Brew Strong, with hosts Jamil Zainasheff and John Palmer, combines the two most prominent authors and figures in homebrewing today in a live beer radio format that allows listeners to pose beginning and advanced brewing questions to expert hosts and guests from the Craft Beer industry. Designed as a brewing geek's must-listen show, Brew Strong is your source for cutting edge beer and brewing information, answers to technical questions, as well as a guide to a greater appreciation of all thin ...
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Casual conversations about everything having to do w/ Real Estate... and YOU! It's a fun laid back format, that explores all the various pieces of the Real Estate World. Selling homes since 1992, gives me many markets and trends to look back on and helps me ask the right questions (most of the time), in order to get the most out of my knowledgeable guests. Give it a listen and tell me what you think. :) (intro music - Jeff Miller)
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Can faith survive an evolutionary account of humanity and religion? – Andrew Halestrap and Sam Devis
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Sam Devis is a former Christian and produces a podcast called When Belief Dies. One of the triggers for his faith deconstruction was reading Yuval Noah Harari’s ‘Sapiens’ and the consequent questions this raised, particularly around evolution. Andrew Halestrap is emeritus professor of biochemistry and senior research fellow at Bristol University an…
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Retire from Teaching at age 35... Do I have YOUR Attention YET?
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Get good grades, get a college degree, take student loans, get a good job, and sit in a cubicle for 40 years. Like everyone else he knew, Bryce Stewart believed this was the only realistic Economic Life Plan. But through Real Estate Investing, he was able to retire from his 9-to-5 Teaching Job at age 35. He now spends his days with his wife and fou…
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Classic Replay: Debating miracles with Sceptic Michael Shermer and Christian Adrian Holloway
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You don't have to look far for claims of the miraculous. But what constitutes a ‘miracle’ and do Christian beliefs in this area make sense? Michael Shermer is a well-known atheist in the USA and founding publisher of Skeptic magazine. He says miraculous claims always have a natural explanation. Adrian Holloway is a London pastor and apologist. He c…
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Is the US Church in the grip of political idolatry? Shane Claiborne & Johnnie Moore
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Following the pro-Trump riots and storming of Congress at Capitol Hill, many fear white evangelicals in the USA are in the grip of political idolatry in their support of the outgoing president. Justin is joined by Johnnie Moore who chaired Trump’s Evangelical Executive Council and defends Trump’s administration, and Christian justice activist Shane…
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Brew Strong | Brewing With Kveik Yeast
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Homebrewers looking to give their beers a different level of complexity are gravitating towards Kveik yeast. Kveik is relatively new to the American homebrew scene, so Jamil and John chatted with an expert for this show - Richard from Escarpment Labs. The folks at Escarpment have been leading the way when it comes to Kveik research, and Richard's k…
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Classic Replay: Is science at odds with Christianity? PZ Myers & Denis Alexander
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Atheist Biologist PZ Myers is an outspoken critic of Christianity. He believes that faith in God and science are contradictory. He debates theistic evolutionist Denis Alexander, (now Emeritus) Director of the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion. Is science is at odds with Christianity as PZ claims? They touch on Fine Tuning, Rationality and …
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Are Scandinavian countries a secular paradise? Christian Lomsdalen and Stefan Gustavsson
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It’s often been argued that the prosperity and welfare of Scandinavian countries such as Denmark, Norway and Sweden are proof that secular societies do better than religious ones. Christian Lomsdalen of the Norwegian Humanist Association & Stefan Gustavsson of Apologia – Centre for Christian Apologetics in Sweden join Justin to debate the issues.Ch…
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Classic Replay: Buddhism and Christianity in dialogue
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Geshe Tashi Tsering has been a Buddhist monk since he was a teenager. He claims that fulfillment in life involves shedding negative mental states and embracing the enlightened understanding of Buddhism. We are the answer to our own salvation. Sunil Shivdasani is a Christian from a Hindu background. He works with Christian Vision for Men. He explain…
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Brew Strong | Hop Layering in Homebrew
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Hoppy beers are more popular than ever. Consumers and homebrewers alike are in search of a depth of hop flavor in their beers. Today, Jamil and John review some best practices on just how they achieve great hop flavor in their beers, and easy ways homebrewers can conquer that summit at home, too! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm…
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Where We've Been (2020) and Where We "think" We Are Going (2021)
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No one can tell the future, but we can make an educated guess on what we think it will look like. Mark Chaknos and Susan McFadden are my guests for the last episode of REAY for 2020! We chat about where we've been and where we think we are going in 2021. We all agreed that the future looks bright for 2021. COVID vaccine is making it's way into soci…
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Finding Jesus in JRR Tolkien and Lord Of The Rings – Holly Ordway and Michael Jahosky
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JRR Tolkien was a devout Catholic and friend of CS Lewis. Justin is joined by Michael Jahosky author of ‘The Good News of the Return of the King: The Gospel in Middle Earth’ and Holly Ordway, author of ‘Tolkien’s Modern Reading: Middle Earth beyond the Middle Ages’. They discuss the Christian themes in Tolkien’s fantasy writing, his friendship with…
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Classic Replay: Mormon and Christian dialogue
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Justin explores the key differences in belief between Mormons and Christians as he meets two men breaking the mould of interfaith dialogue. Robert Millet is a Mormon and professor at Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City, Utah. Greg Johnson is a Baptist pastor in the city who founded Standing Together, an organisation aimed at building bridges…
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Brew Strong | Brewing Oktoberfest Beers At home
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Oktoberfest is an easy beer to drink, but can be complex to make. Jamil and John review the history and guidelines of this style, and try to break down the desirable elements that homebrewers want to include when they brew it at home. It's science day ... oktoberfest style! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
We look back over 2020 and share some of our highlights, favourite clips and lessons we’ve learnt along the way. Plus, author Nick Page debunks some Christmas myths and we hear stories of people who came to faith largely through apologetics. For Nick Page: http://nickpage.co.uk/ USA listeners check out our new USA website for exclusive resources an…
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Classic Replay: Pt 2 How did Christianity begin? Michael Bird and James Crossley
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Two New Testament scholars go head to head. Michael Bird is a believer, James Crossley is not. They have different conclusions about how the Christian faith began and have written a dialogue in their book ‘How Did Christianity Begin - a believer and non-Believer examine the evidence’. Originally broadcast in January 2009. USA listeners check out ou…
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The Christmas story: fact or fairytale? Lydia McGrew vs Jonathan Pearce
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Atheist blogger Jonathan Pearce is the author of ‘The Nativity: A Critical Examination’. He believes the birth narratives in Matthew and Luke are pious fiction. Christian thinker Lydia McGrew, author of ‘The Mirror or the Mask?’ defends the historicity of the Nativity accounts. Take our show survey: https://survey-star.co.uk/unbelievablechristmas F…
It's another round of listener questions! Jamil and John rummage through the mail bag, picking the choicest and most succulent homebrew questions to dive into. Trub in your fermenter, carbon dioxide, sharks ... it's all answered on today's show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Classic Replay: How did Christianity begin? Part 1 Michael Bird and James Crossley
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Two New Testament scholars go head to head. Michael Bird is a believer, James Crossley is not. They have different conclusions about how the Christian faith began and have written a dialogue in their book ‘How Did Christianity Begin - a believer and non-Believer examine the evidence’. Originally broadcast in January 2009. USA listeners check out ou…
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William Lane Craig answers your questions on God, universalism and the best atheist arguments
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Renowned Christian philosopher William Lane Craig joins Justin and Ruth for a live-stream show taking audience questions on salvation, God, atheism, evidence, and much more. For William Lane Craig: https://www.reasonablefaith.org USA listeners check out our new USA website for exclusive resources and to support us: http://www.unbelievable.show Ever…
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Brew Strong | Homebrewing Low Alcohol Beers
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Low alcohol beers are quickly becoming popular in the homebrew world. On today's episode of "Brew Strong", Jamil and John go through some basics of brewing a low ABV beer, including some do's and don'ts. If you are interested in taking your homebrew in a new direction, this is a can't-miss show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/…
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Classic Replay: Creation or Evolution - do we have to choose? Denis Alexander & Stephen Lloyd
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Denis Alexander author of 'Creation or Evolution: Do we have to choose?' defends theistic evolution opposite creationist Stephen Lloyd. Originally broadcast Nov 2008. USA listeners check out our new USA website for resources, updates and to support us: http://www.unbelievable.show Support the show from the rest of the world: https://resources.premi…
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Is the God of the Bible a capriciously malevolent, misogynistic, sadomasochistic bully? Dan Barker vs Martin Kuhrt
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Richard Dawkins famously describes the God of the Old Testament as ‘jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully’. Dan Barker and Rev…
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Don't "Steer Clear" of a Real Estate Career - Jordan Kreitz
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My good friend Jordan Kreitz started her career in Real Estate a little over two years ago and hasn't looked back since! From owning her own driving service (Steer Clear) to working as an insurance business (which she said was boring), She now helps buyers and sellers realize their goals of moving in or out of their home! She loves what she does an…
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Classic Replay: Dawkins vs Lennox - the Oxford debate
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In this classic replay Justin interviews Richard Dawkins, John Lennox and audience members following their highly anticipated God debate at Oxford's Natural History Museum in 2008. USA listeners check out our new USA website for resources, updates and to support us: http://www.unbelievable.show Support the show from the rest of the world: https://r…
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When leaders fall. Karen Swallow Prior & RC Sproul Jr on recent high-profile moral failings.
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In recent years, numerous high-profile Christian leaders have resigned following revelations of moral failure, including Carl Lentz, Jerry Falwell Jr and Bill Hybels. Others have posthumously been subject to allegations of sexual misconduct, including Jean Vanier and Ravi Zacharias (an independent investigation is ongoing). Karen Swallow Prior who …
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Brew Strong | Question and Answer Pt. 2
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The questions keep coming in, and the boys keep answering them! Jamil and John go another round with the listeners, as they tackle the latest homebrewing questions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Justin Crossley
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Classic Replay: The Atheist Bus Campaign - Ariane Sherine, Paul Woolley and Hanne Stinson
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Welcome to a new mid-week episode from Unbelievable? bringing you a taste of classic shows from our archive. In this episode from Nov 2008 Justin speaks to Ariane Sherine who created the Atheist Bus Campaign in London. He's also joined by Paul Woolley and Hanne Stinson. For the full show: https://unbelievable.podbean.com/e/unbelievable-1-nov-2008-t…
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Buy Real Estate Investments with out Using ANY of Your OWN Money - April Crossley
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Buying homes to FLIP with out using any of your own money is something you want to learn if you're looking to get into investing in real estate. April Crossley will tell you how to make that all happen!! More about April: My goal is to simplify finding deals and finding money for new investors. These are the two biggest parts of your business. I do…
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Appraisals, Rates and a Look Ahead w/ guest Mark Chaknos
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Mark Chaknos, Broker of Keller Williams Platinum Realty, talks with me about the challenges and the positives of this market. Where is the market going? Election is over, is the awesome market over too? Are interest rates still good? What is happening with Appraisals in this appreciating market? Answers to these questions and more!! :) Keller Willi…
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Intelligent Design on trial. 15 years on from Kitzmiller-Dover – Mike Behe and Joshua Swamidass
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In 2005 a high profile trial saw the Dover School District taken to court for promoting Intelligent Design (ID) as an alternative theory to evolution in classrooms. 15 years on Mike Behe a prominent biochemist and ID advocate who took the stand as a defence witness, talks about what the case meant for the ID movement. Joshua Swamidass is a biologis…
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Was Jesus a great moral teacher or something more? Julian Baggini and Skye Jethani
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Atheist philosopher Julian Baggini and Christian author Skye Jethani discuss whether the teachings of Jesus Christ can be separated from his claims to divinity. For Julian’s new book The Godless Gospel https://www.julianbaggini.com/the-godless-gospel/ For Skye’s new book What’s Wrong With Religion? https://skyejethani.com/ and his podcast The Holy …
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Real Estate Trends and Timing, how it Impacts Strategies and Opportunities - Aaron Norris
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Had the pleasure to speak with Aaron Norris. Aaron’s real estate career started at five years old fixing houses in his father’s flip business. After living in NYC for almost a decade, he joined the family hard money business as a mortgage officer and researcher, producing numerous market timing reports and award-winning resources for the real estat…
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Conversion and de-conversion: Why atheists become Christians and Christians become atheists. Jana Harmon and Joel Furches
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Justin talks to Jana Harmon about her PhD research on adult atheist conversion to Christianity and presents stories from her new ‘Side B Podcast’. Joel Furches, who is researching de-conversion, also joins the conversation. For The Side B Podcast: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-side-b-podcast-jana-harmon-VJUERcA6Fih/ For Joel Furches arti…
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Brew Strong | Question and Answer Pt. 1
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The dynamic duo of brewing is back! Jamil and John answer your questions on homebrewing, commercial brewing, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Justin Crossley
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Is raising kids Christian indoctrination? Hannah Timson and Tim Alford
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Richard Dawkins once said that bringing up children in a particular faith is tantamount to child abuse. We invited humanist Hannah Timson and Christian Tim Alford to discuss this issue. You can find Tim Alford on Twitter and Instagram at @RevTimAlford. Hannah Timson is on Twitter and Instagram at @timmi12345. For more on Limitless, you can connect …
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Should It Stay or Should It Go - Real Estate Tips in the Car w/ Brad
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This is recorded in my car while I'm driving (It's safe I promise) very short tips on Real Estate related topics. This one is all about what stays and what goes when your selling your home!! :) Keep in mind I'm driving so you will hear driving sounds along the way!! :)By Brad Weisman, Realtor
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Prof Alister McGrath answers your Qs on science, faith, doubt, CS Lewis, Dawkins and more
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Oxford professor Alister McGrath recently joined Justin, Lucy and Ruth for a livestream to take listener questions on science and faith and to talk about his new memoir ’Through a Glass Darkly’. For 'Through a Glass Darkly': https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/alister-mcgrath/through-a-glass-darkly/9781529327632/ USA listeners check out our new USA w…
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JP Mortgage Update - Justin Perella from The Mortgage Company
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Justin Perella joins me in an update about the Fall market so far. Interest Rates, Appraisals and Days to close are the hot topics!! Good information if your looking to buy or sell before the end of 2020!By Brad Weisman, Realtor
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Is Critical Race Theory compatible with Christianity? Neil Shenvi & Rasool Berry
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'Critical Race Theory’ is a way of understanding racism through the dynamics of oppressed and oppressor groups. Neil Shenvi believes its worldview is at odds with the Gospel and is concerned at its embrace in evangelical circles. Rasool Berry, teaching pastor at The Bridge Church NYC believes many Christians are overreacting to CRT. While not adopt…
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Should Christians vote for Donald Trump? Eric Metaxas vs David French
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Christian commentator David French debates Christian radio host and author Eric Metaxas on whether Christians should vote for Donald Trump in the US Elections in November. With thanks to John Brown University’s Center for Faith and Flourishing who hosted the debate: https://faith-and-flourishing.org/ USA listeners check out our new USA website for …
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Where is God in all the suffering? Amy Orr-Ewing and Jon Steingard
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Amy Orr-Ewing, co-director of OCCA and author of ‘Where Is God In All The Suffering?’, discusses the problem of pain with Jon Steingard, whose own doubts around Christian faith were triggered by seeing the suffering of children in Uganda. For ‘Where is God in All the Suffering?: https://www.thegoodbook.co.uk/where-is-god-in-all-the-suffering For Jo…
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Brew Strong | Brewing Conversations with Mitch Steele Pt. 2
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It's part two of Jamil's talk with Mitch Steele! The boys chat about numerous brewing topics that impact both homebrewers as well as commercial ones. Things like hop survivables, boil times, and more. It's a great conversation with two of the best brewers around! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Debating Wrath, Sin and Penal Substitution – William Lane Craig and Greg Boyd
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Did God punish Jesus in our place on the cross? William Lane Craig’s new book ‘Atonement and the Death of Christ’ is a major new defence of Penal Substitutionary Atonement. He discusses the doctrine of atonement with Greg Boyd who has been a critic of PSA and an advocate of the Christus Victor view of the cross. Atonement and the Death of Christ: h…
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Brew Strong | Brewing Conversations with Mitch Steele Pt. 1
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Jamil sat down with one of the best brewers around, Mitch Steele, to talk about all aspects of the brewing process. Mitch has been producing great beer for years, and not only did he find the time to write a book on the history of IPA, he also opened his own brewery called New Realm. This show is part one of a two-part series with Mitch. Learn more…
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Stay Connected with Connecticut (Real Estate) - David Lemel Tells All
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My good buddy and fellow Realtor, David Lemel, joins me for some chitter chatter about his market up in Connecticut. They are crazy busy and experiencing many of the things we are here in Pennsylvania. Listen as he walks you through the current market and his predictions for the future of their market. Stay Connected w/ Connecticut!! David runs a t…
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What Does a Roofer, College Football Player and a State Policeman Have in Common?
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What Does a Roofer, College Football Player and a State Policeman Have in Common... they are all part of this author's past, of an awesome new book called Leaving 6 Figures. The Author is John Clidy, who is Keller Williams Regional Director of the Greater PA Region. He shares many of his inner thoughts and what it took for him to leave a career as …
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The Reason For God - Tim Keller debates atheist Norman Bacrac
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In this ‘classic replay’ Justin shares the 2009 radio debate in which New York pastor Tim Keller defended his best-selling book ‘The Reason For God’ opposite UK atheist Norman Bacrac. Tim Keller: https://timothykeller.com/ Norman Bacrac: https://conwayhall.org.uk/speaker/norman-bacrac/ USA Listeners check out our new USA website for exclusive resou…
Take another deep dive into the world of hops with Scott Janish and Jamil! On today's show, Scott talks about hop survivables and how you can use them to build a better beer. We've talked about layering hops before, but it's hard to go much more beyond "well it tastes good this way". Scott and Jamil look into this - and more - on today's show! Lear…
Dry hopping is a great way to add a little more hop character to your beers. But when is the best time to add those hops? Jamil talks with Scott Janish on his experiments with adding dry hops at colder temperatures than we might otherwise think about. Scott has done a lot of research on the subject, and brings the knowledge on this one! Learn more …
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Coronavirus conspiracies, politics and rebel churches – Mark Sayers, AJ Roberts, Ruth Jackson and Lucy Brierley
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Six months on from Justin’s first lockdown show looking at Coronavirus he’s joined again by virologist AJ Roberts from California, Australian church and culture guru Mark Sayers, his wife Rev Lucy Brierley and new Unbelievable? team member Ruth Jackson. They discuss the politics of Coronavirus, conspiracy theories, rebel churches and what the futur…