Podcasts, readings, lectures and events: big ideas and radical discussion from authors and collaborators with Verso Books
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en(gender)ed features stories that explore the systems, practices, and policies that enable gender-based violence and oppression and the solutions to end it. We teach feminism and decolonize hearts and minds, one story at a time.
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The Green Flame is a Deep Green Resistance podcast that brings you revolutionary analysis, practical skills, and artistic expression from the grassroots movement to dismantle global industrial civilization.
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Let us introduce you to some of the fascinating people we work with to help you make sense of the world’s most complex challenges. In this podcast we share our research, explore alternatives to the status quo and give a platform to scholars and activists who are at the forefront of the fight against the current neoliberal order. We believe there are alternatives to this world and hope you do too.
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Clio has a PhD in English and uses it to interpret the songs of Taylor Swift.
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Carrianne Dillon hosts Carrianne's Literature Corner, your go-to for conversations about literature, education, and the intersections between them. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/carrianne-dillon/support
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State of Power


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S4 Ep5: Ecofeminism 1: A Powerful Vision (Lavinia Steinfort in Conversation with Dr. Vandana Shiva)
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S4 Ep6: Ecofeminism 2: Towards an Ecofeminist Energy Future. (Lavinia Steinfort in Conversation with Shannon Bell, Cara Daggett, and Christine Labuski) )
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Energy is currently produced and consumed based on sexist, racist and classist power relations that favour the pursuit of private profits at the expense of the common good. Extractivist oligopolies and corporatised politics have imposed humiliating austerity measures, privatisations of public services, and excessive and growing socio-economic inequ…
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The Verso Podcast


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Abolition Geography | Ruth Wilson Gilmore & Dalia Gebrial
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In this third episode of the newly relaunched Verso Podcast, Ruth Wilson Gilmore and Dalia Gebrial join Eleanor Penny to discuss prison abolitionism, racial capitalism, and critical geography.You can find Ruthie's book "Abolition Geography: Essays Towards Liberation" on our website at bit.ly/3OrC5cuBy Verso Books
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We are asking for your help to keep the Green Flame moving — we need to raise $1000 or more for production equipment for our audio engineer. This equipment will also support the final edits to an audiobook version of Deep Green Resistance: Strategy to Save the Planet that we have recorded and are planning to release for free. Thank you so much for …
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The Verso Podcast


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The Cult of Churchill | Tariq Ali & Priyamvada Gopal
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On the second episode of our new season of the Verso Podcast, host Eleanor Penny is joined by writer and film maker Tariq Ali, and academic and author Priyamvada Gopal to discuss the cult of Winston Churchill and the insidious rewriting of the history of the British Empire.You can find Tariq's book "Winston Churchill: His Times, His Crimes" on our …
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Taylor Swift and Thing Theory (cardigan)
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Old episode, brand new phone. Clio talks about vintage clothing and millennial angst. Studies in Taylor Swift is produced and edited by Clio Doyle. Co…
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Clio and Meredith discuss the page as matter and metaphor. Studies in Taylor Swift is produced and edited by Clio Doyle. Cover art is by Finley Doyle.…
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Taylor Swift and the Sense of An Ending (New Year's Day)
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Don't read the last page, but Clio discusses the refusal of endings in Taylor Swift's "New Year's Day." Studies in Taylor Swift is produced and edited…
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Close Reading the Ten-Minute "All Too Well"
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Clio revises her opinion of "All Too Well," at length, with only one minor passing mention of John Milton's Paradise Lost. Studies in Taylor Swift is …
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The Verso Podcast


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Against Nature | Raj Patel & Tina Ngata
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On the first episode of our new season of the Verso Podcast, host Eleanor Penny is joined by author Raj Patel and human rights advocate Tina Ngata to discuss the historical roots that tie together the exploitation of nature and people, and how those roots continue to impact our world today.You can find Raj's book, A History of the World in Seven Ch…
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State of Power


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S4 Ep4: Why We Need to Abolish Borders: Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Harsha Walia
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Borders uphold a global system of apartheid—and we should demand nothing less than their abolition. In this interview, activist and writer Harsha Walia lays out how borders and citizenship maintain colonial axes of power. From Fortress Europe outsourcing border control far into the African continent in exchange for aid, to Canada securing the avail…
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* This reissue of episode four of the podcast lingers like a tattoo kiss because it knew everything when it was young. Clio reads nostalgia in a whole l…
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Taylor Swift and Heteroglossia (Love Story)
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* This is a reissue of episode two of Studies in Taylor Swift, on Bakhtinian heteroglossia in Taylor Swift's "Love Story." Do you bite your thumb at us,…
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Taylor Swift and Ecofeminism (ivy)
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Clio goes back to the stone every day to talk about the ecofeminist reading of "ivy" - the song, the plant, and everything in between. Studies in Tayl…
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, and the Uncanny (deja vu)
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Did this podcast used to be about... Olivia Rodrigo? That's uncanny. I could have sworn it was about Taylor Swift. Just kidding, deep down it was alwa…
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Taylor Swift and New Historicism (Cornelia Street)
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Clio walks down Cornelia Street (again) and talks about street closures and traffic in relation to Taylor Swift's 2019 album Lover and the covid pande…
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* Clio asks whether Taylor Swift has a style - and what is style - and should this podcast be renamed "Roland Barthes Reads Taylor Swift?" Instead of ge…
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Studies in Taylor Swift


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REISSUE: Taylor Swift and the Death of the Author (the lakes)
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*This is an episode from the first three seasons of Studies in Taylor Swift, which ran from 2021-22. Although the entire podcast is no longer available, selected episodes will be regularly reissued.* This is a reissue of the first ever episode of Studies in Taylor Swift, on the song "the lakes" from Swift's album folklore, read through the lens of …
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The Verso Podcast


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The Cost of Living Crisis (and how to get out of it)
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The response to the inflation surge by the UK government has been disastrous for working people. Pushing up interest rates, attempting to keep pay rises down, and trying to cut pensions and other benefits, has exacerbated the devastating cost-of-living crisis.The true causes of the crisis have nothing to do with workers asking for pay rises. Rapid …
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The Green Flame


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"Our Rights to Self-Determination: a Hawaiian Manifesto" with Anne Keala Kelly
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On this episode, Max Wilbert speaks with Anne Keala Kelly about her new short book, "Our Rights to Self-Determination: a Hawaiian Manifesto." In addition to being an author, Keala is a filmmaker, journalist, podcaster, and writer. Her published articles and Op-Eds have appeared in the Honolulu Star-Advertiser, The Nation, Indian Country Today, Hono…
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State of Power


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S4 Ep3: Why we need to break Big Pharma's Power before the next Pandemic hits (Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Mohga Kamal-Yanni)
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How is it that drug companies can make huge profits from vaccines while people in the global south die from lack of access to medical care? How does the global regime of intellectual property rights enable this inequality? And what is the role of Bill Gates in defending this system? In this interview, Dr. Mohga Kamal-Yanni argues that vaccine inequ…
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The Green Flame


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Renee Gerlich: Out Of The Fog - On Politics, Feminism and Coming Alive
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Our third Green Flame interview with Renee Gerlich celebrates the publication of Out Of The Fog: On Politics, Feminism and Coming Alive (Spinifex Press, 2022). Renee is a writer, artist and feminist based out of New Zealand. We focus on the coming alive aspect of Renee's life and her new multidimensional book. From the Publisher: From racialised po…
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State of Power


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S4 Ep2: Seizing the Means of Computation – How Popular Movements Can Topple Big Tech Monopolies: In Conversation with Cory Doctorow
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An influential group of big technology corporations, commonly referred to as Big Tech has concentrated vast economic power with the collusion of states, which has resulted in expanded surveillance, spiraling disinformation and weakened workers' rights. TNI’s 11th flagship State of Power report exposes the actors, the strategies and the implications…
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State of Power


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S4 Ep1: Will There Be Another Debt Crisis? Current Economic Challenges Facing the Global South: Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Jomo Kwame Sundaram
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What are the economic challenges facing the Global South post-pandemic? What role have global financial institutions like the World Bank and the IMF played in worsening the economic situation for poorer countries? And what economic alternatives might exist? In this interview, Jomo Kwame Sundaram shines a light on the effects that decades of liberal…
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The Verso Podcast


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What comes after we abolish borders? Gracie Mae Bradley and Luke De Noronha
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In this bumper edition of the Verso podcast we talk to authors Gracie Mae Bradley and Luke De Noronha about their new book Against Borders: The Case for Abolition. In it we explore what a world without borders might look like and the intricacies of imagining or advocating for that world. We then talk to Zehrah Hasan of JCWI about practical ways we …
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State of Power


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S3 Ep15: How the World’s Tax Havens became the Data Centres for the Digital Economy (In conversation with Sofia Scassera)
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As the various tax avoidance scandals such as the Panama papers, Paradise papers and Pandora papers have shown, tax havens are some of the most important instruments for reproducing social inequalities. The wealthy use countries with favourable laws to store their wealth, safely and away from public scrutiny. But tax havens are becoming an even big…
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The Green Flame


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Live event recording from "Collapse: Climate, Ecology, and Civilization"
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On November 19th, Deep Green Resistance hosted a special 3-hour live streaming event, "Collapse: Climate, Ecology, and Civilization" featuring Derrick Jensen, Saba Malik, Max Wilbert, Robert Jensen, Lierre Keith, and grassroots activists from four continents. This podcast is the audio recording of the event. If you wish to donate to support this wo…
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Join us for a Special Live Event on November 19th - "Collapse: Ecology, Climate, and Civilization"
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Our way of life — industrial civilization — is destroying the planet. From coral reefs to the great forests, the last strongholds of the wild are falling. The climate is destabilizing. And we are entering the 6th mass extinction of life on Earth. Ecological collapse is here. This unprecedented crisis demands extraordinary solutions. And yet, govern…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep14: Just Transition in North Africa (In Conversation with Hamza Hamouchene)
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The environmental and social effects of the industrial capitalist system have long been obvious to marginalised communities forced to live in the garbage dumps of production while their resources are pillaged for raw materials. However, today, the systemic effects are increasingly visible to all. It’s clear, to save humanity and complex life on our…
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The Verso Podcast


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Abolish the Family | Sophie Lewis speaks to Ben Smoke
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Do family abolitionists want to get rid of your Gran? Do they hate love? Are they all killjoys looking to rip the roots of working class resistance apart? Find out all this and more in this episode of the Verso podcast with author Sophie Lewis in conversation with Ben Smoke.Sophie Lewis is the author of Abolish the Family: A Manifesto for Care and …
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The rules of politics have broken | Jeremy Gilbert and Alex Williams
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How did we come to live in a world dominated by big tech and finance? In this video, Jeremy Gilbert and Alex Williams explore how these forces have shaped the direction of politics and government as well as the neoliberal economy to benefit their own interests. They discuss the concept of hegemony—the importance of passive consent; the complexity o…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep13: The not so hidden cost to “Mega” Energy deals : the Energy charter Treaty in West Africa (Nigeria)
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Nigeria has a terrible history with international oil companies like Shell, having a hard time getting compensation for environmental damage. Even with some legal wins, like when the Hague Court of Appeals found Shell Nigeria liable for damages from pipeline leaks in the villages of Oruma and Goi, the country is still a long way from achieving true…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep12: The not-so-hidden cost to “mega” energy deals : the Energy Charter Treaty (ECT) in East Africa (in conversation with Olivia Costa and Brenda Akankunda)
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Lack of access to modern energy services remains a major constraint to economic development in many regions, and perhaps in Africa most of all. According to the Africa development Bank, only 40 percent of the continent’s people have regular access to electricity. African governments are trying to expand their capacity to provide energy to their cit…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep11: Why anti-Asian racism is on the rise in the US: Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Tobitha Chow
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Why are US-China relations deteriorating? What are the impacts of growing anti-Asian racism on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPI) living in the US? Will the new Cold War with China replace the US War on Terror? In this interview, Tobita Chow argues that the rise of China as an economic power has become a clear threat to US hegemony. While…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep10: India - How the government's pandemic response caused more deaths: Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Sulakshana Nandi
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Why did the pandemic spiral out of control in India? Why did some states see many more people dying than others? The central government's authoritarian measures, badly planned lockdowns, structural inequality and many forms of discrimination drastically increased the death toll, argues Sulakshana Nandi in this interview. She discusses India's unequ…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep9: How Powerful Pharmaceutical Companies Shaped the Response to the Pandemic: Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Harris Gleckman
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During the pandemic, the World Health Organisation and governments took a back seat and power was centred on corporate interests. Health was viewed not as a right or a necessity, but as a product to be marketed and sold. Even in the midst of a global health emergency, companies treated the ill and the vulnerable as consumers and vaccines as commodi…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep8: The Case for Community Supported Fisheries (Mads Barbesgaard in Conversation with Thibault Josse)
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New generations of technologically advanced, hyper efficient industrial vessels, have gotten too good at fishing. This limited number of vessels has a massive impact on the ocean. Fish stocks have largely declined since the 1980s, but not all fishers contribute to the problem to the same extent, nor are all fishing livelihoods impacted to the same …
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State of Power


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S3 Ep7: Capitalism and the Sea ( Mads Barbesgaard in Conversation with Liam Campling and Alex Colás)
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Aside from occasionally popping up as a topic, for example in relation to plastics, oil-spills, or occasional references to melting glaciers, the oceans are often a "forgotten space" for many otherwise inspiring social movements. But the oceans have had a central and changing role across different moments. The global ocean has through the centuries…
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Joshua Clinton reads the article, "What is Biocentrism?" which was originally published on the DGR News Service on April 15, 2022. https://dgrnewsservice.org/civilization/ecocide/what-is-biocentrism-the-unfolding-miracle-of-life/By Deep Green Resistance
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Who do the police protect? | Ben Smoke speaks to Matt Foot and Morag Livingstone
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Since the 1980s police have been allowed to suppress protests by using aggressive tactics—from batons to horse charges to kettling. New military-style tactics were sanctioned by the Thatcher government, in secret. Over the next forty years those protesting against racism, unfair job losses, draconian laws, or for environmental protection were subje…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep6: How Big Tech captured our public health system: Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Seda Gürses
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The privatisation of public services is a long-standing global trend. But in the wake of the pandemic and through the introduction of contact tracing apps, Big Tech has gone one step further: Large corporations like Amazon, Microsoft, and Google are now set to control the very infrastructure that underlies our public health system. In this eye-open…
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State of Power


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S3 Ep5: The Problem with Global Trade 3. Investment Protection (In conversation with Luciana Ghiotto)
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Many poor countries sign trade agreements with the desperate hope of attracting investment from their wealthy counterparts. However, these agreements, or treaties, tend to have some very problematic clauses, which often lead to trouble down the road. Investors have used these treaties to sue countries for any actions, such as changes in policy, tha…
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"Don't Look Up" — Brilliant Critique of Climate Deniers or Neoliberal Fairy Tale?
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In this episode, Max Wilbert and Carl van Warmerdam discuss the 2021 Netflix film "Don't Look Up," an extended allegory for global warming. We discuss whether the film is an accurate satire or a pandering neoliberal fairy tale - or both.
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State of Power


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S3 Ep4: The Problem with Global Trade 2. The World Trade Organization (In conversation with Alexandra Strickner)
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For a while now, the mantra “trade not aid” has dictated how the overdeveloped countries of the Global North engage with their less wealthy counterparts. The logic being that trade is more dignified than aid, and leads to longer lasting change. However, to anyone who has been paying attention, the way global trade is set up may actually be one of t…
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S3 Ep3: The Problem with Global Trade 1. Entrenching Inequality (in conversation with Grieve Chelwa)
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For a while now, the mantra “trade not aid” has dictated how the overdeveloped countries of the Global North engage with their less wealthy counterparts. The logic being that trade is more dignified than aid, and leads to longer lasting change. However, to anyone who has been paying attention, the way global trade is set up may actually be one of t…
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Joshua Clinton reads the article: https://dgrnewsservice.org/civilization/ecocide/habitat-loss/bolivia-extinction-and-displacement-dams-not-green-energy/By Deep Green Resistance
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S3 Ep2: Ukraine: A Call for Solidarity (In Conversation with Denys Gorbach and Denis Pilash)
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On 24 February 2022, to considerable shock, Russia launched a large scale invasion of Ukraine. This was a major escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian conflict that has been ongoing, particularly since 2014. In this podcast we want to find out what Ukrainians involved in its social movements are thinking about the conflict. Where do they think the war i…
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What is ecofeminism, and why is it necessary in the fight for climate justice?
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What is ecofeminism, and why is it necessary in the fight for climate justice? by Verso BooksBy Verso Books
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S3 Ep1: How elites use the pandemic to secure their power: Arun Kundnani in Conversation with Eda Seyhan
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Governments around the world have used the pandemic as an excuse to expand their powers. Populations have been divided on the basis of race and class into those deserving of protection and those perceived as risky and to be controlled. Migrants, refugees, precarious workers, and racialized groups have faced vulnerability and repression. Many Wester…
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Abortion Rights in the US with Lauren Levey
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Lauren Levey has had a lifelong involvement with women's rights and lesbian rights. She is a second-wave radical feminist who is currently on the Board of Directors of the Women's Human Rights Campaign USA, and serves as its Vice President. In this episode Lauren shares her radical analysis of abortion in America and on the fight to end the subjuga…
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