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Talking about money is hard. All over the world, people are taught never to talk about money, politics, sex or religion in polite company. On 50 Fires: A Podcast About Money and Meaning from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines, host and financial conversationalist Carl Richards will remove money from that list by having frank, funny, and often difficult conversations about money - the kind we were all told not to have! - with guests from all walks of life. In each episode, Carl will i ...
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This Morning Walk

Alex Elle + Libby DeLana

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This Morning Walk podcast invites you to experience the transformative power of a simple walk, now part of Blind Nil Audio from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines. Join hosts Alex Elle and Libby DeLana as they share the lessons they’ve learned on their walking paths, both individually and together. Alex - A New York Times BestSelling Author and writing coach living in DC with her husband and daughters - and Libby - a Creative Director based on both coasts with grown children - starte ...
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New York Times Bestselling author Joanna Gaines invites guests - including podcast-reluctant Chip Gaines - to discuss her new book, The Stories We Tell. Filled with the same wit and hard-won wisdom you expect from the stars of Fixer Upper and Magnolia founders, this four-episode series shines a light on the vulnerable side of Jo as she speaks candidly about doubt and belief, shame and acceptance, and finding strength in self-discovery. Jo writes, “Earlier this year, I wrote down my story—all ...
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Shannah Game and Carl have one important thing in common: they both love talking about money. Shannah, a Certified Financial Planner and Trauma of Money Specialist has been talking about money for a long time. As host of the podcast Everyone’s Talkin’ Money, Shannah’s goal is to help people see their money as a tool they can use to create they want…
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Good friends Liz Paley and Amanda Hesser join Libby to discuss their recent completion of The Great Saunter - a walk that covers the entire island of Manhattan in one day. The Great Saunter is a daylong walk that explores Manhattan’s 32-mile shoreline, visiting more than 20 parks and promenades of Manhattan. Liz and Amanda talk about the history of…
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The impact David Booth has had on your financial life is profound, whether you realize it or not. David is the co-founder of Dimensional Fund Advisors, a firm that fundamentally changed the way we make everyday decisions about practical investing and money. David knew the future of investing would depend on data, so in 1981 he moved a noisy, hot, r…
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Libby welcomes Photographer, Podcaster, and Artist Dario Calmese to discuss abundance and its connection to curiosity. They explore how curiosity leads to the discovery of new ideas and experiences, and how abundance is an artifact of that curiosity. Dario and Libby also discuss the concept of walking as a creative act and its ability to access dif…
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Catherine Bailey, co-owner of Heath Ceramics, discusses the journey of the company and the importance of preserving its soul and values. Libby and Catherine explore the design philosophy of Heath, which combines elegance and utility, and the democratization of high design that company co-founder Edith Heath helped to create in the 20th Century. The…
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50 Fires returns with new episodes! Carl gets deep on money and what it means with Index Pioneer David Booth, Bestselling Author Greg McKeown, Meditation Guru Sharon Salzberg, and many more*: June 26: Dimensional Co-Founder David Booth July 03: Host of Everyone’s Talkin’ Money Shannah Game July 10: World Series Champion Dexter Fowler July 17: Bests…
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Alex and Libby catch up in a conversation that explores self-worth, breaks down negative self-talk, and challenges future aspirations (they also try to figure out how to finally open their own tea shop together…someday). Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @parkhere…
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Fellow Walk Star Silas Grant joins Libby to share his journey of transformation through walking. “I started my walk five years ago, in June of 2019. Around that time, my wife and I had our daughter and I was at home with her on paternity leave. At the time I was teetering around close to 300 pounds. I had a couple of health scares - so I took my da…
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Libby welcomes two of her closest walking partners - Cheryl Richardson and Beth Platow - to the show this week for a conversation about friendship, joy, self-care, and a sense of belonging. Cheryl Richardson is a pioneer in the practice of self-care and New York Times bestselling author of multiple books on the subject, and Beth Platow is an author…
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Libby welcomes her dear friend Becca Skinner to discuss the loss of Becca's dog and walking companion, Veda. They discuss how Becca established trust and exploration with Veda during their walks, how she’s dealt with Veda’s passing by temporarily stopping her walking practice, and picking it up again after learning how to build trust with a new fou…
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Libby welcomes Nadya Okamoto, the co-Founder of August, a lifestyle brand working to reimagine periods to be powerful. This episode is an invitation to reflect on the shame that we as a society have put on menstruation and how we think and talk about it. Through August, Nadya encourages open conversations about periods and the importance of inclusi…
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Libby welcomes author and artist Katrina Rodabaugh to discuss the intersection of walking, creativity, and motherhood. Katrina’s work is focused on the overlap of sustainability, craft, and design, which mostly means that she mends things: Jeans, sweaters, our old farmhouse, and more. After taking one of her classes on mending, Libby met Katrina an…
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50 Fires is taking a very short break to gear up for Season 2 with even more meaningful conversations about money. In this quick episode, Carl invites you to kindle your own enlightening discussions around money with a spouse, family member, or dear friend, and offers 5 simple, yet impactful steps to start these conversations: Look for time and spa…
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Exciting news is afoot! As Alex has secures a publisher for her next book, she and Libby take some time to catch up and reflect on the process of writing, potential themes for the new book, and plans for the upcoming Summer. Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @park…
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Author Elissa Altman joins Libby to discuss her practice of walking, writing, and the themes of her books, including Motherland, which explores her complicated relationship with her mother. She also talks about her upcoming book, On Permission: A Manifesto For Writers, Artists, and Dreamers, which delves into the concept of finding permission in cr…
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Carl welcomes journalist, writer, surfer, climber, father and husband Daniel Duane to reflect on a life and career guided by passionate pursuits and what happens when that career suddenly seems unviable. The conversation raises questions about the meaning of a simpler life and how to navigate the complexities of money in the present as the cost of …
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Podcaster, Author, and Financial Journalist Farnoosh Torabi discusses the impact of her parents’ approach to money growing up as a first generation Iranian family in Massachusetts, and how the gender dynamics of their relationship impacted her at an early age. She reflects on how her childhood experiences shaped her perception of money and the impo…
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Libby and Alex catch up on various topics that have emerged during recent walks. They talk about the importance of paying attention to details in life and the process of letting go and embracing change. They also touch on Alex's upcoming book and the emotions that often come when working with new collaborators. Keep in touch: https://www.thismornin…
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Comedian Pete Holmes reflects on his relationship with money and how it relates to his sense of freedom, creativity, and play. In this wide ranging conversation, Carl and Pete explore how money impacts our anxiety, and the role that spirituality plays in helping to reduce that tension. From Pete’s early days in standup comedy, to his eventual succe…
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Alex and Libby celebrate two major milestones together - the release of Alex’s fragrance Heal The Way and Libby getting to write a book about her walking practice and the steps she’s taken to make it a reality. Along the way, they emphasize the importance of enrolling supportive friends in the process of celebrating our triumphs and sharing good ne…
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On this week’s episode of 50 Fires, Carl keeps things in the family by having a discussion about money with his oldest daughter, Lindsay Richards. Lindsay is a 27-year old finance professional living in New York City, and as the oldest of 4 kids, she has a lot of perspective on how her parents handled money as she and her siblings grew up. From her…
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Libby and Alex share a recent walk taken together on a recent visit to Libby’s home in Massachusetts. Alex’s Essay “Healing Through Disappointment”: https://alexelle.substack.com/p/healing-through-disappointment Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby Instagram: @parkhere Blind Ni…
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Hal Hershfield is a leading expert on the psychology of making decisions, but that doesn’t mean that he always makes the right decisions about money, which should be reassuring for us all to hear. A Professor of Marketing, Behavioral Decision Making, and Psychology at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, Hal joins Carl to discuss some of his earli…
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Carl takes a look back on moments from the first 20 episodes of the show, and highlights some moments that you may have missed. Celebrity Chef and Food Network Star Maneet Chauhan reflects on growing up in India and how she never compared what she had to her peers (ie - life before Instagram)! Musician Lukas Nelson reveals how he writes music that …
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Alex’s 16-year old daughter sits down for a special episode of This Morning Walk. With Libby and Alex, she reflects on this period of her life with a level of insight and wisdom that is beyond her years, revealing how she uses journaling as a tool for self-reflection and growth, the necessity of setting personal boundaries as a safeguard for authen…
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Libby shares her personal journey of discovering the missing piece in her life 12 years ago: walking. What started as a desire to simply get outside ultimately became so much more. In this special extended ‘Walking Journal’, Libby highlights the moments in life that led her to start her practice at the age of 50, and commemorates some of the milest…
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It’s not a secret that a elementary and secondary school educators are notoriously underpaid, and in this episode, Educator Jonathan Santos Silva discusses how he’s pursued his career in education despite any and all financial pressures. Throughout this important conversation, Jonathan and Carl ultimately discuss the role of money as an expression …
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Alex and Libby discuss the concept of being the “strong” friend and the unintended pressure that can often come with it. They explore the importance of setting boundaries and clearly communicating our capacity in relationships and also emphasize seeking reciprocity and mutual support when needed. The conversation highlights the significance of ackn…
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In Part 2 with Morgan and Gretchen Housel, host Carl Richards unpacks the difference between wants and necessities (ie - sometimes flying in Business class is essential in order to effectively do what you’ve been hired to do) . They also reveal that while they have disagreements about some things, money has never really been one of them. And the ex…
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Description If you’ve spent any time in finance, you’ll know that Morgan Housel is The New York Times Bestselling Author of The Psychology of Money and the newly released Same As Ever: Timeless Lessons on Risk, Opportunity, and Living a Good Life. But today, you’ll get to hear him like you never have before…in conversation with his wife Gretchen. I…
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Light Watkins is a bestselling author of four books, including “Travel Light”, as well as an accomplished meditation teacher. One day a few years ago, he and Libby met over a cup of Chai (what else?) and connected over his nomadic lifestyle and the concept of spiritual minimalism. On today’s episode of This Morning Walk, he explores the idea of ext…
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Libby reflects on turning 62 and the lessons she has learned throughout her life. She and Alex explore the importance of looking forward to the future no matter what your age, and the importance of letting go and making room for what truly lights you up. Their conversation then delves into the challenges of receiving loving compliments and the tran…
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Elizabeth Poett is a seventh generation cattle rancher, born and raised on Rancho San Julian, her family's historic 14,000-acre cattle ranch on California's Central Coast near Santa Barbara. On this episode of 50 Fires, Elizabeth reflects on the importance of embracing uncertainty as a rancher, a career where every day is different, and unpredictab…
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Eduardo Garcia shares his journey as a chef and how food has played a significant role in his self-discovery, and ultimately his recovery after a near-death experience. Eduardo reflects with Libby and Alex on the lessons he learned during his long healing process and how he navigates life in a new capacity through trusting that he’s walking on the …
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As the Head Coach of Baylor Men’s Basketball, Scott Drew has the ability to talk about money on his own behalf, as well as all of the young athletes he gets to coach and mentor each and every year. Carl and Coach Drew talk about the financial pressures many players face today, how he tries to instill good financial lessons in them before they leave…
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Carl’s guest this week holds one of the more unique relationships with money you will ever hear. Jamie is a diagnosed psychopath, but the word doesn’t mean what you think. Psychopathy is a neurological disorder, similar to narcissistic personality disorder, and as you’ll soon discover, it has allowed Jamie to treat money with a logic that we could …
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Get ready for a freewheeling conversation on this week’s episode of This Morning Walk! Alex and Libby kick things off with one of their favorite shared loves - tea! - why Libby is giving up oat milk, which leads to the topic of glucose monitoring and the health insights it provides, even as it relates to walking. The conversation concludes with a r…
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Libby and Alex welcome fellow WalkStar Caitlin Patrick as shares her journey of starting a walking practice and how it has evolved into a spiritual and healing practice. She discusses the challenges she faced when her beloved grandmother suddenly passed in 2023, and the profound impact walking had on her during that season of grief and loss. Caitli…
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Carl welcomes Dave Goetsch, comedy writer and co-executive producer of 'The Big Bang Theory' for a conversation about navigating the uncertainty of Hollywood. Dave discusses the importance of resilience - financial, emotional, and mental - throughout his career. Dave shares his firsthand experiences with financial crises, canceled shows, and the pr…
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Josh Brown is a financial advisor known for his insights on CNBC and as the co-host of "The Compound and Friends" podcast with Michael Batnick. He’s had thousands of conversations about money over the years, but none quite like this one. Josh offers a rare, personal glimpse into the moments that molded his financial perspective and approach to life…
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Libby and Alex welcome fellow Walkstar and breathwork coach Jamila Reddy as she shares her journey through the path of grief and healing. Jamila shares how she cultivates peace and joy amidst loss and reminds us that if grief is inevitable, beauty, joy and healing should be, as well. Her vulnerability paves the way for a conversation on intentional…
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Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez of the musical duo Johnnyswim open up about the meaning of money in their creative partnership and marriage. Money disagreements are a part of any relationship, but it's how you work through them to forge a unified financial life, and throughout their career, Abner and Amanda have prioritized creative control and fin…
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What’s the word that will guide you in 2024? This episode features walking journals from fellow Walkstars sharing their intentions for the year, including Joanne from Mississippi, who finds solace and purpose in 'growth' through gardening and walking; Andrea in Atlanta, as she holds 'safety' close, and Jeremy in Kathmandu, who cherishes 'gratitude'…
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As the calendar flips to 2024, Libby and Alex invite you to join in embracing a unique approach to resolutions—one that involves selecting a word or feeling to guide your steps in the year ahead. We’d like to hear what you intend to feel in 2024 for a future episode of This Morning Walk. Send a 1 minute audio walking journal to podcast@thismorningw…
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Carl invites his wife, Cori, to have a conversation about money that’s been decades in the making. 28 years into their relationship, Carl and Cori are still learning about each other–especially when it comes to money. In this intimate episode, Carl and Cori break down decades-long misconceptions about one another, assumptions they've made but rarel…
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Libby and Alex are joined by actress, podcast host for the OWN Network, and fellow Walkstar Ashley Blaine Featherson Jenkins. Ashley opens up about the role walking plays in her life, how it’s helped her find peace from body dysmorphia, and how the profoundness of walking can be traced back to her ancestors. Be sure to stick around to the end of th…
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It’s easy to celebrate momentous occasions and achievements in life, but on this episode, Alex and Libby reflect on celebrating the smaller moments in life, as well as being present in the smooth-sailing moments, not just in times of chaos. Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorningwalk Alex Instagram: @alex_elle Libby …
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Being a successful actor is no easy feat, and learning how to navigate the tumultuous waves of the entertainment industry’s financial landscape takes discipline and even frugality. Actor Dean shares how his early obsession with saving money molded his successful acting career. Way before he landed the role of Hank on Breaking Bad, he understood the…
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Bestselling children’s book author Roda Ahmed joins Libby and Alex to discuss what she’s walking through in the wake of her eldest daughter’s move to college, and how she prioritizes celebrating important milestones for those who are most important to her. Visit https://www.rodaworld.com/ and https://www.hightreepublishing.com/ to check out Roda’s …
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Gina Yashere’s career in comedy is a result of sheer resilience, determination, and…budgeting. As a standup comedian and co-creator of Bob Hearts Abishola on CBS, she’s come a long way from her upbringing as a second generation Nigerian immigrant in London. Growing up, her mother essentially gave her two career options - doctor or engineer. After b…
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