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Austin Art Talk

Scott David Gordon

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The goal of the podcast is to facilitate connections with and to learn from the successes, struggles, life experience, and wisdom of the people featured, most of whom live and create in Austin, Texas. The honest conversational flow of these weekly long form interviews lends itself to some really great insights and information that is available to anyone who wants to listen. Join us to explore the origins, stories, lessons, lives and work of those in our community who are at the forefront of ...
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UFO Talker will be available every Wednesday. It will be a mixture of discussion, interviews and people describing their sightings of unidentified flying objects. You can contact the podcast by email: ufotalker@bell.net
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The World to Come

David Treatman Creative

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2020 WEBBY AWARD HONOREE In a post-apocalyptic world with no internet or electricity, five disparate factions vie for dominance in the city-state of Fiveboro. Each tribe worships at the altar of the bygone pop-culture references of an earlier time, and relishes the stories of film and television they've never actually seen. The Fansci Folk live in a Sci-Fi/Fantasy cosplay kingdom, the Escandalistas invoke the drama of the Telenovelas, The Criterione Collective praises the independent Art Fil ...
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The Two Cities

The Two Cities Podcast

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The Two Cities is a podcast dedicated to Theology, Culture, and Discipleship. Originally beginning as a blog back in 2011 (thetwocities.com), we have extended our eclectic array of theological integration to the world of podcasting. Co-hosts and contributors include: Dr. Amber Bowen, Dr. Josh Carroll, Dr. John Anthony Dunne, Dr. Grace Emmett, Jennifer Guo, Dr. Brandon Hurlbert, Stephanie Kate Judd, Dr. Grace Sangalang Ng, Stanley Ng, Rev. Dr. Chris Porter, Rev. Daniel Parham, Dr. Madison Pie ...
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 40. Host Michael Ryan and Christine Scott talk about a number of UFO topics with their mid Summer catch up show. Topics up for discussion include: ufologist Ben Hansen and his new TV show and Who is Issac Koi? Was that a UFO that was seen at Red Rocks? If you would like to look up Issac Koi's large UFO colle…
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In this episode we’re joined by Prof. James McGrath, who is the Clarence L. Goodwin Chair in New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University and the author of the book that we’re discussing here, Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist (published by Eerdmans). Over the course of our conversation, we talk about biographical details that w…
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Send us a Text Message. Summer rerun series. Season 2 Episode 10. In an episode that originally aired on November 8, 2023, Host Michael Ryan interviews retired police constables Rick Prescott and Rob Furlong about their sighting of a black triangle UFO during their nightshift. Rob Furlong also recalls a story that a family friend told about a Tic T…
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Scott Coley, who is Lecturer in the Department of Philosophy at Mount St. Mary’s University, and the author of the book we’re discussing in this episode: Ministers of Propaganda: Truth, Power, and the Ideology of the Religious Right (published by Eerdmans). Over the course of our conversation, we talk about the i…
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Send us a Text Message. Summer rerun series. Season 1 Episode 21. In this episode that originally aired on January 18, 2023 host Michael Ryan interviews Terry Mantell, grandson of Captain Thomas F. Mantell who is the first Air Force pilot to lose their life in pursuit of a UFO. Terry Mantell talks about how his grandfather's death affected their fa…
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Sean McGever, who is Area Director for Young Life in Phoenix and teaches at Grand Canyon University, and who is the author of Ownership: The Evangelical Legacy of Slavery in Edwards, Wesley, and Whitefield (published by IVP). Over the course of our conversation, Dr. McGever informs us about the relationship that …
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Send us a Text Message. Summer Rerun Series. In an episode that originally aired on May 3, 2023, host Michael Ryan interviews retired NASA scientist Dr. Richard F. Haines about his book CE-5 and humans trying to communicate with extraterrestrials. He also discusses two cases from his book Advanced Aerial Devices Reported During the Korean War in wh…
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Matthew Elia, who is assistant professor of theology, race, and environment at Saint Louis University, and the author of The Problem of the Christian Master: Augustine in the Afterlife of Slavery (published by Yale University Press). Over the course of our conversation we talk about what Augustine had to say abou…
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Send us a Text Message. Summer rerun series. In this episode that originally aired on January 25, 2023, host Michael Ryan interviews U.S. soldier David Marceau who had an encounter in 1992 with a UFO that was 100 feet long and 50 feet wide late at night while he was on guard duty at Canadian Forces Base Gagetown. The base at Gagetown is a massive (…
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In this episode we’re joined by Prof. David Pechansky, who is Professor Emeritus at the University of St. Thomas, and the author of the book we’re discussing in this episode, Solomon and the Ant: The Qu’ran in Conversation with the Bible (published with Cascade). Over the course of our conversation we talk about various thematic parallels that emer…
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Send us a Text Message. Summer rerun series. In episode 5 from Season 2 (which originally aired on October 4, 2023) two eyewitness accounts of UFOs that were closer than 30 feet away. Each sighting has changed the witness and the way they view the world. Julie is from Melbourne, Australia and she talks about her encounter that was witnessed by her …
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In this episode we’re joined by Aimee Byrd, who is the author of a number of books, including the one we’re discussing on this episode, The Hope in Our Scars: Finding the Bride of Christ in the Underground of Disillusionment (published with Zondervan). In our conversation, Aimee points to the hope that she has in the midst of the negativity that sh…
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Send us a Text Message. Summer rerun series. In episode #30 that originally aired on March 22, 2023 Host Michael Ryan and commentator Christine Scott take a deep dive into the facts to find the truth. Did Gordon Cooper actually film the landing of a UFO at Edwards Air Force Base? Christine Scott also gives her book review of the Anomalist Books rep…
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. John Inazu, who is the Sally D. Danforth Distinguished Professor of Law and Religion at Washington University in St. Louis, and the author of the book that we discuss in this episode, Learning to Disagree: The Surprising Path to Navigating Differences with Empathy and Respect (published by Zondervan). Over the co…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 39. In the Season 2 finale, host Michael Ryan and commentator Christine Scott take a deep dive into The Star Blanket Encounter. On the night of November 27, 1973 a UFO that was described as being between 100-150 feet in diameter was first seen by Chief Noel Star of the Star Blanket First Nations Reservation.…
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CW: sexual and physical abuse, spiritual abuse, grooming, molestation, childhood trauma In this episode we're joined by Ryan George, who is the author of Hurt and Healed by the Church: Redemption and Reconstruction After Spiritual Abuse. During our conversation, Ryan tells us his story, which centers on how his father was an abusive pastor in the I…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 38. Host Michael Ryan interviews aviation safety expert Todd Curtis. Mr. Curtis talks about weather balloons and why UFOs are most likely not secret technology. Todd Curtis also talks about his time in the U.S. Air Force where he served at Edwards Air Force Base. He also talks about a glider pilot in Albany,…
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In this episode we’re joined by Gabriel Gordon, who is a master’s student in Theology at Marquette University and the author of the book that we discuss in this episode, The Fundamentals of a Recovering Fundamentalist: Reorienting towards the True, Good, and Beautiful (Wipf & Stock). In our conversation, Gabriel talks about how he deconstructed his…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 37. Host Michael Ryan interviews the son of Lawrence Smith who was a witness along with his brother, Gene Smith to the UFOs at Bear Point, Nova Scotia. The BEAR POINT INCIDENT was covered in Season 2, Episode 28. Charles Smith (son of Lawrence Smith), brings the event to life as he recounts what it was like …
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In this episode we’re talking about Dispensationalism with Dr. Daniel Hummel, who is the Director of the Lumen Center and Upper House in Madison, WI, a research fellow in the History Department at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the host of the UpWords podcast, and the author of The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battl…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 36. Host Michael Ryan interviews UK ufologist Alan Foster. Mr. Foster covers many topics including The Night of Triangles which happened in Southern Wales in January, 1983. He also talks about an RAF pilot who chased a huge UFO over Cyprus. If you would like to find out more about Alan Foster you can check o…
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In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Jason Staples, who is Asst Teaching Professor in the Department of Philosophy and Religious Studies at North Carolina State University, and the author of The Idea of Israel (CUP) as well as the more recent book that we’re discussing in this episode, Paul and the Resurrection of Israel (also with CUP). Over the c…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 35. Michael Ryan interviews legendary ufologist Jan Aldrich about Lt. Col. Wayne Mattson. Mattson is a mysterious and little-known figure in the UFO world. However, he may have known more about UFOs than anyone else. Jan also talks about an important UFO encounter that Mattson had while flying during the Vie…
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Nicholas Elder, who is Associate Professor of New Testament at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary and the author of the book that we discuss in this episode, Gospel Media: Reading, Writing, and Circulating Jesus Traditions (published by Eerdmans). Over the course of our conversation, Dr. Elder talks a…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 34. Host Michael Ryan interviews documentary filmmaker Joe Tury about his film Grand Tower UFOs and Other High Strangeness. His film covers the event that happened on March 22, 1973 when a UFO was hovering over the Grand Tower Illinois Power Plant. Grand Tower is also the site of a lot of other high strangen…
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In this episode we’re joined by Professor Curtis Freeman, who is Ruth D. Duncan Director of the Baptist House of Studies and Research Professor of Theology and Baptist Studies at Duke Divinity School, and he’s the author of Pilgrim Letters, and the book that we’re excited to discuss in this episode, Pilgrim Journey. In our conversation we talk abou…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 33. No, this isn't the headline from a supermarket tabloid...this really happened. Host Michael Ryan and Commentator Christine Scott take a deep dive into RCMP reports from March 4, 1969 and June 5, 1969. High strangeness was overhead on the night of March 4 and June 5, 1969. We discuss the reports of RCMP p…
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In this episode we’re joined by Dr. Jonathan Downie (PhD, Heriot-Watt University), who is a Consultant Interpreter and Researcher in Multilingual Churches, and the author of Multilingual Church: Strategies for Making Disciples in All Languages (w/ William Carey Publishing). Over the course of our conversation, Dr. Downie articulates the importance …
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 32. Host Michael Ryan interviews Irish ufologist Chris Gaffney. Chris Gaffney takes us on a deep dive of all things relating to UFOs in Ireland. From the 2004 encounter that an Aer Lingus 737 had with a triangle UFO. The encounter caused damage to the wing of the aircraft. We also play a conversation between…
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Dr. Barnabas Aspray is Assistant Professor of Systematic Theology at St. Mary's Seminary and University in Baltimore, MD and the author of a recent article in the academic journal, Modern Theology, called "Jesus Was A Refugee: Unpacking the Theological Implications." In this episode Dr. Aspray addresses the topic of the refugee crisis around the wo…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 31. Host Michael Ryan interviews author Bill Rountree. Mr. Rountree spent most of his life as project manager on large information technology projects for major companies like Sprint and Coca Cola, but for over 50 years he kept a secret. He had been having alien encounters since he was 7 years old. Bill Roun…
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CW: violence against children, assault, domestic partner violence, adverse religious experiences, suicide Rev. Dr. Scott Harrower is Lecturer in Christian Thought at Ridley College and an ordained minister in the Anglican Church. In this episode, Revd Dr. Harrower offers a theological response to trauma through the doctrine of the Trinity–reflected…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 30. Host Michael Ryan and Commentator Christine Scott take a deep dive into The Prochner Farm Incident. During the early morning hours of August 4, 1968 three members of the Prochner family witnessed a large UFO hovering over their house and their barn. The farm was located near Qu'appelle, Saskatchewan. The…
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CW: adverse religious experiences Dr. Charles Kiser is a pastor and theologian with Storyline Christian Community in Dallas, TX, and Dr. Elanie Heath is the former Dean of Duke Divinity School and the author of The Mystic Way of Evangelism and Loving the Hell Out of Ourselves (and Others). In this episode, we talk about Dr. Kiser’s and Dr. Heath’s …
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 29. Host Michael Ryan interviews retired Major Harold Skaarup. Major Skaarup spent 40 years in Canadian Army Intelligence and he was deployed in Cyprus, Bosnia-Herzegovina and in Afghanistan. He was also stationed at the NATO base in Lahr, Germany and the NORAD base at Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado. He talks a…
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CW: murder, depression Dr. Matthew D. Kim is the Professor of Practical Theology; Holder of the Hubert H. and Gladys S. Raborn Chair of Pastoral Leadership at Truett Seminary at Baylor University. In this episode, Dr. Kim introduces us to his book Preaching to People in Pain (Baker Academic, 2021) and his broader philosophies around trauma informed…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 28. Host Michael Ryan and commentator Christine Scott take a deep dive into The Bear Point Incident. Five witnesses from two location see between 5 and 6 UFOs from two different locations in Nova Scotia, Canada. Lawrence Smith and his brother Gene first see the UFOs near Bear Point (which is not that far fro…
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CW: adverse religious experiences, church-related trauma, narcissistic leaders Dr. Scot McKnight is Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary and Laura Barringer is an author and a Kindergarten Teacher. In this episode, they summarize their two recent books (A Church Called Tov and Pivot). In the first part, in the light of abuse related to W…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 27. In part 2 of Michael Ryan's interview with Jan Aldrich, Jan talks about UFO researcher Ted Blocher and John Musgrave from British Columbia. He also gives his thoughts of Jackie Gleason's UFO research and his experiences with James McDonald and Ann Druffel. He also talks about recent research into UFOs du…
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CW: wartime violence, civilian casualities, suicide Dr. Brian Powers is Vann Fellow in Christianity and the Armed Forces and Executive Director of the International Centre for Moral Injury at Durham University. In this episode Dr. Powers defines the term “moral injury” and helps us to understand some of the applications of this term with respect to…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 26. Host Michael Ryan interviews UFO legend Jan Aldrich about his 60 plus years in ufology. In part 1 of a 2 part interview, Jan talks about the people and places that he has met in his UFO journey. The highlight of part 1 is his explanation of the 1968 Minot Air Force Base UFO case that had many witnesses, …
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CW: sexual assault, forced migration, intimate partner violence. Dr. Alexiana Fry is a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Copenhagen and the author of Trauma Talks in the Hebrew Bible. In this episode, we talk about how she began working on this topic as well as several different texts that have or could be read in light of trauma (e.g., …
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 25. Host Michael Ryan interviews author Paul Schatzkin about his biography of Thomas Townsend Brown The Man Who Mastered Gravity: A Twisted Tale of Space, Time and the Mysteries in Between. Townsend Brown was a man of mystery. Were his inventions classified? Why was he dropped behind German lines near the en…
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Dr. Tim Middleton is Tutorial Fellow in Theology & Director of the Centre for Baptist Studies at Regent’s Park College at Oxford University. In this episode, we talk about ecological trauma—the trauma experienced by the earth and as a result of climate change and other ecological conditions. Dr. Middleton explains how his work intersects with traum…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 24. Host Michael Ryan interviews PEI UFO investigator David Ross. They talk about The UAP 53 Team, Ross' UFO Facebook page and a few PEI UFO cases including the little known Ebenezer UFO Incident. What crashed into a forest at Ebenezer, PEI? The RCMP was there and Canadian military helicopters and something …
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CW: microaggressions, institutional trauma, intergenerational trauma Pastor Juliet Liu is a co-pastor of Life on the Vine in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, and she serves as Chair of the Board for Missio Alliance. In this episode, we talk about what constitutes racial trauma, how this occurs differently in different environments, how intergenera…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 23. Host Michael Ryan interviews Benny Grandahl who represents Scandinavian UFO Information a UFO organization that has been operating in Denmark since 1957. Benny talks about the UFO scene in Denmark and the case of Danish police officer Evald Maarup who was hit with a beam of light from a 50 foot wide UFO.…
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CW: suicidal ideations, obsessive compulsive disorder In this episode we’re talking about trauma and mental illness with John Andrew Bryant. John Andrew Bryant is a caregiver, writer, and part-time street pastor in a small steel town outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and he is the author of A Quiet Mind to Suffer With, published in 2023 with Lexham…
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Send us a Text Message. Season 2 Episode 22. Host Michael Ryan interviews author Linda Powell about her biography of Major Donald E. Keyhoe. Her book not only covers Keyhoe, but also many of the people and events in ufology in the early days. She pays special attention to Townsend Brown, Captain Edward J. Ruppelt and groups like APRO. She opens up …
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CW: Domestic and Family Violence Erica Mandi Manga (née Hamence), who is Associate Minister of Formation and Training at St Barnabas Broadway in Australia, joins us to talk about the trauma caused by Domestic and Family Violence. In this episode, we talk about Erica's work in resourcing churches, define "domestic and family violence," which encompa…
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