With That Being Said is a long conversation between friends, edited into weekly episodes that give you 2 therapists' take on life, love, and everything in between. Hosted by Esther Boykin, LMFT and Erica Turner, MS, this podcast is dedicated to giving you fun, smart, relatable, interesting, honest & actionable insights on the things that matter most in this life. Every episode is designed to help you learn a little more about living a happier life and having healthier relationships. Most episodes are not about therapy but Esther and Erica always bring a fresh and honest perspective on therapists' really think about off the clock. Esther and Erica hope that this peek inside the conversations between therapists will shift the perception of therapy and therapists as something to be secretive about to something totally worth sharing. The show features guest experts and lots of laughter because the best conversations are the one's we have with our friends. So with that being said, isn't it time for you to join the conversation?