Mama Vi part 1

Sex Spoken Here

I'm sorry for the mix up, here is Mama Vi part 1:

Welcome to my virtual therapy room! I am Dr Lori Beth Bisbey and this is Sex Spoken Here. Remember that this podcast deals with adult themes so if you don’t have privacy you might wish to put on your headphones.

I had the privilege of interviewing Mama Vi Johnson when I was at Master slave Conference in August 2018. Viola Johnson is a leather woman, vampire and author who has been active in the leather BDSM scene for over three decades. A mentor and confidante to many in the fetish world, she has a special fondness for the ‘boys’ of our community, and those who choose to serve as slaves and sub missives. Viola is the wife of Jill Carter, International Ms Leather 1996.

Viola had the distinction of winning the “Lifetime Achievement Award” from Pantheon of Leather and The National Leather Association, making her the only person to receive both awards in the same year. In August of 2007 she was honored with the first Lifetime Achievement Award given by Black Beat. Viola is also the recipient of the Pantheon of Leather “Woman of the Year” award, The Jack Stice Award and the Slave Heart Award.

In January 2012, Viola received within 8 days of the Master Steve’s Golden Paintbrush Awards at Southwest Leather Conference in Arizona and the Leather Leadership Award at the Creating Change Conference in Baltimore sponsored by the Gay & Lesbian Task Force. Viola is the author of two books, Dhampir and To Love, To Obey, To Serve. Currently, she is working on her third book, a follow up To Love, To Obey, To Serve

Mama Vi and her wife Jill Carter started and hosted the Carter Johnson Leather library. It has a home in Indiana and a variety of outposts. Sections of the library are taken to many events so that the public can learn from the original source material about our leather and sexual history.

I started by asking Mama Vi about her fears for the future. She began by talking from an historian’s perspective about what it means when people cannot read cursive and when books are scanned and the paper versions are being destroyed. We spoke about the fact that recordings can be altered. So that facts can be changed, nuance lost, meanings lost. She points out that if a child can’t read cursive they must accept as fact what is shown to them.

We moved on to talk about the fact that often people feel desires and attractions often before they have words to explain them. So they feel odd and outcast and strange and if you don’t have the words – and give them the words – the negative impact is incredible. Low self-esteem, outcast, separate, others. Mama Vi talks about being filled with the family stories as she was growing up which helped her to know who she was and because she knew who she was, she had pride and she had the foundation that has lasted until this day. We spoke about the fact that we are not teaching our next generation who they are so they can have this foundation. She points out that why are not giving our children the armour that they need. There are retorts to all of the taunts (faggot, lesbian, pervert) but we are not teaching our children and so not giving them that armour and the world is getting tougher.

The passion that is the reasoning behind the library – is to give them the armour – ‘You don’t get to burn my kids history because ultimately that will mean you burn my kids.’ We ended part 1 starting to talk about sex education and the fact that in many places it has gone backwards. Children are being taught that all they need to know is abstinence.

For part 2 of this interview, listen to the A to Z of Sex Ò B is for Book Burning.

Part 3 is on Sex Spoken Here as an audio podcast only.

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