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Dr. Karen Wyatt, hospice physician and author of "7 Lessons for Living from the Dying," interviews experts on all aspects of the end-of-life, including: caring for the dying, funeral and burial practices, planning for the end-of-life, conscious dying, grief and loss, caregiver support, afterlife, death and the arts, and community initiatives to improve end-of-life care. Access show notes at www.eolupodcast.com
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Gia George and Dr. Karen Wyatt

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Join yoga and meditation instructor and singer-songwriter Gia George as she teams up with her Mom, doctor, author and speaker Karen Wyatt for lively conversations about life and all the lessons it teaches us. They will share their own hilarious and sometimes painful journeys as heart-centered entrepreneurs balancing business with higher consciousness. Discover the tools you need to navigate your own up and down path through this crazy life with honest and deep insights about relationships, h ...
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Listen to my conversations with the most interesting people you may not have come across yet. These conversations might not seem to have a lot in common at first. But just like songs on a mixtape, they create something memorable and emotional. So, let's press play and see what we learn about ourselves. I'm Bob Mathers, host of the Growth Mixtape podcast. I love chasing my curiosity; the further from my comfort zone, the better. I find the most powerful ideas, the ones that compel us to do bo ...
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Today I talk to Dr. Karen Wyatt, a renowned hospice doctor and author of What Really Matters: 7 Lessons for Living from the Stories of the Dying. Now before you press skip, this is not as heavy and morbid as it sounds. In fact, quite the opposite. This conversation was fun, inspiring and hopeful. Karen shares stories of people that learned at the v…
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Learn how a funeral director who is also an end-of-life doula merges “head and heart” in her work to help people prepare for the end of life. My guest Christa Ovenell is a licensed funeral director, an end-of-life doula, and the founder of Death’s Apprentice Education & Planning. She shares how she helps people think about, talk about, and prepare …
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Today, we talk with Marc Hogan, a renowned speaker and psychologist with a pretty interesting path from selling missiles, drugs and cigarettes to stand-up comedy and coaching leaders. LinkedIn is a funny place. It can be noisy and isolating like all social media is, but it can also create genuine connections - and that’s how I found Marc. There was…
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Learn why you should start a death collaborative in your community and tips for getting started. My guests this week are members of the Minnesota Death Collaborative and will share how the collaborative was created, including tips for others who might like to start a similar collaborative in their community or state. Michelle Kolling is a hospice v…
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Learn how death and grief are portrayed in pop culture through this new series that analyzes theater, film and music, starting with the Broadway musical Dear Evan Hansen. Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to suicide and grief after suicide so use your own discretion if these are sensitive topics for you. If you are struggling with t…
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So this is a fun little bonus episode where my producer Amy and I chat about the podcast and explore what we’ve learned from our first 20 episodes. This conversation turned out to be a lot more emotional than I expected. Since getting sober a couple of years ago, I’ve felt this sense of urgency to make the most of this last season of my career. I w…
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Learn how a palliative clinician and a researcher are helping to create a social movement for improving the patient and family experience of serious illness. This week I’m welcoming Drs. Sammy Winemaker and Hsien Seow, creators of The Waiting Room Revolution and authors of the book Hope for the Best Plan for the Rest. Sammy is a palliative care phy…
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Learn about some helpful episodes from the EOLU Archives that can show you how and why to start teaching others about death and dying. This week I’m sharing another “Podcast Playlist” which is a topic-focused deep dive into the archives of EOLU. I have created several anthologies of episodes that deal with specific subjects to make it easier for yo…
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Today we talk to Andrew Hunt, a history professor and best-selling author of Beatlemania in America: Fan Culture from Below. As a lifelong music fan, I feel like I’ve been preparing for this conversation my whole life. The truth is I’ve always been more of a Stones fan than a Beatles guy, but that doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate that they changed e…
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Learn some tips and tools for offering support to family caregivers tending a loved one on hospice. My return guest Gabby Jimenez is a hospice nurse, end-of-life doula, death and dying educator, author and blogger. She is the author/co-author of numerous books, including Dignity Day and The Doula Tool Kit and the host of The Hospice Heart community…
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Learn how a home funeral guide and an aqua cremation provider collaborate to help families care for a loved one’s body after death. My two guests this week are collaborators who work together to ensure that their clients can access family involved deathcare: Trina Wacasey is an end-of-life doula, home funeral guide and the founder of Creating Honor…
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Today, we talk to Dr. Tatiana Gwon, a renowned physicist who, after 20 years, went looking for answers in the most unconventional of places: astrology. This conversation challenged a lot of my biases and preconceptions of astrology because frankly, I’ve always thought it was gypsy crystal ball readers and Sunday morning horoscopes. Tatiana does a g…
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Learn about a book of quotes gathered by a compassionate oncologist from deep conversations with her patients. My guest Dr. Christina Gomez is a gastrointestinal medical oncologist at Banner MD Anderson Cancer Center. She is the author of the book Stopped in My Tracks: A Physician’s Collection of Cancer Patients’ Quotes, which she discusses today. …
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Learn all about end-of-life doulas from this comprehensive deep dive into the archives of EOLU Podcast! This week I’m sharing a new feature: the “Podcast Playlist” which is a topic-focused deep dive into the archives of EOLU. I’ve created several anthologies of episodes that deal with specific subjects that might interest you. This is to make it ea…
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Today we talk to Amy Shoenthal, a bestselling author, journalist and marketing consultant for some of the world's largest brands. We talk about her latest book, The Setback Cycle that explores the personal setbacks of prominent leaders and gives us a 4-step process for navigating our own. Maybe you’re in between jobs or in one that’s just not aweso…
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Learn about a guidebook that teaches how to offer appropriate nutrition for a loved one approaching death. This week I’m welcoming my recurring guest and friend Barbara Karnes RN, hospice nurse, author, thought leader and expert on end-of-life care and the dynamics of dying. Barbara is the author of Gone From My Sight, “the little blue book” used b…
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Today we talk to Bob London, or as I call him, "Mr. Curious." Bob is basically a professional listener. He is an expert in helping people connect and understand one another, and is the mastermind behind the concept of Radically Authentic Discovery. The idea of curiosity is something I’m incredibly passionate about and is the core idea behind this p…
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Learn about a grief book that combines personal experience with expert advice and a touch of humor. My guest Dina Gachman is a Pulitzer Center grantee, an award-winning journalist, and a frequent contributor to the New York Times, Texas Monthly, Vox, and more. She wrote her second book So Sorry for Your Loss: How I Learned to Live with Grief and Ot…
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Learn about the importance of sacred rituals and practices at the end of life. This interview was recorded several years ago with Kitty Edwards, a shamanic practitioner, public speaker, published author and master teacher. She served as the director of The Living and Dying Consciously Project and as the co-founder of The No Regrets Project. Kitty’s…
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Today, we talk to Jesse Finkelstein. Jesse is a book publishing insider and co-founder of Page Two Books, where she works with authors to bring their big ideas to the page. Have you ever said to yourself, ‘I think I might write a book? ' I have dozens of times. And if you’re wondering, no, I still haven’t written one. So I really loved Jessie's dem…
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Learn about a helpful tool for organizing all your records and files for your later years and your loved ones. My guest Maria Fraietta is the founder of The Nokbox, which is a complete system that helps you organize all of your accounts, possessions, social media presence, communities, kids, pets, personal history, and estate plans. Maria is a form…
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Learn how this hospice doctor’s important research sheds light on the dreams and visions of the dying and why they are meaningful. In this interview from the archives of EOLU my guest is Dr. Christopher Kerr who currently practices at Hospice Buffalo in Buffalo, NY. He is conducting a research project on the dreams and visions of his patients as th…
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Today we talk to Greg Bennick. He’s a punk rocker, activist, documentary filmmaker, philanthropist, keynote speaker, juggler and expert coin collector. He’s also written a new book, Reclaim the Moment: Seven Strategies to Build a Better Now. I could have talked to Greg for an hour about any one of these parts of his life - he’s got a way of making …
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Learn more about the continuing bonds theory and various ways it is beneficial for grievers. This special episode is a follow-up to the previous interview with Dina Stander about the phone of the wind. I’ll take a closer look at the Continuing Bonds theory of grief to see how using a wind phone might actually be helpful for grief. I’ll share excerp…
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Learn how the “phone of the wind” can help us establish continuing bonds with our loved ones who have died. My guest Dina Stander is an end-of-life navigator, funeral celebrant and burial shroud maker. She is also the founder of the Northeast Death Care Collaborative, an author and a propagator of phones of the wind, which she discusses today. Lear…
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Today, we talk to Peter Laughter. Peter is an expert in crafting stories and coaching people to find purpose in their lives and in their work. Peter talks about how growing up with dyslexia and ADHD drew him to storytelling as a way to cope with the world around him. He also shares practical tips on building your storytelling muscle to connect emot…
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Learn how two creators each facing serious illness came together to produce an award-winning masterpiece. My guests Christina Holbrook and Walker Vreeland are joining me today to talk about their personal stories of serious illness and facing mortality in the midst of working on a creative project. Numerous synchronicities and little miracles came …
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Today we talk to Kelsey Ramsden. Kelsey is an entrepreneur, author and speaker but if you ask her, she’d say she’s a creator. By 26, Kelsey was running her own construction company and was ranked the top female entrepreneur of the year by Profit magazine - 2 years in a row. Yet despite the financial success and industry accolades, she had never fel…
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Learn about a senior living community that is bringing end-of-life doula training to residents, thanks to the efforts of its chaplain. My guest Tom Waknitz is a chaplain and end-of-life doula who is working with Walker Methodist Senior Living Community to establish a unique end-of-life program for residents called Passages. He is certified by INELD…
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Learn about a powerful NY Times bestselling memoir that teaches how acknowledging our mortality helps us live a more authentic life. My guest Alua Arthur is the founder of Going With Grace, a death doula training and end-of-life planning organization. She is a frequent guest on television and radio and has been featured on CBS’s The Doctors and in …
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Today, we talk to Sylvia Baffour. Sylvia is a keynote speaker on emotional intelligence and has worked with leaders in 460 major corporations to help them better connect with their teams and customers. She was voted one of the top 15 female inspirational speakers alongside Mel Robbins and Oprah. Sylvia’s early journey was already unique and inspiri…
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Learn about an innovative model for compassionate end-of-life care that meets the needs of individuals and communities. My guest Dr. Bob Uslander is the co-founder, with his wife Elizabeth, of Empowered Endings, a unique palliative and end-of-life care model addressing the physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual needs of patients and famili…
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Learn about Rosie Grant’s unique project to memorialize those who have died by cooking their special recipes. My guest Rosie Grant has a library science degree from the University of Maryland and now works at UCLA as an archivist. She is well known on social media as a “cemetery tiktoker” who researches recipes found on gravestones in cemeteries ac…
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Today, we talk with Kerry O’Brien. Kerry is an expert in how people learn. He’s also a podcaster and public speaker devoted to helping people build new skills and strong teams. You’re going to leave this conversation with new ideas on how to ignite engagement in your customers, your teams and the people around you. We talk about the misconceptions …
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Learn how planning ahead for after-death care can help loved ones with grief and loss. My guest Jokotifa Alaye is a licensed funeral professional and NEDA certified end-of-life doula with a focus on grief. She created Mourning Space to fill the gaps in education and support that society requires for healthy grieving. She discusses the importance of…
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Learn how a physician creatively meets the needs of patients who don’t qualify for hospice services. My guest Dr. Kaishauna Guidry is an author, podcaster, healthcare advocate, mentor and educator. She came to medicine and hospice later in her career and founded Mourning Dove Medical as a private mobile medical practice, serving home-bound patients…
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Todd McTavish is a songwriter and it’s all he’s ever wanted to do. At 23, he left his small town home in Ontario and moved to LA. And at 53, he just signed his first record deal. Todd’s an old school, rock and roll troubadour. The stories come fast and hard. He recorded a Christmas song with Billy Bob Thornton, had one of his songs played at the Su…
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Learn about a movement with a goal to train 1 million death doulas around the world. My guest Suzanne O’Brien RN is the founder and CEO of Doulagivers Institute and a pioneer in the global death doula movement. She was awarded Worldwide Leader in Healthcare by the International Nurse Association and named Humanitarian Ambassador for Oprah Magazine …
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Learn about an informative and inspirational book to help seniors find love in their lives after experiencing loss through death or divorce. My special guests this week, Drs. Gloria Horsley and Frank Powers, are a senior couple who met later in life, after experiencing loss. Gloria is a marriage and family therapist and Frank is a psychologist so b…
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Learn how the concept of human-centered design can improve how we care for people at end of life and also how we operate our businesses. My guest Isabel Knight is a human-centered designer and end-of-life guide who founded The Death Designer to provide design services for deathcare businesses and non-profits. She is also the president of the Nation…
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Nicole Ferry is a 26-year veteran of law enforcement who’s on a mission to help others build resilience by sharing her heart-breaking stories of PTSD, trauma and suicide. Nicole is best known for her talk “What the Hell? The 3 Things I learned in the worst year of my life.” Nicole has spent her life in law enforcement. She holds a degree in Crimina…
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Learn about a powerful international model that calls for a public health approach to end-of-life care and how we are championing it in the U.S. This week I am hosting three guests who are my collaborators in a “think tank” on the Compassionate Communities Model: Elizabeth Johnson and Erin Collins of The Peaceful Presence Project and Qwynn Galloway…
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Learn about THE LAST ECSTATIC DAYS, a film about a young man with brain cancer in search of community, and the hospice doctor who gives up everything to honor his dying wish. My guest Dr. Aditi Sethi-Brown is a hospice and palliative care physician, end-of-life doula, and musician. She is the founder and executive director of the Center for Conscio…
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Sensi Graves is a professional kiteboarder, entrepreneur and speaker who’s on a mission to help people build self-confidence and share their amazing uniqueness with the world. Sensi shares how she used her time chasing summer around the world in kiteboarding competitions as inspiration to launch her swimwear company. And yet, as she looked back on …
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Learn about grief from the perspective of two hospice providers on their personal experiences of loss. This week I’m happy to be speaking once again to my recurring guest Barbara Karnes RN, hospice nurse, author, thought leader and expert on end-of-life care and the dynamics of dying. Barbara is the author of “the little blue book” used by hospices…
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Learn about contemplative practices for medical providers offered by the NY Zen Center for Contemplative Care. My guest Koshin Paley Ellison is an author, Zen teacher, and Jungian psychotherapist. He co-founded the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care, which offers contemplative approaches to care through education, personal caregiving, and Z…
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Jessica Stone is a Washington-based news correspondent and author of Crossing the Divide: 20 Lessons to Help You Thrive in Cross-Cultural Environments. Jessica has reported for USA Today, the Washington Times, Fox News, CBS News and the South China Morning Post. In this episode, Jessica shares stories from 20 years covering the intersection of busi…
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Learn how an innovative curriculum is tackling loneliness and social isolation in older adults and bridging the generation gap. My guest Dr. Jeremy Holloway is Assistant Professor and Director of Geriatric Education at the University of North Dakota. He discusses his research which focuses on the social determinants of health, specifically self-eff…
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Learn about a trilogy of documentary films that inform and inspire conversations about death, dying and the afterlife. My guest Johanna Lunn is an award-winning producer, director, and writer, who has crafted many compelling, entertaining, and profoundly thought-provoking programs during her 20+ years in the business. She is the director and produc…
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Tricia Mumby is a storyteller, entrepreneur and mentor to early-stage startups. Tricia is honest and vulnerable as she shares tough lessons from co-founding Mabel’s Labels with three best friends in a basement to selling it to the largest label company in the world. Tricia shares her take on celebrating failure, keeping your innovative spirit alive…
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