You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist is a podcast for seekers, dreamers, and questioners that intimately explores the human experience. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. She invites guests from a broad variety of disciplines and many walks of life, including researchers, writers, artists, healers, advocates, inventive outliers, and creative geniuses. Together, they investigate, illuminate, and inspire trans ...
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The Two Cities is a podcast dedicated to Theology, Culture, and Discipleship. Originally beginning as a blog back in 2011 (thetwocities.com), we have extended our eclectic array of theological integration to the world of podcasting. Co-hosts and contributors include: Dr. Amber Bowen, Dr. Josh Carroll, Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Dr. Grace Emmett, Jennifer Guo, Dr. Brandon Hurlbert, Stephanie Kate Judd, Dr. Grace Sangalang Ng, Stanley Ng, Rev. Dr. Chris Porter, Rev. Daniel Parham, Dr. Madison Pie ...
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The Modern Good is a weekly podcast that explores the collision of mental health, pop culture, current events and spirituality. Each episode is built around a cohesive theme the encourages listeners to think critically about the topic while staying solutions-focused. Each guest or teaching topic upholds our core value - BUILD THE WORLD YOU WANT TO LIVE IN - DON'T JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. It is our sincere hope that this show inspires you to take action and get to work rather than wallow in wh ...
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Episode #238 - Christian Dominionism & Nationalism with Dr. Valerie Hobbs
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In this episode we're joined by Dr. Valerie Hobbs (@vhobbs5), Senior Lecturer in the School of English at the University of Sheffield and author of No Love in War: A Story of Christian Nationalism (@MayflyBooks). In this episode we discuss Dr Hobb’s autoethnographic book about growing up in Christian Dominionism and the violence she witnessed and e…
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122. Understanding the Criminal Mind: Audra Worlow on Predators, Psychopaths, & Child Protection
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Audra's firsthand experiences with heinous crimes provide a chilling insight into the lack of guilt and empathy in certain offenders. What drives these individuals to commit such atrocities? How do they navigate the world with a narrow focus on their selfish and sadistic desires, devoid of remorse? As the conversation unfolds, we touch on the impor…
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Episode #237 - The Life of Eugene Peterson with Dr. Winn Collier
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In this episode we're joined by Dr. Winn Collier (@winncollier), Associate Professor of Pastoral Theology and Christian Imagination and Director of the Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary (@westernsem) and author of A Burning in My Bones: The Authorized Biography of Eugene Peterson (@authenticmedia). In …
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121. Helping Parents of ROGD Kids: Emotional Support + Practical Tools with Jane Wise
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Jane Wise is a certified addictions counselor who, like me, provides both individual and group support for parents of ROGD kids. After learning that parents who questioned their children's gender identity were not only lacking in support, but were being called bigots and transphobes just for worrying about their kids, Jane decided to use her skills…
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Episode #236 - The Art of Biography Writing with Lucy S. R. Austen
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In this episode we're joined by Lucy S. R. Austen (@LucySRAusten) writer, editor, and author of the biography Elisabeth Elliot: A Life (@crossway). Over the course of our conversation, we discuss the process of biography writing and how one seeks to tell the story of a complex and influential person like Elisabeth Elliot. We explore the various cul…
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120. Our Boobies, Our Selves: Amy Sousa on Breast Cancer, Mastectomies, & Sex Trait Modification
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My good friend Amy Sousa is a brave and resilient woman presently battling stage 3 breast cancer. We delve into the complex emotions and decisions Amy faces as she navigates her cancer journey. Amy shares her unique perspective on the significance of breasts, challenging societal norms and gender ideology. We explore the impact of cancer on her emb…
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Episode #235 - The Art & Purpose of Life Writing with Dr. Charles Marsh
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CW: suicide and mental health In this episode, we're joined by Dr. Charles Marsh, Commonwealth Professor of Religious Studies and Director of the Project on Lived Theology (@LivedTheology) at the University of Virginia and author of Strange Glory: A Life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer (@AAKnopf) and Evangelical Anxiety: A Memoir (@HarperOneBooks). In this …
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119. Is it a Fetish? MaryCate Delvey Listens to Trans People in Their Own Words to Find Out
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MaryCate Delvey is a female rights activist and satirist. She created the video series “Listen To Trans People,” which exposes the dark nature of transgender ideology in their own words. In this episode, she helps me uncover the disturbing inner worlds of porn-saturated misogynists, incel Redditors, and autogynephiles, shedding light on the fetishi…
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Episode #234 - Sexvangelicals with Jeremiah Gibson and Julia Postema
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In this episode we’re joined by Jeremiah Gibson and Julia Postema, licensed psychotherapists and certified sex therapists based in Utrecht, The Netherlands, hosts a podcast called Sexvangelicals. As we talk about in our discussion with them, their specialization as therapists is helping couples coming out of negative religious backgrounds. In our c…
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118. “Gender Affirming” Therapy: Unpacking the Lies, with Whistleblower Tamara Pietzke, LCSW
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In this episode, I sit down with Tamara Pietzke, a mental health therapist best known for having blown the whistle on gender affirming care this past February in a Free Press article. What has she been up to since then? We discuss the complexities of therapists being pressured to rubber stamp gender identities and recommend medical interventions. T…
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Episode #233 - The Christmaker with Professor James McGrath
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In this episode we’re joined by Prof. James McGrath, who is the Clarence L. Goodwin Chair in New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University and the author of the book that we’re discussing here, Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist (published by Eerdmans). Over the course of our conversation, we talk about biographical details that w…
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117. Detransition, Marriage, Psychedelics and Spirituality with Valerie and LaRell Herbert
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LaRell and Valerie Herbert are a married couple with a very unique story. During their time together, LaRell first believed he was a transgender woman and went through full sex trait modification before awakening to self-acceptance as a man. Join us as we explore their journey through somatic psychology and psychedelic integration. How did their re…
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Episode #232 - Ministers of Propaganda with Dr. Scott Coley
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Scott Coley, who is Lecturer in the Department of Philosophy at Mount St. Mary’s University, and the author of the book we’re discussing in this episode: Ministers of Propaganda: Truth, Power, and the Ideology of the Religious Right (published by Eerdmans). Over the course of our conversation, we talk about the i…
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116. Independence Therapy: Dr. Camilo Ortiz Treats Kids’ Anxiety Through Freedom + Responsibility
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In this episode, I dive into a fascinating conversation with Dr. Camilo Ortiz about a groundbreaking concept he coined as "independence therapy." Dr. Ortiz shares insights on how giving kids age-appropriate responsibilities and freedoms can help them overcome anxiety. We discuss the evolution of this idea from classic exposure therapy to empowering…
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Episode #231 - The Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield with Dr. Sean McGever
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Sean McGever, who is Area Director for Young Life in Phoenix and teaches at Grand Canyon University, and who is the author of Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield (published by IVP). Over the course of our conversation, Dr. McGever informs us about the relationship that …
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115. Black Fatherhood in America Today with Adam B Coleman, Michael DC Bowen & Jeremiah Wallace
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I sit down with three remarkable gentlemen to discuss the complexities of black fatherhood in America. Speaking from their hearts, Adam, Mike and Jeremiah share how it has shaped their characters to embrace the responsibilities, challenges, and blessings of fatherhood. They critically examine societal norms, narratives, and myths that keep black fa…
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Episode #230 – Augustine & The Problem of the Christian Master with Dr. Matthew Elia
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Matthew Elia, who is assistant professor of theology, race, and environment at Saint Louis University, and the author of The Problem of the Christian Master: Augustine in the Afterlife of Slavery (published by Yale University Press). Over the course of our conversation we talk about what Augustine had to say abou…
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114. Breast-Binding in a Bomb Shelter? Maia Poet on Surviving War in the Middle East and Within
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I sit down with Maia Poet, a 24-year-old Israeli-American writer, researcher, and public speaker with an extraordinary story. Maia began identifying as transgender at the tender age of 12 and recently desisted from this identity after living as a man in the Middle East for several years. What led her to this profound change? How did her experiences…
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Episode #229 - The Qu'ran in Conversation with the Bible with Prof. David Pechansky
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In this episode we’re joined by Prof. David Pechansky, who is Professor Emeritus at the University of St. Thomas, and the author of the book we’re discussing in this episode, Solomon and the Ant: The Qu’ran in Conversation with the Bible (published with Cascade). Over the course of our conversation we talk about various thematic parallels that emer…
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113. Mental Fitness & Emotional Resilience with Jake Wiskerchen, Zander Keig & Jason Littlefield
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Many cultural critics have expressed a mounting concern about prevalent attitudes that promote fragile mentalities, potentially crippling a generation and leaving them underprepared for the demands of adult life. Today’s roundtable panel brings together experts in mental health, social work, and social-emotional learning to discuss these concerns. …
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Episode #228 - The Hope in Our Scars with Aimee Byrd
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In this episode we’re joined by Aimee Byrd, who is the author of a number of books, including the one we’re discussing on this episode, The Hope in Our Scars: Finding the Bride of Christ in the Underground of Disillusionment (published with Zondervan). In our conversation, Aimee points to the hope that she has in the midst of the negativity that sh…
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112. How to Communicate Concerns About Gender Clinics: Sidewalk Steve on Skills Activists Need
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Sidewalk Steve earned this nickname from boldly positioning himself on the streets of New Hampshire to discuss what’s wrong with pediatric sex trait modification with hundreds of passers-by. How has an introvert like Steve worked up the courage to speak in public about the most controversial issue of our time, despite fear of cancel culture and eve…
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Episode #227 - Learning to Disagree with Dr. John Inazu
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. John Inazu, who is the Sally D. Danforth Distinguished Professor of Law and Religion at Washington University in St. Louis, and the author of the book that we discuss in this episode, Learning to Disagree: The Surprising Path to Navigating Differences with Empathy and Respect (published by Zondervan). Over the co…
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111. Healing Detransition & Dissociation: Can Therapy Help? Bob Withers, Nicolas Blooms, & Layton
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I’ve brought together a panel of two detransitioners and an elder therapist with many years of experience treating transition regret in psychoanalytic psychotherapy. Together, we explore the barriers to effective psychotherapy for individuals experiencing transition regret and the importance of a relational approach in therapy. But what happens whe…
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Episode #226 - Hurt and Healed by the Church with Ryan George
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CW: sexual and physical abuse, spiritual abuse, grooming, molestation, childhood trauma In this episode we're joined by Ryan George, who is the author of Hurt and Healed by the Church: Redemption and Reconstruction After Spiritual Abuse. During our conversation, Ryan tells us his story, which centers on how his father was an abusive pastor in the I…
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110. The Nature of the Beast of Gender Ideology + Grace as the Antidote in a World of Pain
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Today’s episode is unlike any other. Although I had an entirely different episode planned, something came up recently that needed to be addressed. I said something on social media that hit a nerve for a lot of anguished people, namely, ROGD parents — ironically, the population I am most focused on addressing, and typically have great relationships …
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Episode #225 - The Fundamentals of a Recovering Fundamentalist with Gabriel Gordon
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In this episode we’re joined by Gabriel Gordon, who is a master’s student in Theology at Marquette University and the author of the book that we discuss in this episode, The Fundamentals of a Recovering Fundamentalist: Reorienting towards the True, Good, and Beautiful (Wipf & Stock). In our conversation, Gabriel talks about how he deconstructed his…
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109. ROGD Survival Guide: Strategic Advice for Concerned Parents of Trans-Identified Youth
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In a rare solo episode, I reflect on a few key themes that have emerged during the course of my work consulting with with parents who are worried about losing their kids to the gender craze. Join me as I share insights on how to help families facing this challenge. When is it actually a bad idea to tell your kids about the harms of sex trait modifi…
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Episode #224 - The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism with Dr. Daniel Hummel
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In this episode we’re talking about Dispensationalism with Dr. Daniel Hummel, who is the Director of the Lumen Center and Upper House in Madison, WI, a research fellow in the History Department at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the host of the UpWords podcast, and the author of The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battl…
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108. #Babygate 2024: The Heretical Notion That Mothers Matter | Amy Sousa, Laura Haynes, & Robin Atkins
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In response to a viral tweet that sparked a heated debate about the natural bond between mothers and babies, I’ve brought together a panel of wise women to delve into the controversial topic of motherhood, daycare, and child-rearing in the 21st century. My guests share personal experiences and expertise in reproductive mental health, child developm…
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Episode #223 - Paul and the Resurrection of Israel with Dr. Jason Staples
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In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Jason Staples, who is Asst Teaching Professor in the Department of Philosophy and Religious Studies at North Carolina State University, and the author of The Idea of Israel (CUP) as well as the more recent book that we’re discussing in this episode, Paul and the Resurrection of Israel (also with CUP). Over the c…
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107. Exposing Gender Malpractice: Mia Hughes on the WPATH Files, Medical Ethics, & Informed Consent
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Mia Hughes, author of the recently released WPATH Files report, joins me today to discuss the medical scandal of our era. Together, we uncover the shocking revelations from the leaked files, exposing the mistreatment of vulnerable individuals seeking gender transition. We explore how the official-sounding “World Professional Association for Transge…
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Episode #222 - Gospel Media with Dr. Nicholas Elder
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Nicholas Elder, who is Associate Professor of New Testament at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary and the author of the book that we discuss in this episode, Gospel Media: Reading, Writing, and Circulating Jesus Traditions (published by Eerdmans). Over the course of our conversation, Dr. Elder talks a…
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106. Earth Day with Derrick Jensen: on Ecological Grief and Reconnecting with Our Wild Nature
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This Earth Day, I’d like to honor the importance of our connection to the natural world by welcoming the insightful Derrick Jensen, an author and environmental activist whose work has profoundly influenced me from an early age. We explore the stark contrast between our knowledge of commercial jingles and movie stars versus our understanding of the …
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Episode #221 - Pilgrim Journey with Professor Curtis Freeman
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In this episode we’re joined by Professor Curtis Freeman, who is Ruth D. Duncan Director of the Baptist House of Studies and Research Professor of Theology and Baptist Studies at Duke Divinity School, and he’s the author of Pilgrim Letters, and the book that we’re excited to discuss in this episode, Pilgrim Journey. In our conversation we talk abou…
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105. Young Men Crying for Help: Dr. Joseph Burgo on Shame, Narcissism, Autism & Autogynephilia
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Today I welcome the esteemed Dr. Joseph Burgo to discuss the psychological crisis of males who find refuge in a trans identity. Along the way, we explore myriad contributing factors, from shame, narcissism, and autogynephilia; to rising rates of autism and unlimited access to increasingly obscene internet pornography; as well as gender roles, norms…
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Episode #220 - Multilingual Church with Dr. Jonathan Downie
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Jonathan Downie (PhD, Heriot-Watt University), who is a Consultant Interpreter and Researcher in Multilingual Churches, and the author of Multilingual Church: Strategies for Making Disciples in All Languages (w/ William Carey Publishing). Over the course of our conversation, Dr. Downie articulates the importance …
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104. Why I Stopped Doing Therapy and Switched to Consulting (For Now) - a Solo Interlude
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In this rare solo episode, I delve into personal decisions that have recently shaped my career path, shedding light on the challenges and triumphs that have led me to where I am today, including the impact of stress on chronic illness, and the difficult choice to step back from therapy to prioritize my well-being. But why did I choose consulting ov…
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Episode #219 - Jesus Was A Refugee with Dr. Barnabas Aspray
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Dr. Barnabas Aspray is Assistant Professor of Systematic Theology at St. Mary's Seminary and University in Baltimore, MD and the author of a recent article in the academic journal, Modern Theology, called "Jesus Was A Refugee: Unpacking the Theological Implications." In this episode Dr. Aspray addresses the topic of the refugee crisis around the wo…
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103. Truth, Hope, & Mental Health | Michael DC Bowen, Pamela Garfield-Jaeger & Soad Tabrizi
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Is shame always destructive, or can it foster growth? Does being compassionate require that we affirm every belief or validate every emotion? When are psychiatric diagnoses helpful or harmful? Is it better to strive for race-awareness or a color-blind society? Should social norms be challenged or reinforced? What is the role of hope in fostering ch…
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Episode #218 - Trauma & The Trinity with Rev. Dr. Scott Harrower
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CW: violence against children, assault, domestic partner violence, adverse religious experiences, suicide Rev. Dr. Scott Harrower is Lecturer in Christian Thought at Ridley College and an ordained minister in the Anglican Church. In this episode, Revd Dr. Harrower offers a theological response to trauma through the doctrine of the Trinity–reflected…
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102. Propaganda Myths of the Gender Cult; Resources for Parents & Educators, with Justine Deterling
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In what ways is gender ideology cult-like? What are its core foundational myths, and how can concerned citizens challenge them? Today’s guest, Justine Deterling, founded the LGB watchdog organization Gender Health Query to create resources for parents and educators to address these concerns. In this episode, we discuss the cult-like dynamics of gen…
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Episode #217 - Trauma-Informed Evangelism with Dr. Elaine Heath and Dr. Charles Kiser
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CW: adverse religious experiences Dr. Charles Kiser is a pastor and theologian with Storyline Christian Community in Dallas, TX, and Dr. Elanie Heath is the former Dean of Duke Divinity School and the author of The Mystic Way of Evangelism and Loving the Hell Out of Ourselves (and Others). In this episode, we talk about Dr. Kiser’s and Dr. Heath’s …
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101. Making Meaning, Finding Wisdom: Kim O, Matt Osborne, & Benjamin the Dream Wizard
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Wise decision-making often requires that we grapple with notions of good and evil. Fields such as history, spirituality, philosophy, and psychology all help orient our moral compass. Yet despite so much access to information, today’s youth seem to lack the grounding principles needed to navigate life's challenges. How is the modern world's existent…
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Episode #216 - Trauma-Informed Preaching with Dr. Matthew Kim
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CW: murder, depression Dr. Matthew D. Kim is the Professor of Practical Theology; Holder of the Hubert H. and Gladys S. Raborn Chair of Pastoral Leadership at Truett Seminary at Baylor University. In this episode, Dr. Kim introduces us to his book Preaching to People in Pain (Baker Academic, 2021) and his broader philosophies around trauma informed…
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100. How to Rescue Your Child From the Gender Cult: Gabrielle Clark on Desistance Coaching
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Gabrielle helped her daughter escape the cult. Now, as a Desistance Coach, she helps other parents find ways to reach their ideologically captured children too. Meanwhile, my career has taken a similar direction, as I’ve devoted a significant portion of my energy toward helping parents of youth with Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) as a communic…
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Episode #215 - PIVOT with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
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CW: adverse religious experiences, church-related trauma, narcissistic leaders Dr. Scot McKnight is Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary and Laura Barringer is an author and a Kindergarten Teacher. In this episode, they summarize their two recent books (A Church Called Tov and Pivot). In the first part, in the light of abuse related to W…
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99. Is Therapeutic Neutrality a Thing of the Past? with Christine Sefein and David Teachout
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In my second returning guests group chat, I delve into the complex world of therapy with colleagues David Teachout and Christine Sefein. We explore the concept of therapeutic neutrality and its relevance in today's therapy landscape. Is therapy dead? How are therapists able to maintain neutrality in an age of biases and cultural influences? And wha…
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Episode #214 - Trauma & Moral Injury with Dr. Brian Powers
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CW: wartime violence, civilian casualities, suicide Dr. Brian Powers is Vann Fellow in Christianity and the Armed Forces and Executive Director of the International Centre for Moral Injury at Durham University. In this episode Dr. Powers defines the term “moral injury” and helps us to understand some of the applications of this term with respect to…
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98. Trans to Detrans: A Graphic Novel Journey from Self-Hate to Self-Compassion, with Nicolas Blooms
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In this episode, I sit down with Nicholas Blooms, a detransitioner, artist, and creator of a unique graphic novel. Nicholas shares his profound journey of detransitioning, delving into the spiritual and emotional aspects of reclaiming his sense of self and finding a sustainable, embodied way of living. I explain my current model of how gender dysph…
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