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John McCarroll and Kevin Diamond are booze industry paragons and total hunks. Follow their journey as they open rad wine, kick back, and learn valuable lessons about being true to their own appellations.
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Anthony and Fiona are wine-drinking, restaurant-going, industry types in Los Angeles who enjoy talking about fancy grape juice (wine) & whatever else tickles their fancy. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thatsommtalk/support
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No guests, no hope, no filter: The boys finish the Portuguese season the way we always knew they would -- talking about Dragons, Democracy and the Damn Catalans. Kevin teases the next big season towards the end, but please get ready for SUMMER PROGRAMMING up next, which means delightfully weird episodes with a lot of your friends and enemies about …
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Eddie Chami, perhaps the most visionary winemaker in the middle east right now graciously sat down for a phone interview with me instead of seeing his kid graduate. The power I fucking wield i swear to god. Everything from Altitude - Zionism gets covered here -- big topics all around but, Eddie is basically the best dude on Earth, even as his proje…
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Saint Vincent is the patron saints of winemakers because he got squished and is the patron saint of Murcia and Lisboa and that's good enough for us to absolutely become earnest and weird. First time Max burned down the house holy shit. Go to Lords? ////LIST//// Humus, Palheto do Lisboa, 2021// Laboratotio Rupestre, Murcia Tinto, 'Ruina,' 2017// Ant…
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Mary,,, you're one crazy chica.... Thank you Cherry Iocovozzi of Neng Jr.'s and vvvv soon Harmony, soon to be Asheville's destination for karaoke, natural wine and confessing. This episode is so close to actually discovering theology it's a miracle. Go to Asheville and discuss it ////LIST//// Forlong, Blanco 2019 Cadiz / Andalucia // Ramilo, Colare…
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I can die happy. Rafa and Kevin said this episode made sense and that the whole *concept* is good. Damn I needed that. Please tell a friend, just something as simple as "I listen to a really parasocial wine podcast and I think you'd like it." Stuff like this is , to me, greater than all the wine in the world. If you tell a friend let us know and we…
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New guest / America's new favorite green point wine queen Mackenzie Gasset @_baby.cham_ came on to learn and teach about St. Elizabeth of Portugal, connections within the Iberian Peninsula, the Pope's latest goof-up, and, of course, victorian erotic novels. A true barnborner of an episode, I actually believe that this season will live forever. Go v…
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SOLO BAD BOYS EP: Welcome to our Portugal season about the cults of saints in Iberia, which I'm sure is exactly what you all wanted. This is explained in the episode, along with why it took us so long to do Portugal and, like, a general outline of how we feel going into this season. It's pretty spooky doing new stuff, but don't worry, we're sneakin…
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Brent Mayeaux of Stagiaire wines came on to drink unicorns, talk Hamilton, and bemoan the fate of his truck. Buy his wines at https://www.stagiairewine.com/store. ////LIST//// Arquils, Sierra Foothills, Sauvignon Blanc, 2021// Pierre Beauger, Ardeche, 'Sb 16/20,' NV // Sonoma Mtn Winery, Sonoma Valley, Cabernet Sauvignon, 2009// Samuel Boulay, Arde…
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America's number 1 Phish fanatic Tira Johnson came on to talk shit about her least favorite varieties. Too bad the wines accidentally whipped, like they were criminally tasty, so I guess these grapes are good, actually??? Anyhow, this is the part of the season where we reveal that actually the whole point of this was to talk about California and ou…
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Full episode at patreon.com/disgorgeous :) Simon Woolf, of the https://themorningclaret.com/ came on to discuss "Fine Wine," "Natural Wine," "Commodity Wine," and Central Europe writ large. His work is probably some of the most interesting in the natural wine world today, and we're thrilled to have him on Support the Show.…
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James aka Children's atlas of wine came on to discuss getting older, wine trends and transformations, the history of Napa, white wine's healing powers, and new hyperpop fixations. Please go to his classes ////LIST//// Girard, Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon, 1987// La Portte Saint Jean, VDF, Le Saut Mignon, 2021//// Support the Show.…
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The hero of upcoming Heroes NYC, Kenneth Crum came to discuss our turn towards right wing / red wine extremism, the upcoming eclipse, Napoleon and John's worrying chemical imputs. This is the second episode in a row we recorded on the couch and it's really addicting. Please go to Kenneth's new restaurant, Heroes NYC the instant it opens and also ma…
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The bit is that our guest picks the wine for the episode this season. One cab sauv, one sauv blanc. This is not exactly what happened with our esteemed guest, Amanda Smeltz, the inventor of hot honey, but we had a really good time doing conpersion and loving without limits. Xoxoxoxo ////List//// Andreas Tscheppe, ‘Green Dragonfly Plus,’ 2021// Ceri…
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It's the last main feed episode of Austro Thirsty Empire (WINE CLUB MEMBERS... YOU GET A SECRET EPISODE NEXT WEEK, and Patreons there's a few more interviews bopping around) so we thought we'd bring in the BIG guns: Welcome Emily Gutiérrez, possibly NYC's best Central and Eastern European sommelier to the pod. We're talking English Royalty, unveili…
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hey, It's Kevin. It's John's birthday and he's in Paris or Rome or something, so here I am, in charge of talking to you about this episode. What a good one! I love when James is on cause I know for a fact I'm the dumbest one in the room. For reference: We were sitting in a triangle shape, I was lounging on the couch and the boys were both at the ne…
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****THE DEADLINE FOR THE WINE CLUB IS FEBRUARY 29 PLEASE SECURE YOUR V. LIMITED SPOTS @ copakewineworks.com/disgorgeous******** It finally snowed in NYC and things got weird, but we finally got the Hudson Valley's best Sommelier and General Manager of Homespun Cafe, Heather Barr on to talk about the "cold" part of the Austro Hungarian Empire, Czech…
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*** THE LAST DAY TO SIGN UP FOR DISGORGEOUS WINE CLUB IS FEB 29 PLEASE DO SO @ Copakewineworks.com/disgorgeous **** Hey all! This is what the bonus episodes on the Patreon are like, but there's no way we're gatekeeping this one. Sari Khoury is the winemaker behind the stellar Philokalia wines in the Occupied West Bank, and John was lucky enough to …
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Kevin is on vacation so Big Sturge stepped up for a v fun chat with Ethan Risinger, King Country mouse about Piwi grapes in the Dolomites and Styria. Duck is literally terrified the entire time, so this is officially off the rails from the get go, but actually ends up getting, dare I say, poignant. Cutting edge wine from some of the best terroirs i…
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Sarah Favinger, bassist and wine buyer to the stars joins the boys to discuss the white hot border between Ottoman civility and Hapsburg barbarity. To be incredibly honest, this is probably the most insane we've sounded in years -- sorry Sarah! Hard to overstate how good all these wines were --wines to treasure rather than slam down while doing big…
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This is a message from the future. If you don't join the Disgorgeous wine club at Copake Wine Works dot com the robots will win. I can't explain it right now, but you need to trust me Trust the plan where we go one we go all. Brittany Myrick came on this episode and basically burned down the studio by being so fucking cool. Don't crucify your kids,…
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Daryl Nuhn, proprietress of Prima and also recent knitting maven, joins the boys to pronounce some truly batshit words like a champion, and also to discuss volcanic wines from the countryside around Budapest. Duck's mental health crisis takes a downward turn, Kevin just keeps swimming, and the wines all truly, deeply, madly go OFF. I know this is g…
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This is the biggest season we've ever done, and we're really giving it the gravitas it deserves. Sorry for all the Hapsburgs stans, but those weirdos are getting ethered all praise due to Hot Ottoman Crush Suleiman the Magnificent. This episode features three wines from Hapsburg crown lands (lmao borders aren't real) and basically traces how insane…
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GOAT Guest Christy Frank brought us English wine because people keep DMing Duck and wouldn't you know it? They are all bangers (Not in the English sense [they aren't sausage!] but in the American way, where it means they SLAYYYYYyy). I guess if you are going to England for some reason, bring some of these back? Go to Copake Wine Works for all your …
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🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉Jason Bajalia of Terra Sancta came to talk about Palestinian wine, hope, occupation, types of alligators and to make duck cry. Please bother your representatives and make them know how much you don’t want to pay for this genocide and donate to the Palestinian children’s relief fund. ////LIST//// Cremisan, Bethlehem, Palestine, ‘Hamdani Jandani…
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The gandalf of grapes and the wizard of snacking join John to discuss breaking the rules, going "off the grid," and the poetics of farming. Kevin was turning 40, that's why he wasn't there. Hire Jenny for a job, and drink Nate's wines. ////LIST//// Chateau Massereau, Bordeaux Superior, 'Cuvee K,' 2012// Domaine du Pech, 'la Badinerie du Pech,' 2011…
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It's a bad boy episode with a southern flare. Expect plenty of yuma squeaks, southern accents, and pinot sacrilege. But what if Pinot was always meant to play with Gamay? And what if the the true field blend was.... the friends we made along the way? ////LIST//// Domaine Tessier, Cheverny Rosé, 2022// Herve Villemade, Cheverny, 2022 // Domaine La B…
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Justine is here to taste with us through the Americas. Don't you dare call it the new world. But why is Pinot here? Does it belong here? Is Marquette a better grape? Is John the wine world's answer to Brittany Spears? Gabe I know you want a list of what wines we drink but this is Kevin's season and he's too lazy to type out all those words. Just te…
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Christy came on, and Kevin forgot to write notes, so John is GRACEFULLY doing so. ////LIST//// Ngeringa, Adelaide Hills Pinot Noir, 'Barker Summit,' 2019// Kunoh, Nelson Pinot Noir, 'Casablanca,' 2020// Les Fruits, Adelaide Hills Pinot Noir, 'Atmospheres,' 2019 //// Support the Show.By Disgorgeous
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Alicia Kennedy is, frankly, a must follow and must read for anyone who believes in food and drink. Sorry, not sorry, she is a guiding light right now and her book No Meat Required is STAGGERINGLY good. She came on the pod to discuss bivalves, the socialism of nice things, wine, vegetarianism and what people think food books need to be. Truly incred…
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The man, the myth, the legend. We are so pleased to have one of our favorite winemakers, Roberto Henriquez, sit down with us for an hour and talk about Chile, French people in Chile, Pais, and more. It should be known that Roberto gave Yuma so many pets and she really appreciated it. Our season on Pinot Noir will continue next week! ////LIST//// L.…
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Pinot leaves France and voyages out into the rest of the EU to find herself. But can she ever really escape her past? Libby is wicked smart, and a good at singing. We start with some musical theatre chat so you know this episode is gonna be a banger, like a classic Stanley Kubrick movie, you'll be at the edge of your seat. Something about birds. //…
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Kevin again. Here we are, in a very special Kevin season, and John is too busy getting drunk in Montreal to write anything here. An Auvergne, a Jura, and an Alsatian walk into a pinot.... you won't believe what happens next. ////LIST//// Vincent and Marie Tricot, VDF, '3 bonhommes,' 2022// Benedicte and Stephane Tissot, Cotes du Jura, 'Pinot Noir S…
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Dr. Edward Slingerland, author of Drunk: How We Sipped, Danced, and Stumbled our Way to Civilization explains, rather patiently, how drinking is, actually, good and makes the case for slightly restrained hedonism. His book, which is out now and purchasable, is almost certainly required reading for anyone working or thinking about booze, especially …
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The idea of this season is what if Burgundy never existed. Kevin eats half an edible and explains the concept to John. The boys messed up the recording of this one so the first 15 minutes sound kinda weird sorry. This is Kevin. They drank a Berthout-Gerbet Fixin. This season is going to be so, so good. ////LIST//// Berthout-Gerbet, Fixin, 2020 ////…
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L’angelore, Tavel, 2016// Romain Le Bars, Tavel, 2021// Close Cibonne, Cotes de Provence, ‘Tradition,’ 2010// Domane Tempier, Bandol, Rose 2020// Pierre Micheland / Domaine de la Réaltière, Coteaux D’Aix en Provence, ‘Pastel,’ 2022 //// Support the Show.By Disgorgeous
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Abbatucci, VDF, 'Valle di Nero,’ 2020// Giovanni Montisci, Mamoiada, ‘Barrosu,’ 2021// Cantina Sannas, Mamoida, ‘Maria Pittina,’ NV/ Sergio Drago, Terre Siciliane, ‘Rosso,’ 2021// Giuseppe Cipolla / Passofonduto, ‘Occhio di Sale,’ 2022//// Support the Show.By Disgorgeous
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Tira Johnson returns to talk about the Adriatic Sea, pink wine, octopuses, and that space where the ocean meets the sky <3. Truly, my heart aches with how good these wines are, I know this is a comedy podcast, but literally every single one made me want to punch a hole in the table. This mediterranean rosé thing is literally the best idea we've had…
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James aka Mr. Too Damn Children's Atlas himself came over on probably the hottest day of the year to whip us into shape RE: The Eastern Mediterranean and Aegean regions, rosés, and Phoenicians. Spoiler alert: We really push the definition of what a rosé can be by, like, wine #3. This is going to be such a cool season. Please, please, please, seek o…
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Perry Conner and Peter Szilagyi hijacked the pod to explain that actually, N/A Coors is the best beer, Hybrid Grapes make the best wine, and that Virginia isn't just for lovers, it's also for serious wine. This is kind of like #girldinner for your brain, ok? Just have fun with it. DM Perry and Peter all the time, buy their wine, support local proje…
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Kevin knocked this episode title out of the park, for real. This is, as always for the first episode of a season, a reminder of how dumb and silly we are without our gorgeous genius guests. Welcome to our Mediterranean Rosé season. Strangely enough, our first episode is about pink wine from the north. Just go with it - we wanted to chat about rosé …
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Read Jirka's article on Punch: it is the bible for this shit. Jirka came to chat about cider / wine coferments, the future of everything, and to not laugh at our dumb jokes. She's the best. This is the end of cider season, but it does continue for a few more eps on the PATREON.... ////LIST//// Kalche, VT, 'Song of Solomon,' 2022// Disciple, VT, 'ST…
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America's best forager and cutest cider boi, Benford Lepley of Floral Terranes and Trees are Filters joined us to talk the real dirt about foraging, yell about trees, and off-mic eat bagels. Truly, he is a gift, find and treasure his ciders folks. ////LIST//// Southhill Ciders, FLX NYS, 'Packbasket,' 2019// Rocky Ground Ciders, Maine, 'Pips,' 2018/…
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This episode felt so fucking good wow, cider rules. This is all about cider from the damn orchard, featuring someone who should know: Ryan James Burke of Occam, Angry Orchard and Virtue, aka Mr Too Damn Apples. This was, frankly, a really insane lineup of pommological treats. Seek them out. Drink local apples. I am so happy right now, fuck mead 4 r…
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The lore: Before there was Disgorgeous John and Kevin were CiderGuys. We have spent something like 7 years trying to hide it. This is the first episode of the only season of Disgorgeous we actually qualified to make. Drink some fucking cider, rate and review, check the fucking patreon for more content. We love you, this is a dream come true. ////LI…
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