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A running podcast dedicated to conversation, commentary, and fun. Our team has someone for everything, from pros to amateurs, track nerds to ultra athletes, shoe experts, and coaches. We love discussing all-things running with enough hilarious tangents to keep you on your toes. Like being on your favorite group run with friends. The Relay team of contributors includes Kofuzi, Stefanie Flippin, Lindsey Hein, Laura Thweatt, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, Marcus Brown, and Matt Chittim.
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Join hosts Matt Chittim and Jason Macaluso as they bring you up to speed on the leading stories at the intersection of business and endurance sports. Matt and Jason deliver breaking news, as well as deep dives and guest interviews on the topics that are impacting the endurance sports world. So pour yourself a cup of coffee and plug into the BSD.
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The Road to the Trials has returned for season three and we are fired up! We will be bringing you a yearlong, behind the scenes, look at the training and racing of some of America's best runners as they prepare for the Olympic Marathon Trials on February 3, 2024. In this amazing season we will be following Nell Rojas, CJ Albertson, Sara Vaughn, Dani Moreno, Nico Montañez, Carmen Graves, Ramiro “Curly” Guillen and Jereny Rivera.
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Laura Galeazzo has been running for over 20 years, won the 2018 Buffalo Marathon, and has coached runners of all abilities to PR's in the marathon (her favorite race distance). In this episode, Laura shares her two favorite workouts that focus on making marathon pace feel easier and more doable for runners looking to set a PR on race day. You can l…
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Shanna Birchett is the true definition of a "mother runner" with a shockingly inspirational story. A mother of six kids under eight years of age, Shanna returned to running in her early 20's after a talented yet tumultuous beginning in the sport as a pre-teen. In fact, just last week Shanna set a new marathon PR of 2:44:11 at Grandma's Marathon! Yo…
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The Olympic Track Trials are here and Relay is here to get you ready for the action. Today we have the women's draft and preview with Peter Bromka, Tommie Runz, Laura Thweatt, Lindsey Hein and Matt Chittim. In this episode we pick our favorites across the running events with the scoring being three points for first place, two points for second, and…
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The Olympic Track Trials are here and Relay is here to get you ready for the action. Today we have the Men's draft and preview with Peter Bromka, Kofuzi, and Matt Chittim. In this episode we pick our favorites across the running events with the scoring being three points for first place, two points for second, and one point for a third place finish…
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The Olympic Track Trials are here and Relay is here to get you ready for the action. Today we have the Men's draft and preview with Peter Bromka, Kofuzi, and Matt Chittim. In this episode we pick our favorites across the running events with the scoring being three points for first place, two points for second, and one point for a third place finish…
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In this episode, we cover the affects that heat and humidity can have on your running and ways you can alter your schedule, workouts, nutrition, and (most importantly) mindset to train and race at your best during the summer months. Sponsors ASICS - Check out my favorite footwear brand, and the new Metaspeed Sky and Edge Paris racers that are out a…
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Elisabeth Scott is the woman being the hugely successful Running Explained Instagram account (that has nearly 200K followers!) and coaching service. She has three different coaching certifications and continues to provide the running community with a bevy of thoughtful and useful information on training, racing, and everything in-between. She also …
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In this episode, you will hear about the keys to crushing your next 5k. Especially those big and competitive races that can bring out the best in us but can also be tricky to navigate (especially the starting line and early push). Sponsors ASICS - Check out my favorite footwear brand, and the new Metaspeed Sky and Edge Paris racers that are out and…
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On this week's group episode, we have Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, Peter Bromka, and Marcus Brown. Episode rundown: Portland Track Festival NCAA Championships A Matt Chittim check-in! Upgrade to the Boston Marathon mascot: Spike Thank you to our sponsor Like the Wind Magazine. Go to ⁠⁠⁠https://www.likethewindmagazine.com/relay⁠⁠⁠ for a free magazine…
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Amanda Vestri joined Laura Thweatt and Lindsey Hein for the Chat with a Pro series on Relay podcast this week! If you paid attention to the Mini 10K this weekend, you saw that she placed 4th and finished as the first American woman in the field. In this episode Laura actually gives her some key advice for that race!She ran at Iowa State and Syracus…
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Mariana Fernández is a Peloton Tread, Yoga, and Meditation instructor who teaches classes in both English and Spanish and has connected with, and helped inspire, a massive and diverse community of athletes. Mariana was born in Mexico and grew up in San Diego in a big family that was led by her mother - a woman who was a trailblazer in the SoCal run…
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In this episode, you will hear about the power of domino effect habits and the power they can have to influence significant behavior change. Whether you are looking to do more of something, or less of something, creating a domino effect habit (or habit change) can be the key to making that change without calling upon endless motivational tactics or…
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This week on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim Episode rundown:Running etiquette in group runsLindsey’s big season of eventsSpring Energy ControversyOur fueling strategiesPeter’s unfollowing spree on InstagramWhy you should race more oftenThank you to our sponsor Like the Wind Magazine. Go to ⁠⁠https://www.likethewind…
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In this special episode, Laura Thweatt details her trials and tribulations over the past two years that preceded her reemergence at the Bolder Boulder 10k. Laura goes deep in the emotional and physical challenges that she worked through with the help of her coach, team, and local support system. We also go a detailed race recap, Laura finished seco…
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Seth Funderburg, an amazing coach with Run BMT in Orlando, FL, is the latest addition to the My Favorite Workout series. In this episode he details a speed day sessions and a hybrid tempo workout that hit a variety of paces and effort levels. You can learn more about Seth at www.instagram.com/run__bmt. Sponsors ASICS - Check out my favorite footwea…
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This week on group chat we have Peter Bromka, Matt Chittim, and a little bit of Lindsey Hein! We talk all about the Prefontaine Classic and Bolder Boulder as well as some YouTube running content we've been loving! Thank you to our sponsor Like the Wind Magazine. Go to ⁠https://www.likethewindmagazine.com/relay⁠ for a free magazine sent to you right…
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Kelsi Chappell, an accomplished runner from Rhode Island, shares her journey in running, overcoming hurdles, and grabbing a new marathon PR of 2:49 two weeks ago. She started running in high school and ran marathons with her dad. After running her first marathon, she qualified for the Boston Marathon, which sparked her passion for running. Despite …
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You have no idea what your potential is - none of us do. That isn't a negative. Instead, it's a HUGE positive with nearly unlimited opportunities. In this episode you will hear about an amateur runner and a professional runner who weren't handicapped by trying to prognosticate what their future held or guesses about what they were/are capable of. R…
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Peter Bromka, a 2:19 marathoner, coach, and one of the best writers in the running space, is the latest addition to the My Favorite Workout series. In this episode he details two speed day sessions that hit a variety of pace and effort levels. You can learn more about Peter's coaching business at https://pbrunning.co and read is writing at https://…
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On this week's group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, Peter Bromka, Tommie Runz, and Kofuzi.We talk all about our top picks for the track season - both from our head and our heart. Thank you to our sponsor Like the Wind Magazine. Go to https://www.likethewindmagazine.com/relay for a free magazine sent to you right away. You can cancel anyt…
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Today on the podcast we are talking about time. Specifically, how we use the time we have, are we waiting for the "right time" to start (Fun Fact: the right time almost never materializes), and how a busy schedule can often lead to better results than wide open one. At the end of the show we also talk about fueling long runs and races to stay in ac…
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Eric Floberg describes himself as "(j)ust a dad trying to run consistently, hit new goals, and motivate others to get into the running game!" But those who have seen his remarkable YouTube channel know that he much more than that. Eric has been documenting his running journey for years and has done a remarkable job of showing all the context and la…
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On this week's group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka and Laura Thweatt. Episode Rundown: The 776 women’s only track meet Michael Johnson’s new track meet Drake versus Kendrick Lamar Other results from this weekend Ketones Thank you to our sponsor Like the Wind Magazine. Go to likethewindmagazine.com/relay for a f…
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Today on the podcast we are talking about "desirable difficulties" and how they can shape who are as people in a way that can redefine what we think is possible. We are not talking about small are minor challenges. These are truly difficult situations that we view as such while they are happening and in the immediate aftermath. In those circumstanc…
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Welcome back to our bi-weekly "My Favorite Workouts" series. For the remainder of 2024 I'll be speaking with coaches and elite athletes about the workouts they love the most, why they love them, the distances/races they are best for, and alterations that can be made for people of differing abilities and fitness levels. In this episode I am joined b…
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In this episode I talk with my friends and Relay co-hosts Laura Thweatt, Peter Bromka, and Lindsey Hein about my decision to jump back into marathon training and document the entire process. After years of regret and feelings of shame about different aspects of my running life, I finally told myself to knock it off and become the person that you mo…
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Kelly Vigil in on the show to talk about a few topics that she has written eloquently about in the past: Mindset, imposter syndrome, using your fears to your benefit, and getting over perceived failures. Kelly is mom of three young kids, runner, certified V.02 run coach, and certified health mindset coach. She has run three 50ks, seven marathons, a…
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Welcome back to our bi-weekly "My Favorite Workouts" series. For the remainder of 2024 I'll be speaking with coaches and elite athletes about the workouts they love the most, why they love them, the distances/races they are best for, and alterations that can be made for people of differing abilities and fitness levels. In this episode I am joined b…
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Today on group chat we have Lindsey Hein, Tommie Runz, Marcus Brown, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Our hosts' race recaps The weather at Boston Singlets that never left the group chat Top pro performances at Boston Convincing Lindsey to train for a marathon The London Marathon Saying the F-word in races…
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Katie Arnold is back on the podcast and I couldn't be more excited!!! Katie was first on the show in 2019 when we talked about her amazing book Running Home. In this episode, Katie returns to talk about her new book that is out this week, Brief Flashings in the Phenomenal World. It’s about many things—love, friendship, running, mountains, rivers—an…
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Run form coaching is one of the most confusing and most fraught topics in the running space. "Experts" of varying backgrounds seemingly offer up advice from one end of the spectrum to the other. In this Coach's Corner episode, Stefanie Flippin and Peter Bromka speak with one of the world leaders in this field - Paul Mackinnon. Paul has worked with …
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Welcome to a new bi-weekly series called "My Favorite Workouts." For the remainder of 2024 I'll be speaking with coaches and elite athletes about the workouts they love the most, why they love them, the distances/races they are best for, and alterations that can be made for people of differing abilities and fitness levels. In our third episode of t…
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Mike and Lindsey catch up with Emma Grace Hurley fresh off World XC championships where Emma Grace place 35th and team USA finished 4th. This was her first time representing Team USA and she shares all about that experience! Emma Grace recently moved to Indianapolis to follow her coaches Andrew and Amy Begley where she runs with the Heartland Track…
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This episode with Dave Proctor is all about mindset. Dave set the fastest transcontinental time across Canada a few years ago in his second attempt. In doing so, Dave was able to master his mind in a way that is beneficial for all runners, no matter their ability or experience. You can read or listen to Dave's record setting trip in his new book Un…
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Today on group chat we have Kofuzi, Lindsey Hein, Tommie Runz, Marcus Brown, and Peter Bromka (and a tiny bit from Matt Chittim). Episode Rundown: Running with Laura Thweatt Altitude training The Speed Project World Cross Country Championships The Trail Network Podcast Irrational fears on the run How to fight off an alligator What animal you'd stay…
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In this episode, Stefanie Flippin provides a deep dive into Lululemon's FURTHER project. Stefanie is a Lululemon sponsored athlete who participated as an athlete, coach, and scientist. There has been many podcasts and articles published about FURTHER yet this may be the most detailed analysis released at this time. Stefanie shares her experience al…
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Today on group chat we have Kofuzi, Laura Thweatt, and Peter Bromka (and a tiny bit from Matt Chittim). Episode Rundown: Chicago Shamrock Shuffle Strava and Kudo Bombs Kofuzi's Trip to Jamaica for Champs Talent and Records at Champs The Impact of Connectivity on Talent Incubation Unique Aspects of Jamaican Track and Field The Precision and Techniqu…
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Ron Romano may be the happiest guy in running. Not only that, he’s worked hard to become one heck of a runner. He’s run 50+ marathons (with a PR of 2:40) and is a veritable wealth of knowledge on all things running. After taking a nine year break from racing he roared back with abandon and became an elite masters runner. He has also become a staple…
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Laura and Lindsey are back with the chat with a pro series with guest Lindsay Flanagan! Lindsay is an Asics sponsored athlete who went into the Olympic Marathon Trials as a heavy favorite to be in the top three. She placed 8th and in this episode Lindsay shares with us about how she is feeling after that finish and how she really felt during the ra…
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Welcome to a new bi-weekly series called "My Favorite Workouts." For the remainder of 2024 I'll be speaking with coaches and elite athletes about the workouts they love the most, why they love them, the distances/races they are best for, and alterations that can be made for people of differing abilities and fitness levels. In our second episode of …
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Today's show is a fun one that features Lindsey Hein, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim Topics: The L.A. Marathon - why does it lack the same acclaim as other major marathons, despite its size and community support. Creating a unique race experience and leaning into the difficulty of the course can help elevate a marathon's status. The id…
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From 20 to 40 years of age, Gary Koutsoubos gave up on running. The former high school and junior college runner had put that era of his life in the past. Instead, he opted for a sedentary lifestyle that left him overweight and unhealthy. After turning 40, Gary decided that enough was enough. Now at 48 years old, Gary is one of the best 45-49 year …
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