dave discuss LinkedIn Ad Creative & Consistent Branding Thought Leader Ads & Organic Reach Niche Audiences & Custom Content Nurture Campaign…
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#151: Brand Marketing | How To Build A Brand with Bill Macaitis (former Slack CMO & Zendesk CMO)
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This episode is from a fireside chat Dave did with Bill Macaitis, former CMO at Slack and Zendesk during G2's 2023 "Reach" event on how to build a brand in an economic downturn. We cover what is a brand, what is brand marketing, 8 ways to fit a brand into a marketing strategy, creating a brand centric product, and examples from Bill's work over the…
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#150: ABM | What ABM Isn’t – Some Huge Misconceptions of ABM, and What Works in 2024 (with Christopher Rack)
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Dave is joined by Christopher Rack, CEO of pharosIQ. Chris is a seasoned leader with a track record of driving remarkable growth. With experience spanning individual contributions to executive leadership, he's led four sales organizations to achieve 10x growth in just 2-3 years. His leadership ethos prioritizes building robust processes and fosteri…
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#149: Marketing Leadership | 16 Lessons I Wish I Knew As First Time B2B Marketing Leader
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Dave shares the 16 lessons he wishes he knew as a first-time marketing leader, going from marketing manager to CMO in four years. This is a recording from Metadata's DEMAND 2022 virtual event in October 2022. The lessons include: 1. Forget acronyms 2. The story is the strategy 3. Think hard about “offers” 4. Push your team past incremental thinking…
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#148: Strategy | Will AI Impact SEO, Are Sales and Marketing Converging, The Timeless Principles of Marketing (With John Short)
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Dave is joined by John Short, Founder & CEO of Compound Growth Marketing. John spent a decade as a B2B SaaS marketer at LogMeIn, Yesware, and Workable before starting his own full-funnel marketing agency in 2018. John is focused on helping companies find the right strategy in order to grow, as opposed to just blindly picking from a menu of marketin…
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#147: Inside Exit Five | Behind The Scenes Launching Our First Event and Exit Five's Recent Growth
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Dave and Dan (COO at Exit Five) share the behind the scenes on Exit Five's growth. They cover How we sold out Drive in 24 hours Why we used a waitlist strategy How much Exit Five has grown How much we're investing into the business this year Solopreneurship PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a bur…
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#146: Strategy | Community Building with Greg Isenberg
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Dave is joined by Greg Isenberg. Greg is the CEO & Co-Founder of Late Checkout. Greg has started and sold 3 companies in the community space and has now invested in 50+ community-based businesses. They discuss Why you need to build an engaged community before a paid membership The importance of niching down The difference between audience and commu…
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#145: Content | What It Means to Be a Media Company, Building an Audience, and Community with Anthony Kennada
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Anthony Kennada is is co-founder & CEO of AudiencePlus, a company building software, content, and community to help businesses become media companies. Prior to founding AudiencePlus, Anthony served as the CMO of Hopin, Front, and Gainsight. In this episode, they discuss What it means to be a media company Building an audience from scratch Why build…
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#144: Strategy | Measuring The Effectiveness of Marketing and Predicting Revenue with Pranav Piyush
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Dave is joined by Pranav Piyush, CEO and Co-Founder of Paramark. With 15 years of growth and marketing experience at companies like PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, and BILL, Pranav is convinced that CMOs deserve better measurement solutions. That’s why he started Paramark, a tool to help Marketing leaders become more confident about how to invest their bud…
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#143: Inside Exit Five | How to Get More Reviews, Structuring a Marketing Team and Our In-Person Event
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Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover Selling out our in-person event tickets Strategies for getting more online reviews How to think through structuring your marketing team Live chat on websites PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature yo…
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#142: Strategy | Jason Lemkin on What Makes a Great VP Marketing in SaaS, Working with the CEO, and Lessons from SaaStr
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Dave is joined by Jason Lemkin. Jason is the founder of SaaStr, the world’s largest community of SaaS executives, founders, and entrepreneurs. Before SaaStr, Jason founded EchoSign, which was sold to Adobe in 2011. They discuss Why Jason started SaaStr What makes a great VP of Marketing in SaaS and how to hire one How tech and SaaS have changed sin…
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We're growing our team at Exit Five voice. This is a quick message from Dave about a new Content Marketing role we just opened up. You can read more about this role and apply here on our job board. Maybe our next great teammate is already listening to the Exit Five podcast...By Exit Five
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#141: Inside Exit Five | Nurturing Web Visitors, Dark Social and Reactions To Our Rebrand
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Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover Reactions to our rebrand How to nurture the 99% of website visitors that don't convert Advice for shipping a new website Dark social and why you need to make it part of your strategy PS. We’d love to get your…
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#140: Marketing Strategy | Intent Data, Back to Basics with ABM, and B2B Non SaaS (with Christopher Rack)
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Dave is joined by Christopher Rack, CEO of pharosIQ. Chris is a seasoned leader with a track record of driving remarkable growth. With experience spanning individual contributions to executive leadership, he's led four sales organizations to achieve 10x growth in just 2-3 years. His leadership ethos prioritizes building robust processes and fosteri…
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#139: Strategy | Building Community in B2B, LinkedIn Organic, and Influencer Partnerships (with Chris Walker)
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Dave joins Chris Walker for a Refine Labs Expert Series event. Chris is the Founder & Executive Chairman of Refine Labs and Founder & CEO of Passetto. They discuss The principles of building a community LinkedIn personal vs. company page engagement The role of executives in thought leadership content How companies are leveraging influencer partners…
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#138: Marketing Leadership | Proven Management Tactics to Lead High Impact Marketing Teams (with Dave Kline)
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Dave is joined by Dave Kline. Dave is currently the owner of SkillScouter and Co-Founder of MGMT Accelerator. He spent 20 years leading teams sized 2 to 200 at Moody's and Bridgewater before starting his own management accelerator. They talk about leadership and management for people who want to grow their careers and take on a leadership role. Thi…
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#137: Inside Exit Five | Goldenhour Recap, Listener Questions, and The Future of E5
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Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover How to start building your portfolio as a new agency owner What Sales can do to become a partner to Marketing (and vice versa) Whether podcasts are for brand awareness and lead nurturing Webinars and whether …
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#136: AI | How To Use AI In B2B Marketing (with Jessica Hreha)
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Dave is joined by Jessica Hreha. Jessica is the Head of Marketing AI Strategy & Transformation at Jasper. Previously, she was the Head of Global Integrated Campaigns & Content Strategy and Founder of VMware Marketing AI Council at VMware. They discuss everything AI in B2B Marketing, such as How to use AI to ideate and refine your creation process U…
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#135: Marketing Leadership | Traits of a High Performing CMO (with Dave Kellogg)
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Dave Kellogg is a former CEO and CMO with operational experience across companies from $0 to $1B+. He served as GM/SVP of Service Cloud for Salesforce, CEO of MarkLogic, and SVP of Marketing at SAP / Business Objects. Today, he is principal at Dave Kellogg Consulting, EIR at Balderton Capital, and author of the popular SaaS blog Kellblog (www.kellb…
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#134: Community | How This B2B Brand is Building Community with (Daniel Cmejla)
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Dave is joined by Daniel Cmejla, VP of Community at Apollo.io. Before Apollo, Daniel was the VP of Brand and Community at Chili Piper. In this episode, they discuss How to use LinkedIn to build community The difference between building community vs. building ‘a’ community Using internal team members LinkedIn profiles to lift the companies brand Com…
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#133: Inside Exit Five | How Edgy Can B2B Social Content Be? Advice For First-Time Marketing Leaders and Product Launches
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Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover How 'edgy' B2B brands can get with their social media pages (and if they should) Advice for first-time marketing leaders Dave's advice for product launches Why marketing fundamentals are key to your marketing…
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#132: Growth | B2B Website Conversion Tactics with Talia Wolf
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Dave is joined by Talia Wolf, CEO and Founder of Getuplift. Talia was recently listed as one of the most influential experts in conversion optimization. She’s trained companies all over the world and has taught on stages such as Google, MozCon, CTAconf, Search Love, and many more. They discuss things like Selling with emotional benefits over featur…
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#131: Inside Exit Five | LinkedIn Personal Page vs. Company Page, Marketing Generalist vs. Specialist
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In this new regular segment of the podcast, Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover Whether you should focus on the company or personal LinkedIn pages What the CEO can do to grow their LinkedIn profile When it's acceptable to be a marketing general…
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#130: Strategy | How to Measure Your B2B Marketing Efforts (With Pranav Piyush, CEO and Co-Founder of Paramark)
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Dave is joined by Pranav Piyush, CEO and Co-Founder of Paramark. With 15 years of growth and marketing experience at companies like PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, and BILL, Pranav is convinced that CMOs deserve better measurement solutions. That’s why he started Paramark, a tool to help Marketing leaders become more confident about how to invest their bud…
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#129: Inside Exit Five | Do Nurture Sequences Work? How to Become a Better Copywriter and Why Brand Matters in B2B
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We are debuting a new regular segment of the podcast called “Inside Exit Five.” We will dive into some of the popular topics and share lessons and learnings from inside the Exit Five community. Dave is joined by Matt Carnevale (Marketing Manager at Exit Five), and they cover Do nurture sequences still work in B2B? Best books, resources, and strateg…
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#128: Marketing Leadership | The Role of CMO, Taking a New Job, Making Changes in the Marketing Org (with Peter Mahoney, CMO, GoTo)
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Dave is joined by Peter Mahoney, CMO of GoTo. Prior to that, he was the CMO at Nuance Communications and later founded Plannuh, which was acquired by Planful. Peter is the author of The Next CMO: A Guide to Operational Marketing Excellence, a book that teaches you how to form marketing goals, create a strategy, build a plan, craft impactful campaig…
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#127: LinkedIn | Video, Ads, and Slicing Fruit (with Tim Davidson)
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Dave is joined by Tim Davidson, Founder of B2B Rizz. Tim has 10+ years of digital marketing experience in SaaS organizations, driving pipeline and revenue through ABM and LinkedIn ads, which he now does for others with his own company. They talk all things LinkedIn like Why getting started is better than perfect What's working on LinkedIn today Why…
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#126: Career | How to Navigate Early-Stage Marketing and Your Compensation Package (with Emily Kramer and Kathleen Estreich from MKT1)
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Kathleen Estreich and Emily Kramer are the co-founders of MKT1. They advise founders, recruit and advise marketers, and invest in SaaS startups, and join Dave on this episode of the Exit Five podcast to talk about early-stage marketing strategy and hiring (Kathleen and Emily have held roles at Facebook, Box, Intercom, Scalr, Asana, Carta). They als…
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#125: Career | How Chili Piper's New VP of Marketing Landed His Job (with Brandon Redlinger)
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Dave is joined by Brandon Redlinger, VP of Marketing at Chili Piper. Brandon takes us through how he landed his new role at Chili Piper against hundreds of applicants and How to think through and negotiate compensation When to leave your job and how to break up with your employer Tips for nailing interviews for competitive positions Determining com…
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#124: Events | How to Create Memorable Events that Drive Pipeline (with Kera Wright, Founder of Planner Pal)
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Dave is joined by Kera Wright, Founder of Planner Pal. Kera ran Event Marketing at companies like Microdesk and Aircall, where she managed planning and execution at high-profile trade shows like Dreamforce and INBOUND. She has now founded her own company to help marketing teams host better events. Kera shares her approach to organizing events, cove…
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#123: Marketing Leadership | How To Run Marketing, Creating Categories, and the Role of Marketing in Revenue Growth (with Kyle Coleman from Copy.ai)
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Dave is joined by Kyle Coleman, CMO at Copy.ai. Kyle went from Individual Contributor to Senior Director at Looker and Director to CMO at Clari. During his time there, he helped both companies 10x their revenue. In this episode, they chat about The importance of leadership team alignment and why the CRO & CFO should be your best friend How marketin…
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#122: Product Marketing | Improve the B2B Buying Experience with Interactive Product Demos (with Natalie Marcotullio from Navattic)
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This week, we're sharing a recording from an Exit Five Live Session with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic. She has a background in SEO and digital marketing for B2B sales and marketing SaaS. Over the years, her focus has shifted to full-funnel marketing, GTM strategy, and improving the digital buyer experience. In this…
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#121: Content | B2B Content Strategy, Distribution Tactics, and Organic Social (with Ross Simmonds)
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This week, Dave is joined by Ross Simmonds. Ross is the Founder & CEO of Foundation, a content marketing agency that strategizes, distributes, and optimizes content for some of the most successful SaaS companies in the world and works as partners for multiple publicly traded cloud companies that have redefined entire industries. They share lessons …
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#107: Mentoring the Next Generation of Successful Sales Leaders
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The sales profession has evolved, but one thing has remained the same: the power and importance of mentorship. Where sales leaders once learned in person from each other in unstructured meetings — office banter, going to lunch, connecting at conferences or networking events — many of today’s professionals now work primarily from home. So how can we…
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#120: Design - How To Drive More Pipeline by Taking Risks with Design and Brand (with Eli Rubel)
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In this episode, Dave is joined by Eli Rubel. Eli is the CEO of Matter Made and NoBoringDesign and a Marketing Advisor for companies like Dropbox and Loom. Eli discusses how companies that take risks with their design and go outside the brand guidelines will stand out in the sea of sameness and drive more pipeline. He also discusses His framework f…
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#119: Strategy | B2B Positioning, Understanding How People Buy and Building Wynter (with Peep Laja)
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In this episode, Dave sits down with Peep Laja. Peep is an entrepreneur; he founded a portfolio of companies, including CXL, Speero, and Wynter. He's the active CEO for Wynter, a B2B target customer insights platform. Peep also hosts the How to Win podcast. Peep takes us through the founding story of Wynter, effective strategies for messaging and i…
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#118: Marketing Leadership | How to align sales and marketing, why messaging matters over everything, and a new way to compensate marketing leaders (with Brian Kotlyar, VP of Marketing and Growth at Hightouch ...
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This week, Dave is joined by Brian Kotlyar. Brian leads Marketing and Growth at Hightouch and previously led teams at Sprinklr, Intercom, and New Relic. He shares his perspective on Aligning revenue teams toward common goals The importance of an effective messaging strategy Prioritizing numerous ideas from CEOs A high-reward compensation approach T…
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#106: Accelerating Pipeline with a Unified ABM Strategy
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What does account-based marketing (ABM) look like in 2024? For most people, they talk about it as a platform, and not a strategy. When you embrace ABM as a critical part of your GTM strategy, you can break down internal barriers and bring marketing, sales and customer together to create the ultimate account experience. Kristina Jaramillo, president…
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