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Low/No Alcohol Wines w/ BevZero's Debbie Novograd & Kayla Winter

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The low and no alcohol wine space is growing rapidly. Enough so that a company specializing in spinning cone technology to reduce alcohol, ConeTech, changed its name to BevZero. Debbie Novograd, CEO, and Kayla Winter, Director of Product Services & Winemaking, discuss the technology, the challenges of producing good no alcohol wine, and the market for low and no alcohol wines.


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Detailed Show Notes:

Alcohol reduction technologies

  • Reverse Osmosis - pass wine through filters, removes water and alcohol, can only bring down abv by a few % per pass, requires multiple passes to get to 0% (more taken out of the wine)
  • Spinning Cones - creates thin film vacuum distillation with heat added (37C) to extract alcohol w/o cooking wine, only spends a few seconds in still

BevZero history

  • Founded in 1991 as ConeTech as a tool in the winemaker’s toolbelt to adjust alcohol to hit a “sweet spot”
  • Before 2018, >14% abv wines had a higher excise tax, alcohol reduction used to bring wines below 14%

Spinning Cone technology

  • Can pull off different substances with different molecular weights (more than alcohol if desired)
  • Small units (1,000L/hour) start at $1.5M
  • GoLo tech starts at $500-650k

Definitions

  • Low alcohol wine: 5.5-10% abv
  • No alcohol wine: 0-0.5% abv

Uses of technology by geography

  • Europe - 99% for 0% abv products
  • USA - until 2 years ago - 90% for alc adjustment, 10% for low/no alc
  • USA - 2022 - 30% low/no alc -> 50% in 2023
  • Very large players doing adjustment
  • No alc - mostly startups, recently, big players interested

Market Sizing

  • Non-alc space $2B in 2021 -> forecasts range from $3.5 - 6B over next 10 years
  • IWSR projects no/low growing faster (7% CAGR) vs. alcohol (1% CAGR)
  • Wine has been slower growth
  • North America no alc wine market - $450M in 2021
  • Low alc mainly US (bigger than no alc) and Australia
  • No alc beer - 75% of total space

Producing no alc wine challenging

  • Need suitable grape varieties for base wine - fruit-forward and aromatic work best
  • Acid, color, tannin get concentrated
  • Sparkling does well; bubbles mask the lack of weight (bubbles through forced carbonation)
  • No alc is an FDA product - can add more ingredients (e.g., natural flavors, mouthfeel agents), must have a nutritional panel
  • Initial no alc wines used bad base wine and added lots of sugar to compensate
  • Many sweeten with grape juice concentrate, but trend is towards less sweet (now ~high 20g/L sugar)

Price points

  • Original products were $5-6/bottle, now up to $30/bottle
  • Majority are in the $10-15/bottle range, largest customer does still & sparkling wine in the $25-30/bottle range

Consumer use cases

  • Main segment (70%) - people who still drink alcohol, drink both low and no alc wines
  • Abstainers a small %
  • Gen Z pushing growth
  • Low alc targets lower calorie, lower carb segment
  • Meets a ritualistic need that non-alc fills

Branding and sales

  • No alc startups sell DTC, leveraging social media marketing
  • Low alc has some big players - 50/50 develop new brands, some use existing
  • Specialty online retailers for low/no alc

Higher quality products will drive future growth

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The low and no alcohol wine space is growing rapidly. Enough so that a company specializing in spinning cone technology to reduce alcohol, ConeTech, changed its name to BevZero. Debbie Novograd, CEO, and Kayla Winter, Director of Product Services & Winemaking, discuss the technology, the challenges of producing good no alcohol wine, and the market for low and no alcohol wines.


Don’t forget to support the show on Patreon and get access to our backlog of great episodes and show notes!


Detailed Show Notes:

Alcohol reduction technologies

  • Reverse Osmosis - pass wine through filters, removes water and alcohol, can only bring down abv by a few % per pass, requires multiple passes to get to 0% (more taken out of the wine)
  • Spinning Cones - creates thin film vacuum distillation with heat added (37C) to extract alcohol w/o cooking wine, only spends a few seconds in still

BevZero history

  • Founded in 1991 as ConeTech as a tool in the winemaker’s toolbelt to adjust alcohol to hit a “sweet spot”
  • Before 2018, >14% abv wines had a higher excise tax, alcohol reduction used to bring wines below 14%

Spinning Cone technology

  • Can pull off different substances with different molecular weights (more than alcohol if desired)
  • Small units (1,000L/hour) start at $1.5M
  • GoLo tech starts at $500-650k

Definitions

  • Low alcohol wine: 5.5-10% abv
  • No alcohol wine: 0-0.5% abv

Uses of technology by geography

  • Europe - 99% for 0% abv products
  • USA - until 2 years ago - 90% for alc adjustment, 10% for low/no alc
  • USA - 2022 - 30% low/no alc -> 50% in 2023
  • Very large players doing adjustment
  • No alc - mostly startups, recently, big players interested

Market Sizing

  • Non-alc space $2B in 2021 -> forecasts range from $3.5 - 6B over next 10 years
  • IWSR projects no/low growing faster (7% CAGR) vs. alcohol (1% CAGR)
  • Wine has been slower growth
  • North America no alc wine market - $450M in 2021
  • Low alc mainly US (bigger than no alc) and Australia
  • No alc beer - 75% of total space

Producing no alc wine challenging

  • Need suitable grape varieties for base wine - fruit-forward and aromatic work best
  • Acid, color, tannin get concentrated
  • Sparkling does well; bubbles mask the lack of weight (bubbles through forced carbonation)
  • No alc is an FDA product - can add more ingredients (e.g., natural flavors, mouthfeel agents), must have a nutritional panel
  • Initial no alc wines used bad base wine and added lots of sugar to compensate
  • Many sweeten with grape juice concentrate, but trend is towards less sweet (now ~high 20g/L sugar)

Price points

  • Original products were $5-6/bottle, now up to $30/bottle
  • Majority are in the $10-15/bottle range, largest customer does still & sparkling wine in the $25-30/bottle range

Consumer use cases

  • Main segment (70%) - people who still drink alcohol, drink both low and no alc wines
  • Abstainers a small %
  • Gen Z pushing growth
  • Low alc targets lower calorie, lower carb segment
  • Meets a ritualistic need that non-alc fills

Branding and sales

  • No alc startups sell DTC, leveraging social media marketing
  • Low alc has some big players - 50/50 develop new brands, some use existing
  • Specialty online retailers for low/no alc

Higher quality products will drive future growth

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