Ep. 19: Simple Guiding Truth on a Historic Path

Passing The Torch

Summary: On this episode of Passing the Torch, Host Martin Foster introduces someone who understands deeply that we ignore history at our peril - Matt Ziemann, which is why the conversation in this episode of Passing the Torch is so robust. A love of history cultivated early in his life has been a guiding light throughout a remarkable career. The discussion touches on the many ways in which history gives context and how understanding decision-making from an experiential point of view can completely change the way we judge others. Enjoy this fun conversation, which includes everything from interesting fun facts about the Battle of Britain to what combo of historical figures would make for the best dinner party. You’ll also find out what popular adventure character (Hint: Indy, for short) might make the best model on which to base Matt’s life story!

Key Takeaways:

• The big picture: Belief that history is important to good leadership and decision-making
• Person in history who was inspiring
• Sharing a simple, guiding truth: We can choose to learn from our own mistakes or learn from what others can teach us through experiences they’ve already had.
• History provides a template for the many ways in which human decision-making and motivation intersect.
• A project interviewing legendary pilots as a kid gave Matt a window into the humanity and tactical brilliance behind the airmen he idolized.
• Realizing that everyone has a story set Matt on the path uncovering the real story behind notable aviation figures, starting with Robin Olds, a Vietnam era “triple ace” fighter pilot who agreed to be interviewed as did many others.
• Thoughts about two historical figures whose critical decisions were made based on a depth of knowledge about mistakes made in the past: Dwight D. Eisenhower and Robin Olds. Both were committed historians with a tremendous grasp of military campaigns through the ages.
• If Matt could time travel back to witness any moment in all of history he would be most interested to witness the crucifixion of Jesus; in terms of air power history, he would most like to revisit the Battle of Britain.
• Significance of the Battle of Britain and how it’s relevant to modern air campaigns.
• Three dinner guests from all of history:
• • Jesus Christ
  • Dwight D. Eisenhower
  • Robin Olds
• A deeper dive into exactly why learning about past failures is so important to progressing with wisdom through current events.
• Hindsight is 20/20 so you can’t judge people for making choices based on their limited experience and information they had at the time. Pearl Harbor is an example of how easy it is to misinterpret what’s on the horizon.

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