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The Presumption

The Presumption Pod

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The Presumption is the official podcast of high-profile criminal defense attorney and media personality Sara Azari and acclaimed criminal trial lawyer Jim Griffin. With over 55 years of aggregate courtroom experience in state and federal courts from coast to coast, Sara and Jim provide listeners and viewers with in-depth analysis of the riveting criminal cases that make headlines and those that should make headlines. The podcast will explore the role and impact of media on the presumption of ...
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Gross Lonely Boys

Andrew Clarkston, Danny Goodwin, Enzo Priesnitz, Body Tape Intl.

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Austin's Grossest Boys of Comedy (Andrew Clarkston, Danny Goodwin, & Enzo Priesnitz) slime off, post up, and culture jam the top pop.
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Whether you're looking for inspiration, entertainment, or simply a good story to pass the time, La Storia (The Story) Podcast has something for everyone. Tune in and discover the extraordinary stories of ordinary people – you might just find a piece of yourself in their story. Enjoy!
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Heart of the Matter

Partnership to End Addiction

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Heart of the Matter with Elizabeth Vargas is a production from Partnership to End Addiction. Heart of the Matter is an interview series that gives guests the opportunity to share their personal, candid stories about addiction. This podcast offers a space to open up about addiction, substance use and mental health, to share the ways in which people are shifting their narrative – in their own relationships and across communities – to support the cause of ending addiction in our country. Worrie ...
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The Mash Stories Podcast showcased stories from our competition's shortlist. It no longer posts new episodes, but please enjoy some stories from our archives! Our writers take three unlikely words and turn them into an absorbing tale of 500 words. The winners receive $100, also payable in bitcoin. Mash Stories also offers a blog filled with tips for setting your pen to paper in the first place. We provide a podcast that narrates all of our competitions’ shortlisted stories.
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This week Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Stephen Cobb. The two discuss the relevance and power of neuroimaging in the courtroom, as well as what the process entails and produces. In this episode, they discuss: What is neuroimaging and why criminal defense lawyers should pursue it An explanation of SPECT and FMRI Intriguing examples showing …
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This week, Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Dr. Elliot Atkins. Dr. Atkins is the author of the chapter entitled “Working with the Expert: From the Perspective of Experts” in the upcoming 2nd edition of Elizabeth’s book, Representing People with Mental Disabilities published by the American Bar Association. In this episode, Dr. Atkins and Eliz…
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In this continued conversation, Sara and Jim are up close and personal with Chris Cuomo who shares about his vast coverage of the Natalie Holloway murder and Van her Sloot; serial killers including Rifkin; and the Menendez Brothers: did Chris change his mind about their defense or have the times changed? Chris dives deep into how the media chooses …
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Sara and Jim sit with veteran journalist, Chris Cuomo. Chris shares his vast experience covering crime stories over decades. He explains the fascination with crime, including with Murdaugh and the Gilgo killer, the need for transparency, the presumption in the court of law and public opinion, and so much more. Sara presses Chris on whether he reall…
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In this episode, Elizabeth Kelley interviews Criminal Defense Lawyer Marcia G. Shein. The two discuss essential components of good mental health evaluations, how an attorney can be particularly sensitive to red flags, and practical aspects for newer attorneys in cases such as these. Attorney Shein is the author of the chapter entitled “Mitigation” …
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This week Sara and Jim chat with lawyer, author, and political analyst Bakari Sellers. They dive into Bakari's high profile police brutality case, the case of Ricky Cobb, a Minnesota man who was unjustifiably shot to death by a state trooper. The hosts and Sellers take a close look at what the O.J. Simpson case would look like it if it was tried to…
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Sara and Jim sit with reproductive law guru Dean Masserman this week. Dean unpacks the latest IVF decision by the Alabama Supreme Court. The decision comes with a price which the hosts discuss at length with Dean. Should the rest of the country be worried? How do we balance unnecessary destruction of genetic tissue with the need for efficacy in a f…
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This is My Story! This podcast was recorded January 2020 when I was a guest on Engaging Voices by Stacey Shipman. My journey from migrating from Sicily to the USA, learning English, my long IT career before founding Stage It For Success.By Santina Giannino
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For the season 5 finale of Heart of the Matter, Captain Sandy Yawn from the hit Bravo TV show “Below Deck” joins Elizabeth Vargas to discuss how years of substance use eventually led to more than 30 years in recovery. Sandy also gives advice to anyone struggling – especially those who’ve relapsed – as well as their families. Explore more on topics …
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This week Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Professor Lucy Guarnera. The two discuss when a criminal defense lawyer should consider criminal responsibility as a defense, resources for finding mental health experts, and critical components of a thorough forensic evaluation. In this episode, we discuss: When a criminal defense lawyer should cons…
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On this week's show Sara and Jim sit with Will Folks. The irreverant founder and editor of Fits News shares about how the news operation started, his one too many kids, and his journey of sobriety. Up close and personal, talks openly about his relationship with newsmaker and politician Nikki Haley. Will also shares about his coverage of corruption …
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Figlia founder Lily Geiger joins Elizabeth Vargas to share the inspiration behind her non-alcoholic cocktail brand. Lily reveals what it was like growing up with a parent struggling with substance use – including its profound influence on her life, and why it inspired her to start her own company. Content warning: This episode contains mentions of …
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This week Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Dr. Eric Drogin, the author of the first chapter in the second edition of her book, ‘Representing People with Mental Disabilities: A Practical Guide for Criminal Defense Lawyers.’ The two discuss clarification on the subject of competency and its importance, what to look for in the right mental healt…
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Pat Harris, Scott Peterson’s attorney, sits down with Sara for an exclusive interview about shocking new evidence regarding the disappearance and murder of his wife Laci Peterson and son Connor, as well as Scott Peterson’s road to a possible new trial. Sara and Pat talk at length about the extensive defense investigation over the past two decades, …
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In this episode of “Heart of the Matter”, award-winning author David Ambroz joins Elizabeth Vargas to share his incredible journey of overcoming poverty and homelessness and rising to become a successful lawyer and advocate for change. David’s childhood was marked by hardship and a system that failed him. Yet, he defied the odds, achieving remarkab…
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Elizabeth Kelley joins the show this week sharing her expertise representing people struggling with mental illnesses or mental disabilities. Elizabeth, Sara and Jim begin the show by discussing the difference between these two, “illness” and “disability”, and how those afflicted are treated in the criminal justice system. They also discuss more spe…
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Dave Aronberg, who serves as the Palm Beach County State Attorney in Florida, speaks with Elizabeth Vargas about navigating the treatment system. They discuss things people should look for when researching treatment centers, as well as things to avoid. He also explains the “Florida Shuffle” and what patient brokering is – and how this is happening …
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This week Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Professor Larry Dubin. The two discuss the work of helping people on the spectrum navigate “their new world” in the criminal justice system, the boilerplate knowledge that judges and prosecutors need to have in order to competently and humanely handle these cases, and the prevalence of people on the …
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Award-winning chef Ashish Alfred joins Elizabeth Vargas to discuss his family history with substance use – including his own addiction. Now that he’s in recovery, he is focused on transforming the restaurant industry for those who don’t drink alcohol. Explore more on topics and themes discussed in this episode: Is Your Child at Risk? A Substance Us…
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This week Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Senator Creigh Deeds. The two discuss the many initiatives he’s championed to relieve some of the flaws in the mental health space and the story that inspired him to take action. In this episode, we discuss: What he has done to reform the services delivered to people suffering from serious mental ill…
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This week, criminal trial attorneys Sara Azari and Jim Griffin break down the conspiracy theories surrounding the death of legend and godfather of soul, James Brown. They also discuss the mysterious death of Brown’s son-in-law, and whether or not the two deaths are linked. Jim shares his experience representing two of Brown’s biological daughters i…
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Jim and Sara continue their conversation with justice warrior, Savannah Chrisley. This week, the conversation is focused on the deplorable prison conditions that are impacting prisoners and families all across the nation, including Savannah’s father, Todd. They challenge prison policies that muzzle inmates and violate the 1st amendment. They also d…
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Charles Kelley joins Elizabeth Vargas to talk about his recovery journey. He discloses why he often hid his drinking from those closest to him, how his wife supported his recovery, and why it was important for Charles to be honest about Lady A’s 2022 tour postponement. Explore more on topics and themes discussed in this episode: Navigating the Trea…
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Nina Lombardo Barros shares the history of her family legendary iconic Lombardo's and Vincent's Nightclub. After four generations of hospitality they permanently closed their doors on December 31, 2023. Thank you Nina for the VIP Vincent's experience just a few weeks before the closing.By Santina Giannino
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This week Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Tom Oliver. The two discuss his journey with an early ASD diagnosis, how it has shaped his career and expertise, and the relevant defenses that Tom has proposed to better protect his clients. In this episode, we discuss: When Tom was diagnosed with autism, and how he felt about it initially How impor…
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Savannah Chrisley has been advocating for criminal justice after her parents, Todd and Julie Chrisley, were convicted of multiple counts of fraud in 2022. Today she joins Sara and Jim for a conversation about the way her family was treated in both the media and at trial, and how it led to a violation of not only their presumption of innocence, but …
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Today’s guest Prof. Natalie Ram specializes in examining the intersection between the advancements in forensic genealogy, and its role in the criminal justice system. For 15 years, Prof. Ram has made a case that forensic genetic genealogy raises constitutional and ethical concerns, including 4th amendment violations, based on the lack of voluntarin…
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Sara and Jim are excited to release their first new podcast of 2024. The hosts welcome lawyer, crisis manager, and political consultant Lanny Davis to the show, and discuss the recent mock trial that Sara and Lanny participated in. They also highlight the importance of the presumption of innocence, and how innuendos in journalism and media create a…
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This week Elizabeth Kelley talks with her guest, Nick Dubin. The two discuss the intersection of autism spectrum disorders and the criminal justice system. In this episode, we discuss: What common threads Nick has found in the intersection of autism spectrum disorders and the criminal justice system Why jail is an inhumane punishment for individual…
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In honor of Hip Hop’s 50th birthday, Sara and Jim are joined by music industry veteran and leading voice in Black music and culture, Naima Cochrane. Naima, Sara and Jim discuss the recent headline-making developments in two unsolved murder cases that have shaken the Hip Hop world for decades: Tupac Shakur and Jam Master Jay. As always, the hosts pr…
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This week Sara and Jim sit down with polygraph examiner Johnny Hartley to learn everything you could possibly ever want to know about the science of lie detection. Johnny speaks at length about just how different the reality of being testing via polygraph is to how the process seems on TV and in movies. He also answers questions about admissibility…
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Jim is in the guest seat this week to discuss some of the wildest cases he’s defended over the years. Helping to share some behind the scenes stories is surprise co-host, and Jim’s daughter, Hope Griffin. The group dives into the controversies surrounding a drug detection device called the ‘Quadro Tracker’, and why bringing home a present for your …
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First up- some important announcements, and an expression of our gratitude! Sara and Jimmy G. then welcome forensic cell data expert, Jim Persinger to the podcast to discuss his extensive training and background in the constantly changing field of digital and cell phone technology. They talk with him about phone and cell tower analysis software, as…
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South Carolina State Senator, and Jim’s co-counsel on many cases, Dick Harpootlian makes his debut appearance on the podcast. Sara chats with Dick and Jim about the history of their working relationship as well as their decades long friendship. Jim and Dick share some BTS moments that may have landed one of them in a hot tub! They share the latest …
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Sara and Jim welcome high profile trial attorney Jerome Buting to talk about defending a case with pre-trial publicity. They discuss Jerome’s defense of Steven Avery, the flaws in the criminal justice system, as well as the lasting impact of the docuseries ‘Making a Murderer’. Later, Sara and Jim offer a couple of parallels to what Jim has experien…
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Justin Brooks is a professor, attorney, and former Founding Director of the California Innocence Project. Sara and Jim speak with him about his incredible work handling wrongful convictions and freeing innocent people from prison. Justin also discusses his new book, ‘Why You Might Go To Prison Even Though You’re Innocent’, as well as what lead him …
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Trial guru Thomas Mesereau joins Sara and Jim at the top of the show. The trio of trial lawyers discuss his incredible accomplishments in the courtroom, as well as his relationship with media. They also discuss his defense of Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby, and more. As the show wraps up, Thomas discusses his life-changing pro bono work in the deep so…
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Sara and Jim open today’s show with a conversation about a Murdaugh juror who was excused because of a non-existent Facebook post. They are later joined by attorney and friend Joe McCulloch, who was noticeably front and center throughout the Murdaugh trial. They discuss the intersection of a Defendant’s right to a fair trial and the press’ 1st Amen…
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Recorded before a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Sara and Jim discuss the top issues surrounding the defense of alleged murderer Bryan Kohberger, ranging from the biggest holes in the case, to the realities of DNA evidence, Kohberger’s bushy eyebrows, and beyond. They are also joined by a different Brian… Brian Entin, Senior National Co…
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To begin this week’s podcast, Jim and Sara review the letter that the South Carolina Ethics Commission sent to Clerk Becky Hill in response to her request for ethics guidance on writing a book about the trial process. Sara then welcomes Chief of Criminal Division for the U.S. Attorney’s Office (Central District of California), Mack Jenkins to discu…
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Sara and Jim continue their conversation about the state’s response to alleged jury tampering by Clerk Becky Hill during the recent trial of Alex Murdaugh. They react to Dick Harpootlian’s advice for jurors to seek legal representation, focusing on the importance of having legal representation even for a potential witness. Later in the show, produc…
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