The Pursuit of Health is a weekly podcast dedicated to a thorough exploration of the American Healthcare System at a critical time in our nation’s history. The podcast’s creator and host, Dr. Eric Fethke, is a pediatric cardiologist and educator trained at Columbia University, with over 25 years of experience practicing medicine. Students, professionals, and everyday people alike are invited to learn from guest experts who are pursuing groundbreaking work to improve America's health. Join us ...
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See, Hear, Feel - many of us do these without thinking much about them. Experts in psychology explain important concepts that will improve your ability to observe, listen, and manage emotions. Listen to amazing researchers and authors on subjects like emotional intelligence and everyday illusions, and also hear from doctors how they apply principles of cognitive psychology for better doctoring, health, and wellness.
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EP138: The Manic Culture of Medicine: Insights from Dr. Tamara Greenberg
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In this episode, the multifaceted emotional challenges faced by physicians and medical trainees are explored through the expert insights of Dr. Tamara Greenberg, a clinical psychologist specializing in adult mental health. Dr. Greenberg delves into the impact of early trauma, stress management, and the culture of emotional suppression in the medica…
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Ep57: Tackling Obesity Together is More Than Just a Pill - with Dr. Kara Mayes
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Send us a text Like so many other aspects of our healthcare system, obesity is a health equity issue. Today we welcome Dr. Kara Mayes, Chief Medical Officer of Ilant Health, a company focused on value-based obesity management and cardiometabolic health. Dr. Mayes joins us to cast a lens on obesity in America, during a time that weight loss drugs ha…
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EP137: Balancing Life and Emergency Medicine: A Conversation with Dr. Dara Kass
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Navigating Gender Equity, Mental Health, and Personal Resilience in Medicine with Dr. Dara Kass In this comprehensive episode, we join Dr. Dara Kass—strategic consultant, healthcare communicator, and emergency medicine physician—as she delves into her advocacy for gender equity and mental health within the medical field. Dr. Kass sheds light on her…
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EP136: Unlocking Wellness One Night at a Time: Dr. Won Explains Sleep's Impact
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Understanding Sleep with Dr. Christine Won: Importance, Disorders, and Practical Tips In this episode, Christine welcomes Dr. Christine Won, an Associate Professor of Medicine at Yale University and a leading expert in sleep medicine. Dr. Won shares insights on how sleep disorders uniquely affect women, the importance of sleep, common misconception…
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Ep56: The (Dangerous) History of Consumerism in American Healthcare-Prof. Nancy Tomes
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Send us a text “Medical consumerism figures more as a problem than progress.” Today’s guest is the award-winning historian, American public health expert, and author, Professor Nancy Tomes. In a discussion encompassing past, present, and future, Professor Tomes provides a unique historical lens to better understand the healthcare challenges of toda…
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EP135: How Do You Feel? Exploring Mental Health in Medicine with Dr. Jessi Gold
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In this episode of the Girl Doc Survival Guide podcast, Dr. Jessi Gold, a board-certified psychiatrist and Chief Wellness Officer at the University of Tennessee, discusses the critical issue of mental health among healthcare professionals. Dr. Gold delves into the stigmas that prevent doctors from seeking help for burnout, depression, and anxiety. …
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Ep55: Pediatric Care: An Investment in Our Future-Dr.Alison Curfman
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Send us a text Investment in pediatric care is an investment in our future. So why is our system slow to change? Enter Alison Curfman, MD - co-founder of Imagine Pediatrics, a value-based pediatric medical group pioneering tech-enabled care for chronically ill children. Alison is passionate about improving outcomes, reducing costs, supporting paren…
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EP134: Girl Doc Survival Guide: Embracing a Transformative Experience
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Introducing the Girl Doc Survival Guide: A Rebranding Journey and Embracing Transformative Experiences in Healthcare and Life In this episode of the newly rebranded podcast, Girl Doc Survival Guide, host Christine and producer Jamie Slevin introduce the rebranding from SEE HEAR FEEL. The conversation delves into the reasons behind the change and di…
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Ep54: How To Make Healthcare Affordable-Ron Howrigon
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Send us a text The only barrier to success in the Pursuit of Health is ourselves. Joining to contribute to our ongoing healthcare conversation, is self-described “recovering managed care executive” Ron Howrigon. As President and CEO of Fulcrum Industries, Ron is in the business of helping physicians and hospitals with negotiations for managed care …
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EP133: Thrive in Medicine: The Girl Doc Survival Guide
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In this inaugural rebranding episode, Christine announces changing SEE HEAR FEEL to the Girl Doc Survival Guide podcast. The focus will be on navigating the high-stress, high-stakes world of healthcare, aiming not just to survive but to flourish. Featuring discussions with doctors, psychologists, and mental health experts, the podcast will explore …
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EP132: Embracing Failure: Dr. Yemi Sokumbi on Innovation and Perseverance in Healthcare
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine speaks with Dr. Yemi Sokumbi, a dermatologist and dermatopathologist at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida, who is also the head of medical business development. They discuss key takeaways for innovation in healthcare, including the importance of embracing failure, solving familiar problems, and cr…
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EP131: Beyond Diagnosis: Enhancing Doctor-Patient Bonds with Dr. Eric Fethke
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This episode of SEE HEAR FEEL is an edited version of an episode from the podcast, The Pursuit of Health with Dr. Eric Fethke. Dr. Fethke and I talk about my journey in healthcare, professionally and personally. The discussion emphasizes the importance of improving doctor-patient connections through empathy and psychological understanding. Key topi…
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EP130: How Our Bodies Shape Our Minds: Insights from Dr. Dennis Proffit
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Dennis Proffitt, Commonwealth Professor of Psychology, Emeritus at University of Virginia, shares insights from his expansive research on perception and interoception. Dr. Proffitt discusses how social, emotional, and physical factors influence how people perceive space, including practical examples from his re…
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EP129: Navigating Diagnostic Discordance in Dermatopathology with Dr. Gregory A. Hosler
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Christine J. Ko welcomes Dr. Gregory A. Hosler, president of the Dermatopathology Division of Sonic Healthcare USA. The conversation delves into his recent study on diagnostic discordance in dermatopathology, exploring its implications for patient management and highlighting the importance of ancillary testing and …
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Ep53: How to Improve The Doctor-Patient Connection-Dr Christine Ko
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Send us a text A conversation with Dr. Christine Ko Metacognition, growth mindset, compassion. How does this all tie into healthcare? Enter Dr. Christine Ko, Professor of Dermatology and Pathology at Yale University, and author of How to Improve Doctor-Patient Connection: Using Psychology to Optimize Healthcare Interactions. Drawing from her experi…
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EP128: Understanding Behavior Through Physiology: Dr. Benno Torgler's Approach
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine welcomes Dr. Benno Torgler, a Professor of Economics at Queensland University of Technology. They discuss Dr. Torgler's fascinating journey from mechanical engineering to economics and his significant research on heart rate variability (HRV). The conversation delves deep into the integration of physi…
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EP127: Expert Perspectives: Dr. Rosalie Elenitsas on Dermatopathology and Lifelong Learning
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Rosalie Elenitsas from the University of Pennsylvania shares her extensive experience in dermatopathology. She discusses her career journey, the importance of daily consensus conferences, learning from junior colleagues, and managing work-life balance. Dr. Elenitsas also offers valuable advice on building a sup…
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Ep52: The Overmedication Crisis - Dr. Michael Smith
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Send us a text A conversation with Dr. Michael Smith Medication is sometimes required. But prevention starts with the patient. This is one of the core philosophies of this week’s guest Dr. Michael Smith. Naturopathic physician, and founder of Focused Family Integrative Medicine, he is dedicated to preventative medicine - advocating for sleep, exerc…
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EP126: AI, Medicine, and the Human Touch: A Discussion with Dr. Gauri Agarwal
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Gauri Agarwal, an associate professor and associate dean of curriculum at the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, discusses the importance of integrating visual thinking strategies into medical education. Dr. Agarwal shares a touching anecdote about a hospital chaplain during the pandemic to explor…
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Ep51: How To Create a Health System That Actually Works-Dr. Jeffrey Charles Hardy
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Send us a text A conversation with Dr. Jeffrey Charles Hardy The system is not the solution, the process is the solution. In our fragmented healthcare system, how can we start thinking globally? What impact do our actions hold for the planet and all its people? Dr. Jeffrey Charles Hardy is an author, thought leader, Founder and President of Care fo…
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EP125: Pathways to Balance: Dr. Alejandro Gru on Burnout and Continuous Learning
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Managing Burnout and Continuous Learning with Dr. Alejandro Gru In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Alejandro Gru, an esteemed dermatopathologist and professor, discusses his strategies for managing burnout, including family support, travel, and exercise. He emphasizes the importance of continuous learning through interactions with trainees and c…
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Ep50: How To Persevere As A Family When Faced With A Child’s Heart Defect-Justin and Ashley George
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Send us a text A conversation with Justin and Ashley K. George Resilience is a muscle. The challenges don’t get easier, we just get stronger at handling them. A couple who know this from experience are Justin and Ashley K. George. When their son Elliot was diagnosed with a heart defect, it took everything for them to stay strong amidst the crisis, …
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EP124: Life Lessons from a Dermatopathology Legend, Dr. Phillip McKee
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A Conversation with Dr. Phillip McKee: Balancing Passion, Work, and Wellness In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, I reconnect with Dr. Phillip McKee, a renowned dermatopathologist and author. We discuss Dr. McKee's career, his experiences with burnout, and the role his wife played in helping him manage his workload. Dr. McKee reflects on the challenge…
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Ep49: Why Money Poisons Healthcare-Dr.. Ellana Stinson
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Send us a text A conversation with Dr Ellana Stinson Money affects everything in American healthcare. And too often, it gets in the way. Taking the bull by the horns is Dr. Ellana Stinson. Having felt the frustration of cost-cutting on the frontline, she chose to do an MBA in finance - seeking to better understand how mysterious financial bodies - …
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EP123: Overcoming the Fear of Failure: A Conversation with Dr. Yemi Sokumbi
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, we continue our insightful conversation with Dr. Olayemi 'Yemi' Sokumbi, MD, a dermatologist and dermatopathologist at Mayo Clinic. Dr. Sokumbi discusses her struggles with the fear of failure, especially as an immigrant and a Black woman in a high-stakes profession. She highlights the concept of stereotype threat …
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EP122: Dr. Yemi Sokumbi on Finding Joy and Purpose Beyond Professional Success
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, host Christine sits down with Dr. Olayemi 'Yemi' Sokumbi, a dermatologist and dermatopathologist at Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida. Dr. Sokumbi, also the Medical Director for Business Development, shares her personal journey towards finding joy and purpose beyond her career achievements. Through personal anec…
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EP121: Exploring Medical Humanities and Physician Well-being with Dr. Dean Gianakos: Part Two
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Dean Gianakos returns to discuss his role as Chief Academic Officer at Centra Health, his interest in medical humanities, and his journey with The Pharos journal. Dr. Gianakos shares an inspiring anecdote about the poet John Stone and reflects on themes of burnout and personal growth through the metaphor of whi…
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EP120: Combating Burnout: Insights from Emotional Intelligence and Lifestyle Tips
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This episode of SEE HEAR FEEL presents a compilation from episodes 101 to 119, focusing on combating burnout in high-stress professions through emotional intelligence and practical lifestyle tips. It features insights from experts like Dr. Art Papier on physician burnout, Dr. Dean Gianakos on emotional intelligence in leadership, and Dr. Angelina H…
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Ep48: Case Studies From The Heart - Immigration & Healthcare -Dr. Eric Fethke
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Send us a text Welcome to our third installment of our Case Studies From The Heart series. In the episode, Dr. Fethke shines a light on the topic of immigrant healthcare, by sharing his own experience successfully treating a young child from Honduras with Turner’s syndrome. Immigrant healthcare can be a controversial and heavily politicized topic, …
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EP119: Understanding Leadership Styles and Emotional Intelligence with Dr. Dean Gianakos
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In this episode of SEE HEAR FEEL, Dr. Dean Gianakos, Chief Academic Officer at Centra Health, discusses the DiSC assessment, a tool used to evaluate leadership styles, and its role in enhancing emotional intelligence. He shares personal anecdotes about navigating different leadership styles and the importance of effective communication in building …
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Ep47: How Healthcare and Social Media Unite to Create a Healthier America - Dr. Austin Chiang
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Send us a text Is it time to revamp medical education? This week’s guest, Dr. Austin Chiang, certainly thinks so. Leading an already distinguished career, Dr. Chiang is a top gastroenterologist, Chief Medical Officer of the Endoscopy division of Medtronics, Founding President of the Association for Healthcare Social Media (AHSM), and the author of …
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= Therefore, let us rejoice! This is a poem by Dr. John Stone, and every time I read it, I am reminded of some of the essential parts of doctoring, both good and bad. It's graduation season (schools as well as training programs) - please share with your graduates, particularly those in healthcare. Dr. Benjamin Doolitle (who was on episode 97) share…
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EP117: William Deresiewicz on living a life you are excited to wake up to
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What kind of life do you really want to be living? What kind of life has meaning for you? And if you have children, and even, like me, have ones thinkinga about college, what kind of life should they be thinking about? This was a true privilege to speak with William Deresiewicz and hear his thoughts on these questions. William Deresiewicz is an Ame…
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Ep46: The Patient-Led Revolution with Susannah Fox
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Send us a text 70% of U.S. adults have accessed health information online in the past year. A revealing statistic, highlighting the increasing reliance on digital resources for healthcare guidance. As this week’s guest, Susannah Fox, illuminates, patient-led healthcare holds tremendous potential for transforming our health systems. With her extensi…
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EP116: Dr. Art Papier on the right questions
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Dr. Art Papier believes we are focusing on the wrong questions in medicine, and for the best care of patients, we need augmented intelligence. Dr. Art Papier, MD is Chief Executive Officer and co-founder of VisualDx. He is a dermatologist, medical informatics expert, and Associate Professor of Dermatology and Medical Informatics at the University o…
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Ep45: Revolutionizing Autism Care and Improving Outcomes with Daniel Etra
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Send us a text This week's guest is in the business of maximizing outcomes. A self-described "reformed investment banker", Daniel Etra is the co-founder and CEO of Rethink, a data-driven company changing the face of neurodivergent care. He talks passionately about the vast social impact of their operations, teaching frontline clinicians, empowering…
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EP115: Dr. Todd Horowitz (Part 2) on Chemo Brain!!!
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I didn't really know chemo brain is "real" until just recently. Dr. Todd Horowitz has done research on "chemo brain" - with the better term being "cancer-related cognitive impairments", or CRCI. CRCI is real, find out how it manifests, and what can help. (Spoiler alert: it is mental and physical exercise!) Todd Horowitz, PhD, is a prominent cogniti…
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Ep 44: Healing, Well-Being and Adverse Childhood Experiences with Julika von Stackelberg
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Send us a text 64% of U.S. adults have had adverse childhood experiences. A stark statistic, and one that we are paying the cultural and economic cost of. As this week’s guest Julika von Stackelberg tells us, these experiences in our youth have a direct impact on our life expectancy and wellbeing in our lives. Through her work as a peaceful parenti…
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EP114: Dr. Todd Horowitz on medical image perception, AI, and collaboration
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There is so much that we don't know in medicine, plus there is human error, and it would be great if AI could help. Dr. Todd Horowitz is an expert in attention and research on medical image perception. We talk about what you can see in a quick glance, how computer algorithms can fail, and how best to figure out how AI can help us. Dr. Todd Horowitz…
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EP113: Dr. Krista Aronson PhD on picture books, extended contact, and central identity
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I've always thought that (a) book(s) can change the world. Books have definitely changed me. Picture books are a format that I got more familiar with as an adult reading to my children, and as a genre, I think they are hugely important. Dr. Krista Aronson is a psychologist whose work bridges my interest in picture books with my attempts to more ful…
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Ep 43: Overmedicated America, Advocacy and Patient-Centred Medicine, with Patrick Alonso
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Send us a text We have a problem with prescriptions. A major problem. We take a step back from our recent policy-focused guests, to welcome licensed pharmacist, host of Men's Health Unscripted podcast, and founder of Your Tampa Healthcare Advocate, Patrick Alonso. Patrick is on the front line with patients, and was empowered to change the tide of p…
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EP112: Dr. Susan Ko on reputation vs. intent
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360 degree leadership evaluations are common in the corporate world. Really thinking about the meta-skills of leadership (and learning them) is not something that I typically do in my position as a dermatologist/dermatopathologist without a formal leadership role in. my academic department. Through this conversation with my sister, whose job is to …
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EP111: Dr. Duje Tadin on visual perception and expertise
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Dr. Duje Tadin studies visual perception, and his take on what we see is that it is messy. I enjoyed hearing his thoughts on System 1 and System 2 as they relate to what we see in different domains. Dr. Duje Tadin, PhD is a neuroscientist renowned for his groundbreaking research in the field of visual perception. He is currently Professor and Chair…
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Ep42: Sepsis, Early Detection and Hope Through Diagnosis: with Dr. Robert Scoggins
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Send us a text It’s time to get to grips with sepsis. The statistics are stark: sepsis is killing 250,000 people in our country every year - and yet we’re still only getting to grips with why it happens, how we can identify it, and how we ensure effective treatment. On a mission to better our understanding is Dr. Robert Scoggins, a leading figure i…
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EP110: Dr. Ricardo Nuila (Part 2) on disaster syndrome, burnout, and beauty
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I am still turning this over in my head, that Dr. Ricardo Nuila says the purpose of Arts and Humanities is...beauty. I have not thought of it in that way before, and he has really made me think about the role of beauty in my life, in my work, in small and big spaces of good and bad. I think this is a must listen! Dr. Ricardo Nuila, MD is an Associa…
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Ep41: Healthcare From The White House with Dr Don Berwick
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Send us a text “In the United States we don’t ration medicine, we ration people.” We are honored this week to welcome an esteemed author, pediatrician, educator and co-founder of the Institute for Healthcare Improvement, Dr. Don Berwick. Dr. Berwick has dedicated his career to reigniting our healthcare system, to ensure it can meet the needs of dis…
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EP109: Dr. Ricardo Nuila on algorithmania and the humanities in medicine
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Emily Dickinson was one of the first poets that I was introduced to when I was younger, and Dr. Ricardo Nuila refers to one of her lines, Tell the truth but tell it slant. We talk about this, about nuance and context, and how that relates to algorithmania. It comes back to metacognition, gestalt vs algorithmic thinking. Dr. Ricardo Nuila, MD is an …
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Ep40: Reversing Traditional Incentives, Access To Healthcare and Community: with Dr. Andrea J. Boudreaux
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Send us a text We need to transition our industry from being about sickness, to being about wellness. Imagine a system that rewarded providers for keeping patients well; that reimbursed practices for patients with better metrics. That’s the type of system dreamt of by this week’s guest, Dr. Andrea J. Boudreaux, Executive Director of Children’s Scho…
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EP108: Dr. Bruce Smoller part 2! on visual diagnosis and thinking
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I love talking about metacognition, in hopes of improving how I think, how I diagnose, and how I learn. Dr. Smoller loves to teach and is interested in learning theory, and he has active research experience in learning/teaching visual recognition through pattern recognition, fast thinking. And yet, algorithmic thinking (slow thinking) is important,…
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Ep39: Rural Healthcare, Vulnerability, and Community with Dr David Schreiner
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Send us a text It’s time to talk about rural healthcare. Enter this week’s guest, Dr. David Schreiner, PhD, who is fresh off the press with his new book Be The Best Part of Their Day. As President and CEO of Katherine Shaw Bethea Hospital in Dixon, Illinois, David knows the intricacies of delivering healthcare in rural communities with compassion a…
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