Design Systems Podcast interviews industry leaders and product makers to share best practices and explore the areas where design and development come together.
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A podcast from zeroheight. Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.
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Most business owners are too busy doing work for their customers to make critical improvements to their business. We created The Friday Habit Weekly Review System to show entrepreneurs around the world how to set aside one day every week to improve their businesses so they can stop feeling overwhelmed and make their businesses work for them.
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Wondering what’s involved in making a successful design system? So is Nef, the newest member of zeroheight’s marketing team. In this podcast, Nef is joined by one of zeroheight’s trustiest Design Advocates, Michelle Chin, to get their questions answered about everything related to the big world of design systems. If you’re eager to make the bestest design system ever, you’ve found the perfect place!
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A new podcast where Kevin Muldoon and guests wrangle with the big common problems that design systems face. Every episode, they’ll hogtie a challenge, give it a good once over, and share the best techniques they’ve found to conquer them, from dealing with inconsistency to naming to white-label systems.
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Design system consultants Amy Hupe and Geri Reid are going back to design systems school. In this series, Amy and Geri put aside their vocal and opinionated assumptions to dive deep on design systems topics; from Figma libraries to design tokens to deciding if AI can really write decent documentation. Climb aboard the school bus for a field trip on the history, the conversations and the foundations that really makes a design system great.It’s time to crack open the textbooks and head back to ...
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The American Civil War is perhaps the most significant event in American history. Its leaders, politics, battles, campaigns, and innovations have been studied throughout the world and continue to inspire awe in contemporary memory. This podcast will take the Civil War and trace the conflict from its origins to its campaigns and finally its aftermath and memory. Now grab your knapsack and rifle, fall in, and lets get marching!
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Lakeside Labs performs research at the intersection of information & communication technology and self-organizing & networked systems. These videos capture some seminar-style lectures from leading scientists from both areas.
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Who are my neighbors? Tune in to Out There to meet some of them. Out There airs every Tuesdays from 3 to 4 pm with me, Ruthy Woodring. Come with me and my recorder to meet people and plants and think about ways we can share the world.
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A new podcast hosted by award-winning journalist Liz Plank that offers emotional support to process the anxiety that accompanies an increasingly chaotic news cycle. The world is scary. But Liz’s guiding philosophy is not to distract you from bad news, it’s to help you understand it. The news needs therapy. Liz is here to help. Every week she’s joined by an expert, friend, or spiritual leader to try and help you understand yourself and the world, a little better.
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Why do we need to care more about patterns?
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In this episode, we’re focusing on patterns, the often-overlooked pillar of your design system. Why should we focus on patterns more than components? Are your components really as reusable as you think, or are they just static building blocks without a solid pattern to guide them?By zeroheight
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Why Kate Moran Thanks Humans Are Essential to the Future of Generative UI and AI.
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. What does the future of UX look like? In today's episode, our host, Chris Strahl, sits down with Kate Moran, the VP of Research and Content at Nielsen Norman Group. They explore the promise of hyper-personalized experiences, the challenges of resource limitations, and the innovative potential of AI in accele…
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Avoiding the Search for a Magic Pill With Jeremy Lessaris
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva In this conversation, Jeremy Lessaris shares his journey as a serial entrepreneur and the founder of multiple successful companies. He discusses his early experiences in building an online furniture retail business and the challenges he faced. Jeremy also talks ab…
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116 - Designed for success: How Guy Segal Built a Design System that Product Teams Want to Use.
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl welcomes Guy Segal, the director of digital ecosystem and design systems at Thomson Reuters. Guy shares his experience of building a design system that serves over 150+ brands and the importance of having a point of view when you are working to brin…
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The Evolution of SEO: Website Structure, Content, and Credibility
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In this episode, we explore the enigma that is design system versioning. How do we make sense of versioning? How do you sync versions between code, design, and documentation? Maybe it’s easier to ignore versioning, but at what cost?By zeroheight
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Following Through and Staying Focused: Achieving Goals in Business
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Beyond the Button #10: How do design systems foster user trust?
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This month, Michelle is joined by two new faces: Tim Legierse, one of the most tenured members of the zeroheight team, and Beau Ulrey, Sr. Design System Manager at U.S. Bank. This month’s discussion is about how design systems can foster user trust. Sure, a good set of reusable components can create a more consistent product. But what does that mea…
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Back to School #6: Accessibility and Design Systems
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Is there really such a thing as an accessible design system component? How can the systems team ensure accessible products? Geri and Amy turn the colour contrast up to 11:1 in their final podcast on accessibility.By Amy Hupe and Geri Reid
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva In this conversation, Mark and Ben are joined by Scott Albrecjt to discuss the hierarchy of team needs. They explore the importance of trust, honest feedback, vision, accountability, and autonomy in building a healthy and successful team. Scott shares insights fro…
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115 - Design System Sources of Truth: Transparency and Collaboration with Dropbox’s Mark Shuster
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. It’s all just opinions, man! In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, Mark Shuster talks about the shift away from enforcing strict guidelines through design systems towards enabling good design and production practices in a more transparent and collaborative way. Chris and Mark discuss different sourc…
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Episode 3: Manifest Destiny and Political Compromise
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Join us this week as we continue to explore the idea of Manifest Destiny and the political compromises as a result that led the nation closer toward civil war. Support the Show.By E. C. Zimmerman
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Has AI made everyone a designer? A spicy conversation with Pablo Stanley
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AI tools are transforming the landscape, making it easier than ever to create and design. Is this making everyone a designer? Will design system makers have to herd even more cats? We’ll be joined by special guest Pablo Stanley, the brilliant co-founder of two AI-based design tools, Musho and Lummi. We’ll unpack the potential of AI-based design too…
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How to Make a Million Dollar Business Machine!!!
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Join me as we explore the dark side of the American experience. The issue of slavery is one of the primary causes of the Civil War, making its understanding crucial in digesting future episodes, topics, and pathways to the war. Support the Show.By E. C. Zimmerman
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Kevin Killen, CEO of Aavos, discusses the future of artificial intelligence (AI) and its potential impact on society. He emphasizes the importance of understanding human emotions and using AI to serve and benefit humanity. Killen also addresses the hype surroundin…
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Balancing Control and Trust in Sales and Business
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva In this episode, Mark interviews John Alwinson, author of Relentless Sales, about his sales experience and how faith plays a role in his business. John shares his background in sales and entrepreneurship, including starting a footwear company in college. He emphas…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva In this episode, Mark and Benjamin interview Steve Schramm, the founder and CEO of Pro Membership Sites. Steve shares his journey of transitioning from a day job to starting his own business and the importance of building recurring revenue. They discuss the benefi…
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Understanding the root causes is key to grasping the depth of any conflict; the American Civil War is no exception. In this episode, we will explore some of the major social, economic, and political driving forces that helped generate the early roots of division between North and South and help guide the United States toward civil war. Support the …
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In this episode, we’re diving into the buzzworthy announcements and new feature releases that have the design community talking. We’ll share our opinions and insights on how these changes will impact design systems and workflows. Whether you missed the event or want a fresh perspective, tune in to catch up on all the highlights and WTF moments from…
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Our guest is Kimberly Elam, a writer, educator, and graphic designer who chairs the Graphic + Interactive Communication Department at the Ringling College of Art and Design, Sarasota, FL. She has written extensively about graphic design and design education whose books include Grid Systems, Typographic Systems and Geometry of Design. In this episod…
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114 - Design Systems and Ways of Working: Nick Hahn on Collaboration, Adoption, and AI
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. This week we are joined by Nick Hahn to explore how designers, engineers, product managers, and entire organizations have changed the way they think about and work with design systems. Nick shares insight from his experiences at IBM, InVision, Meta, and Bill.com to highlight the importance of collaboration, …
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Beyond the Button #9: Where does user research fit into design systems?
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As designers, we aim to be user-centered, but figuring out where to incorporate user research can be tricky. How do we add user research when there’s a demand for components ASAP? Is it weird to ask users how they would use a button? Join us as we explore how user research fits in with the evolution of your design system. We cover approaches for in…
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How do you prove the value of design systems?
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We tackle the fundamental question: “How do you prove the value of design systems?” What kind of metrics work? Why does the math seem so fuzzy? Are there any valid measurements? Based on our experiences and what we’ve seen with other teams, we share our thoughts and hot takes when it comes to advocating and validating your design system efforts.…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Recording during Config 2024, this bonus episode of The Design Systems Podcast features long-time friends of the Pod, Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye. They share their fresh takes on the latest Figma keynote, including the buzz around AI-generated designs and the revamped Figma UI. The conversation explores the…
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112 - Creating Effective Design Systems for Small and Mid-Size Companies: Apiture’s Journey
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Today’s episode features Ashley Willard and Sarah Kimball (Skim) from Apiture, a smallish fintech company with big enterprise ambitions for its design system. Host Christ Strahl chats with Ashley and Skim about the challenges and opportunities their small team faces trying to navigate the complexities of bui…
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Back to School #5: Design System Governance
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Does a centralized team provide the most effective design system governance model? Can a single overlord provide cohesion or just become a bottleneck? And can a federated model ever really work? Amy and Geri join the debate team to argue the pros and cons of design system governance.By Amy Hupe and Geri Reid
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They downsized the design system team; how do we survive?
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We navigate the challenges and uncertainties that arise when a design system team undergoes downsizing or restructuring. How do the design system team and teams who use the design system cope in this situation? We explore strategies for resilience, collaboration, and innovation in the face of adversity and discover how to thrive amidst organization…
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In this Design Systems Rodeo, Kevin talks to Elyse Holladay about how design systems make a positive impact and how to measure it.By Kevin Muldoon
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111 - How AI is Revolutionizing Design Systems and Customer Experiences with Dave Calleja
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl welcomes Dave Calleja back to the podcast to discuss the changing nature of design systems, integrating AI into the human creative process, and how to use behavior data for real-time design adaptations. Dave shares his views on the importance of design systems to customer experiences and how mod…
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Back to School #4: Naming in Design Systems
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There is already a name for most things on the web. So why do design systems put so much time and effort into naming things? Why is deciding on the name of a component more challenging than naming your child? Geri and Amy give names a roll call.By Amy Hupe and Geri Reid
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The 6 Levers Framework: A New Approach to Organizational Success with Shaun Lee
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What’s keeping design systems people up at night?
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In this episode, we answer some interesting design system questions from the Internet. With Luke away, Dave, our Developer Advocate, will joins Michelle. Sharing insights from a developer and designer perspective, respectively. Will Dave and Michelle see eye to eye or will we agree to disagree?By zeroheight
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Beyond the Button #8: How do you even start documenting patterns?
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You’ve created most or all your components, but now people are asking about patterns. In this episode, we break down the initial steps of documenting your patterns, which patterns to document first, and top tips when it comes to pattern documentation.By Michelle Chin and Nefertiti Dukes
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110 - The Evolution of ServiceNow's Design System with Meredith Van Lier
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Today on the podcast, we talk to Meredith Van Lier, the director of product management at ServiceNow. Chris and Meredith discuss the unique evolution of ServiceNow's design system and its shift towards a more flexible and user-centric design approach, emphasizing collaboration, automation, and accessibility.…
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Figma is currently dominating the design landscape and with good reason. They’ve taken what we’ve done with product and UX design and allowed us to do so much more than we used to be able to. With the release and continued improvement of Dev Mode, they’re hoovering up more use cases and raising the question: are we happy with a design tool being th…
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Beyond the Button #7: How do we collaborate around a design system?
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This time, we’re tackling how to collaborate on a design system. We’ll talk about the tools you should be using, who should be doing what, and how you can create a review and governance process that ensures your design system site is accurate and consistent.By Michelle Chin and Nefertiti Dukes
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Andrew created the APCA color contrast specification that will be introduced in WCAG3. In this interview, we talk about how Andrew became interested in the topic and why APCA compliance is necessary for accessibility.By Kevin Muldoon
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Is using a pre-built frontend library realistic?
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Today we ask, “Is using a pre-built frontend library realistic?” We look into the pros and cons of leveraging frontend libraries such as MUI, Tailwind, or Ant Design for your design system. Are these libraries a shortcut to success, or do they come with hidden complexities and limitations? Tune in as we dissect the practicality, scalability, and lo…
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How to Unmanage Your Team with Jack Skeels
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109. Making Design Systems Inclusive with Accessibility Specialist Daniel Henderson-Ede
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Welcome to another episode of The Design Systems Podcast! In honor of Global Accessibility Awareness Day, we're thrilled to have Daniel Henderson-Ede, an accessibility specialist, here to discuss the need for and challenges of making inclusive design experiences for those with disabilities, and how design sy…
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The Power of Systems and Processes in Business with Sarah Noel Block
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In this episode, Kevin Muldoon and Ben Callahan discuss the influence Design Systems have on the company and design culture.By Kevin Muldoon
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Ego Battles and Conformity Struggles: The Leadership Journey with Kyle McDowell
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Amy Hupe and Geri Reid are back in the class to teach you all about design tokens. They break it down, so you leave after acing the pop quiz. There’s a lot of chatter about design tokens. Why do you need tokens? And how do you architect them when there’s so much conflicting advice?By Amy Hupe and Geri Reid
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108. U.S. Bank’s Beau Ulrey on Building Trust Through Design Systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we're thrilled to have Beau Ulrey, the Design System Manager at U.S. Bank, join host Chris Strahl live at the Kiln space in Portland. Today’s episode deep dives into the intricate world where design meets development. Beau will share his fascinating journey from…
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Client Retention Revolution: Elevating Customer Experience with Richard Weylman
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Design systems should reflect what’s currently in your product, but it’s tempting to future-proof them. After all, getting the system up and running was a lot of work, so what’s the harm in adding a few new things? Future us will thank our past selves, right?By zeroheight
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Megan Gluth Bohan's Journey from Law to Leadership
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