Good books are read For adaptations that blew. Come hear a discussion By the H.E. crew. Lizzy and Nate and the occasional guest dissect novels, novellas, short stories, plays, leaflets, cereal boxes -- anything that was later turned into a movie. They pillory plot differences, castigate casting choices, and revel in all that is right.
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Shame Rules! is a new narrative podcast that explores the many, many, many ways that shame, often invisibly, shapes not just our own lives and experiences, but our entire world. Join host Nick Jaworski (Where There's Smoke) as he investigates shame's role in raising and educating children, determining what laws get written and enforced, deciding how we treat marginalized people, seeing how we view change itself, influencing who has power and who doesn’t - and that's just scratching the surfa ...
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For such a slender volume, Ursula K. Le Guin's world changing novel, The Lathe of Heaven (1971), had enough going on to splinter off two different adaptations over time. Nate and Lizzy are joined by return guest Jonathan Franklin, and the trio chisels away at the layers of the book and the TV movies from 1980 (dir. David Loxton and Fred Barzyk) and…
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For just the second time in history the Hate Expectations team has raced into their local theater to take on a subject that is still new enough to make waves: director George Clooney's The Boys in the Boat (2023), based on the 2013 novel by Daniel James Brown. Nothing gets their hearts pumping and their breath ragged like even a light amount of exe…
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There's a fin in the water and fun in the air! From Jaws, Peter Benchley's incredibly popular 1974 novel, to Jaws, Steven Spielberg's even more popular 1975 film, Lizzy and Nate sink their teeth into the adaptation, rip into the differences, and digest the repercussions of both on the future of cinema and entertainment. Armed with the fleshed out s…
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You know, they say books are the reason we have such beautiful movies. They also say that adaptation are the reason we have such beautiful episodes of Hate Expectations. Listen to this episode to at least find out if Lizzy and Nate agree with that first truism, at least with regard to Get Shorty, the 1990 Elmore Leonard novel and the 1995 film dire…
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! We're a little late getting this episode on the movie A Christmas Story (1983, d. Bob Clark) out to you. That's perfect in keeping with the source material, however, since the book it was based on, In God We Trust...All Others Pay Cash (1966, w. Jean Shepherd), places most of its stories throughout the year. Prot…
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The golden orb has streaked its path across the sky many times since Hate Expectations last palavered on a digital recording medium. We've been most delinquent in getting our house in order. In Lizzy and Nate's case that means finally recording and releasing the long delayed episode on Stella Gibbons' classic novel, Cold Comfort Farm (1932), and th…
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It's that special time of year again -- spring! We at Hate Expectations like to to put out an episode like this in early April to celebrate the joys of the season. This time we take on Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's famous consulting detective, Sherlock Holmes, along with some of the myriad adaptations the literary giant appears in. But how to make sense…
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We're not high, we promise, though it may sound like it at times in this episode (maybe we should have been). That just the effect of Thomas Pynchon on a person's brain. And while Inherent Vice (2009) is possibly his most accessible novel, with the Paul Thomas Anderson movie (2014) being a streamlined version of that, there's still just a lot to ab…
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HE038 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
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At long last, we are delivering on our promise to rip into Roald Dahl's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (1964) and the two film adaptations molded by it (1971, dir Mel Stuart & 2005, dir Tim Burton). But there's just too much confectionary conversation not to share it with friends, so we invited Megan Steen and returning guest Dug Steen* to join …
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HE037 The Little White Horse / The Secret of Moonacre
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Sweet swimmin' unicorns, what did Lizzy do? It was her birthday a few months ago, and for it she selected Elizabeth Goudge's book, The Little White Horse, for us to cover. Seemed like a good idea, doing a cute story of a plucky little girl who discovers she's a moon princess in the valley of her OH MY GOD! What is wrong with the movie?! Where is th…
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HE036 Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
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It's April as I type this (rabbit, rabbit), and that can mean only one thing -- it's time for our Easter episode of Hate Expectations! Now we know there have been a few adaptations of the Bible over the years, so we had a lot of options. For this special episode we decided to concentrate on the stellar 1999 direct-to-video filmed staging of Andrew …
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While the pandemic has left a lot of us feeling a bit unstuck in time, the effects of that don't seem to be as strong for us as they are for Billy Pilgrim, the protagonist of Kurt Vonnegut Jr's novel, Slaughterhouse-Five, Or The Children's Crusade: A Duty Dance with Death (1969). Join us as we meander through our discussion, popping back and forth …
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Finally! Hate Expectations, along with multiple time returning guest/friend Jane Hutchins, takes a journey deep into the human mind. Join us as we dig into all the minutiae of the 1966 movie, Fantastic Voyage (dir. Richard Fleischer) and the novelization of it by noted sci-fi author, Isaac Asimov. No plot hole is too large and no performance is too…
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Shame parades aren’t just the stuff of books and movies, they are very real. Today’s episode explores these parades from two different angles: The first story is about how community, religion, law, and shame can intersect in ways that don't always work out so well. The other story is about a community confronting shame head on. Full show notes: www…
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Halloween is our favorite time of year, here at Spielenwald, Hate Expectations's headquarters. There's no better time to dim the lights and curl into the fetal position with a scary book or the movie it spawned. In this episode we breathe life into Rosemary's Baby, the 1967 novel by Ira Levin and the 1968 film directed by Roman Polanski. It's a cla…
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What happens when a community tells you not just how to act - but how to think? And is there a cost when shame is used as a way to control the behavior of teenagers? From pledges, to pop stars, to ponies - sexual abstinence was an important part of pop culture in the 1990s and 2000s. This episode of Shame Rules! explores purity culture to understan…
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Is it true that one man's shame is the cause of the AIDS epidemic in North America? Full show notes: www.shamerules.com/PatientZero To receive your 20% off of Dr. Richard McKay's book, Patient Zero and the Making of the AIDS Epidemic, then visit www.press.uchicago.edu and use the code "MCKAY20". Make sure to get your Shame Rules paper bag at www.sh…
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HE032 The Hunter / Point Blank / Payback
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We're back! It's a special birthday / rebirth episode, as Lizzy* and Nate track down Richard Stark's 1962 novel, The Hunter. Join us as we not only beat this crime classic to a pulp, but we talk the two(!) movie adaptations to death: Point Blank (1967, dir John Boorman) and Payback (1999, dir Brian Helgeland). There's a whole lot of seething putrid…
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New episodes available on October 2nd. Shame Rules! is a new podcast that explores the many, many, many ways that shame, often invisibly, shapes not just our own lives and experiences, but our entire world. Shame plays an important role in how we raise and educate our children, which laws get written, how we treat marginalized people, how we view c…
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HE031 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
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We're back with a special quarantine episode! From the time we published The Princess Bride until today (11/19/19 to 04/01/20 -- over a third of a year!) we at Hate Expecations have had a good long Christmas vacation, planned and delivered the culmination of a four year Leap Day party, read some non-adapted books, and mostly enjoyed taking some tim…
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At a break in the Sasquatch board gaming festival, Hate Expectations took advantage of their inconceivable friend, Dug Steen, being in town to record an episode on William Goldman's novel The Princess Bride (1973) and the highly quotable classic movie Rob Reiner made from it (1987). The three grab a vine and dive head first into the beloved story a…
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HE029 The Orchid Thief / Adaptation.
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In a very special episode of Hate Expectations, Lizzy learns the hard way that rock music is Satan's gateway to your heart, while Nate find's the school bully's unwanted attention is just a cry for help. No, wait. It isn't that kind of a special episode. It's a birthday episode! We finally get to the mic with our long awaited episode about Susan Or…
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HE028 The Odyssey / O Brother, Where Art Thou
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Rich and Z return to the podcast, bringing a curious Homer pick with them. Joel and Ethan Coen's O Brother, Where Art Thou (2000) technically does give a "based on" credit to the ancient greek poem, The Odyssey, which qualifies it for discussion on the show. Not to spoil the journey, but it turns out you have to squint mighty hard most times to see…
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HE027 Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH
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As avowed rat lovers, it was inevitable that Lizzy and Nate would eventually discuss the beloved Newbery Medal winner, Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH (Robert C. O'Brien, 1971), and its Don Bluth animated adaptation, The Secret of NIMH (1982). But in a surprise twist of fate, it turned out that frequent guest host, Siobhan Beeman, was the one to b…
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Three people, intentionally sequestered in the woods of the Pacific Northwest: Lizzy, Nate, and special returning guest Jane Hutchins. At first they thought they were imagining things; haunting visions of insanity, terror, and death. A distant voice sighed out a premonition: "REDRUM". The television flicked to life, showing the huddled trio even mo…
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Lizzy invokes one of her birthday wishes this year to whisk the Hate Expectations team off to a hidden corner of the south pacific, where a magical island of humans and dinosaurs live and work together in near perfect harmony. Yes, we dust off James Gurney's coffee table classic, Dinotopia (1992), and then unearth a dvd copy of the Hallmark mini-se…
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Representing a slight departure from reality, this episode of Hate Expectations finds Nate and Lizzy taking a long hard listen to The Who's rock opera, Tommy, looking deeply into the Ken Russell movie of the same name (1975), and speaking freely about the sensations it inspires in them. They are joined by their friend, Matt Anderson, on a quest to …
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It's Christmas time in the City of Angeles. And while decent listeners sleep the sleep of the righteous, the Hate Expectations crew prowls for merry noir, not knowing that James Ellroy's L.A. Confidential is coming to punch them in the gut. Another Christmas episode*. Another not-overly sentimental property to discuss. Ellroy called his novel (1990…
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Let's just say this up front -- the book, The Warriors (1965) by Sol Yurick, is a realistic take on New York city gangs and their activities. Consequently, in our discussion of it and the 1979 movie of the same name directed by Walter Hill, we cover a lot of potential trigger warnings, use a lot of adult language, and touch on some less than pleasa…
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HE021 Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? / Blade Runner
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In a very special episode of Hate Expectations, we reveal that one one of the two of us is actually an android. However, technology has come so far since the time of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (1968, Philip K. Dick) that it's impossible to distinguish us from real humans now. The only consequence for the show is that we can finally reveal…
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We're watching the detectives. Technically, we were reading Erich Kästner's Emil and the Detectives (Emil und die Detektive, 1929) and watching some of the five films they shot based on the extremely popular German book. Despite being on the case on and off for months, we at Hate Expectations somehow let a few facts slip past our absurdly large mag…
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The "Empire Strikes Back" of Hate Expectations's Ready Player One episodes, this half contains ever more of cultural reference popouts and just as many SPOILERS, as well as the truly outrageous Snuffy Walden awards. Join our heroes as they continue their bogus journey through Ernest Cline's novel and Steven Spielberg's movie, navigating the mazes a…
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You want pop culture references? We've got all the references you can handle right here, in this potentially timely episode of Hate Expectations. Nate, Lizzy, and special guest Chris Lemon immerse themselves in the world of Ready Player One. The 2011 novel, by Ernest Cline, was adapted for 2018's cinema by former Wunderkind Steven Spielberg, and we…
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HE017 The Story of Your Life / Arrival
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In an earlier episode (HE006), Hate Expectations discovered that time is an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so. That concept is taken to the outer limits in Ted Chiang's award winning sci-fi novella, The Story of Your Life (1998). Listen in to this recording of Lizzy and Nate as they get down verbally with their friend and returning guest host, Siob…
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HE016 Nothing Lasts Forever / Die Hard
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Did you know that action classic Die Hard (1988, dir. John McTiernan) was based on a novel? We at Hate Expectations were overjoyed when we first learned about Nothing Lasts Forever (1979, Roderick Thorp), because it meant that we could cover the adaptation for our first Christmas episode. And that's exactly what we've done! We even ganged up with o…
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In honor of this most wonderful time of the year (it's still Halloween somewhere, right?), the Hate Expectations team sinks its teeth into the anime classic, Vampire Hunter D. We drank in the English translation (2005) of the Hideyuki Kikuchi novel (1983), were hypnotized into a restless trance by the animated movie adaptation (dir. Toyoo Ashida, 1…
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Alan Turing is one of the principle reasons you're able to read this sentence on a computer right now. He is also a major reason the sentence is in English instead of German or Japanese. He's a fascinating character with an fascinating life cut way too short. So when our friend and guest host, Siobhan Beeman, suggested we hash out the Turing biogra…
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The player characters at Hate Expectations both lesbian the movie Scott Pilgrim vs the World. So it was an easy choice to make the book/movie combo the next one up in their podcast. Game as Lizzy and Nate were to take on the boss challenge this presented, they must now console themselves with putting a few bits they missed during recording on this …
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Team Hate Expectations lives up to their name again, as Lizzy, Nate, and special guest, Jeff Emery, weigh in on Vision Quest, the Terry Davis novel (1979) and the Harold Becker film (1985) adapted from it. In this episode our lunatic crew chases the story all over the mat, trying to grapple with a book that eschews conflict for verisimilitude, and …
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The Hate Expectations regulars, Lizzy and Nate, along with out-of-this-world special guest Jonathan Franklin, dig into America's past's potential future by watching and reading The Man Who Fell to Earth, the Walter Tevis sci-fi novel (1963), and the Nicolas Roeg directed David Bowie vehicle (1976). Much is made of how the filmmakers attempt somethi…
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Come to Oceania, where palm trees sway in the tropical breeze and the sun gently carresses the sea. Our hero, a young British colonial officer, takes his new wife to the farflung post of the Gilbert and Ellice islands, where he documents the culture clash with both the native islanders and the more experienced British officers. His memoir, A Patter…
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Your humble narrators, Lizzy and Nate, are back with another Love Bite mini-sode. Well, honestly, it's more of a macro-mini in this case. (There's a lot to get through, folks!) Listen in as we pontificate on a couple of subjects that really toyed with our imaginations and frankly just spoke to us. Join us, won't you?…
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I looked under chairs I looked under tables I'm tryin to find the key To fifty million fables They call me the seeker I been searchin low and high -- The Seeker, Pete Townshend Back to young adult lit we go, to 1973's The Dark is Rising, book two of the Susan Cooper series of the same name. As both our birthrights and contractual obligations mandat…
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Fulfilling our moral obligation as podcasters, Hate Expectations have finally entered the mini-episode game with a series we call Love Bites. In all such episodes we will discuss (hopefully) delightful little facts we have researched on the subject of...well, whatever particularly interests us. We hope it interests you, too!…
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Betty MacDonald had a farm, e-i-e-i-o. And on this farm she had some laughs, e-i-e-i-o. With a ha-ha here and a...well, you get the idea. Join Nate and Lizzy as they crack into the deliciously funny novel, The Egg and I (1945), and brood about the film adaptation (1947) made from it. In this episode there is yet another catty discussion about actre…
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Could there be any other subject matter for our episode numbered HE007 than Ian Fleming's own James Bond? We'd give ourselves a license to squeal if that was anything more than a quantum of synchronicity. But truthfully, the topic came to us as a suggestion from our very first guest-hosts, Rich and Z Johnson! Specifically, the four of us spied with…
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HE006 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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Get your towels ready and loosen up your Electronic Sub-Etha Signaling Devices, as you join Hate Expectations' Lizzy and Nate on a journey through the various forms of Douglas Adams's classic, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Their babblings on the radio series, the book, the tv series, and the movie must surely rank up there with the very fin…
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"This episode's pretty cussin' good!" - Myself Keeping to the trend of loving the source material and the adaptation made from it, we, the ever more inaccurately named Hate Expectations folks, take you back to childhood favorite Roald Dahl's second tier classic, Fantastic Mr. Fox, and the Wes Anderson film of the same name. There is a bit more off-…
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...Oh, say does that star spangled banner yet wave o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave play ball? In this episode Lizzy and Nate touch base with Moneyball, the 2003 book by Michael Lewis and the 2011 hit movie made from it. We take a swing at the non-fiction account of the Oakland A's baseball team, their manager, Billy Beane, and h…
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HE003: Something Wicked This Way Comes
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By the clicking of our tongues, some discussion this way comes. No, we're not tackling the bard just yet, and we probably wouldn't start with the Scottish play if we were. Rather, it's Ray Bradbury's 1962 novel Something Wicked This Way Comes and the 1983 film adaptation we're talking about. It's a zippity-doo-dead kind of horror the way Disney use…
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