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A new podcast where Kevin Muldoon and guests wrangle with the big common problems that design systems face. Every episode, they’ll hogtie a challenge, give it a good once over, and share the best techniques they’ve found to conquer them, from dealing with inconsistency to naming to white-label systems.
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The Friday Habit

Mark Labriola II & Benjamin Manley

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Most business owners are too busy doing work for their customers to make critical improvements to their business. We created The Friday Habit Weekly Review System to show entrepreneurs around the world how to set aside one day every week to improve their businesses so they can stop feeling overwhelmed and make their businesses work for them.
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A podcast from zeroheight. Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.
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Design Systems: Beyond The Button

Michelle Chin and Nefertiti Dukes

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Wondering what’s involved in making a successful design system? So is Nef, the newest member of zeroheight’s marketing team. In this podcast, Nef is joined by one of zeroheight’s trustiest Design Advocates, Michelle Chin, to get their questions answered about everything related to the big world of design systems. If you’re eager to make the bestest design system ever, you’ve found the perfect place!
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The American Civil War is perhaps the most significant event in American history. Its leaders, politics, battles, campaigns, and innovations have been studied throughout the world and continue to inspire awe in contemporary memory. This podcast will take the Civil War and trace the conflict from its origins to its campaigns and finally its aftermath and memory. Now grab your knapsack and rifle, fall in, and lets get marching!
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Design system consultants Amy Hupe and Geri Reid are going back to design systems school. In this series, Amy and Geri put aside their vocal and opinionated assumptions to dive deep on design systems topics; from Figma libraries to design tokens to deciding if AI can really write decent documentation. Climb aboard the school bus for a field trip on the history, the conversations and the foundations that really makes a design system great.It’s time to crack open the textbooks and head back to ...
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Out There

Ruthy Woodring

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Who are my neighbors? Tune in to Out There to meet some of them. Out There airs every Tuesdays from 3 to 4 pm with me, Ruthy Woodring. Come with me and my recorder to meet people and plants and think about ways we can share the world.
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A new podcast hosted by award-winning journalist Liz Plank that offers emotional support to process the anxiety that accompanies an increasingly chaotic news cycle. The world is scary. But Liz’s guiding philosophy is not to distract you from bad news, it’s to help you understand it. The news needs therapy. Liz is here to help. Every week she’s joined by an expert, friend, or spiritual leader to try and help you understand yourself and the world, a little better.
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva In this conversation, Mark and Ernesto discuss various topics including podcasting, rebranding, building systems, and baking challah bread. Ernesto shares his experience with podcasting and the benefits it has brought him in terms of learning how to speak, hold sp…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Barbara Richter, founder of DIY Books and Ink Ghostwriting, shares her journey as an entrepreneur in the book writing industry. She discusses the services her companies provide, including tools and resources for individuals to craft their own stories and a premier…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Kevin Killen, CEO of Aavos, discusses the future of artificial intelligence (AI) and its potential impact on society. He emphasizes the importance of understanding human emotions and using AI to serve and benefit humanity. Killen also addresses the hype surroundin…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva In this episode, Mark interviews John Alwinson, author of Relentless Sales, about his sales experience and how faith plays a role in his business. John shares his background in sales and entrepreneurship, including starting a footwear company in college. He emphas…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva In this episode, Mark and Benjamin interview Steve Schramm, the founder and CEO of Pro Membership Sites. Steve shares his journey of transitioning from a day job to starting his own business and the importance of building recurring revenue. They discuss the benefi…
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Understanding the root causes is key to grasping the depth of any conflict; the American Civil War is no exception. In this episode, we will explore some of the major social, economic, and political driving forces that helped generate the early roots of division between North and South and help guide the United States toward civil war.…
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Our guest is Kimberly Elam, a writer, educator, and graphic designer who chairs the Graphic + Interactive Communication Department at the Ringling College of Art and Design, Sarasota, FL. She has written extensively about graphic design and design education whose books include Grid Systems, Typographic Systems and Geometry of Design. In this episod…
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This week we are joined by Nick Hahn to explore how designers, engineers, product managers, and entire organizations have changed the way they think about and work with design systems. Nick shares insight from his experiences at IBM, InVision, Meta, and Bill.com to highlight the importance of collaboration, governance, education, and cultural adopt…
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We tackle the fundamental question: “How do you prove the value of design systems?” What kind of metrics work? Why does the math seem so fuzzy? Are there any valid measurements? Based on our experiences and what we’ve seen with other teams, we share our thoughts and hot takes when it comes to advocating and validating your design system efforts.…
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As designers, we aim to be user-centered, but figuring out where to incorporate user research can be tricky. How do we add user research when there’s a demand for components ASAP? Is it weird to ask users how they would use a button? Join us as we explore how user research fits in with the evolution of your design system. We cover approaches for in…
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Recording during Config 2024, this bonus episode of The Design Systems Podcast features long-time friends of the Pod, Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye. They share their fresh takes on the latest Figma keynote, including the buzz around AI-generated designs and the revamped Figma UI. The conversation explores the future of design systems, deeper code in…
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Today’s episode features Ashley Willard and Sarah Kimball (Skim) from Apiture, a smallish fintech company with big enterprise ambitions for its design system. Host Christ Strahl chats with Ashley and Skim about the challenges and opportunities their small team faces trying to navigate the complexities of building a design system that unifies the lo…
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We navigate the challenges and uncertainties that arise when a design system team undergoes downsizing or restructuring. How do the design system team and teams who use the design system cope in this situation? We explore strategies for resilience, collaboration, and innovation in the face of adversity and discover how to thrive amidst organization…
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Chris Strahl welcomes Dave Calleja back to the podcast to discuss the changing nature of design systems, integrating AI into the human creative process, and how to use behavior data for real-time design adaptations. Dave shares his views on the importance of design systems to customer experiences and how modern tools help scale personalized experie…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Welcome to another exciting episode of The Friday Habit! Today, we have Shaun Lee joining us to dive into an important topic many organizations struggle with. Ever wondered why pinpointing individual employees or leaders often misses the mark when solving organiza…
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Today on the podcast, we talk to Meredith Van Lier, the director of product management at ServiceNow. Chris and Meredith discuss the unique evolution of ServiceNow's design system and its shift towards a more flexible and user-centric design approach, emphasizing collaboration, automation, and accessibility. Learn about the strategic vision, collab…
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Figma is currently dominating the design landscape and with good reason. They’ve taken what we’ve done with product and UX design and allowed us to do so much more than we used to be able to. With the release and continued improvement of Dev Mode, they’re hoovering up more use cases and raising the question: are we happy with a design tool being th…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Join us as Jack Skeels dives into the fascinating world of 'unmanagement' and redefines the role of managers in today's organizations. In this engaging conversation, Jack challenges traditional notions of control and instead, champions authority and empowerment. H…
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Today we ask, “Is using a pre-built frontend library realistic?” We look into the pros and cons of leveraging frontend libraries such as MUI, Tailwind, or Ant Design for your design system. Are these libraries a shortcut to success, or do they come with hidden complexities and limitations? Tune in as we dissect the practicality, scalability, and lo…
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Welcome to another episode of The Design Systems Podcast! In honor of Global Accessibility Awareness Day, we're thrilled to have Daniel Henderson-Ede, an accessibility specialist, here to discuss the need for and challenges of making inclusive design experiences for those with disabilities, and how design systems can help. Daniel shares why and how…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Alright, buckle up for this episode! Mark and Ben are joined by the one and only Sarah Noel Block, the brain behind Tiny Marketing. They dive into the nitty-gritty of why having solid systems and processes in your business is like adding rocket fuel to your succes…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Kyle McDowell takes us on his journey from a cramped cubicle to leading a massive team, focusing on a shift towards 'we'-oriented leadership. He really hammers home the idea that making a difference and nurturing genuine connections matter more than just climbing …
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On this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we're thrilled to have Beau Ulrey, the Design System Manager at U.S. Bank, join host Chris Strahl live at the Kiln space in Portland. Today’s episode deep dives into the intricate world where design meets development. Beau will share his fascinating journey from a design and photography background to b…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Welcome to another episode of The Friday Habit! Today, Mark and Ben chat with Richard Weylman, the mastermind behind '100 Proven Ways to Acquire and Keep Clients for Life.' Richard's journey from selling cookware door-to-door to becoming a guru in speaking and cus…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva The Friday Habit: Megan Gluth Bohan's Journey from Law to Leadership This episode of The Friday Habit features Megan Gluth Bohan, an award-winning entrepreneur, CEO & Owner of Catalynt Solutions, Inc. (formerly TRInternational, Inc.) and owner of ChemBlend of Amer…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Welcome back to The Friday Habit! In part two of our interview with Jeremy Ryan Slate, we continue our exploration of how embracing the concept of "good enough" can lead to greater success for businesses and teams. Jeremy expands on the idea that the pursuit of pe…
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We examine that critical phase in the life of a design system: moving beyond the Minimum Viable Product (MVP). Launching an MVP is just the beginning, but what comes next? Michelle and Luke discuss strategies for advocating for more resources, ensuring your work is recognized and adequately resourced, and not just seen as a “free” addition from you…
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Join host Chris Strahl as he welcomes our guest Scott Strubberg to the Design Systems Podcast. Scott is a product manager and a key figure behind IBM's Carbon Design System. Today’s conversation unravels the complexities and innovations of integrating brand consistency across digital and physical realms. Chris and Scott explore how feedback and com…
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https://www.leadfeeder.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=body&utm_campaign=brandviva Welcome to another episode of The Friday Habit! Today, we've got the one and only Jeremy Ryan Slate, CEO of Command Your Brand, joining us for an enlightening chat. Jeremy is here to unravel the joys and challenges of the entrepreneurial journey, shedding light on…
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We sit down with Brad Frost, a leading voice in design systems. Together, we explore the critical intersection between adaptable design systems and brand identities, unveiling the secrets to creating components that not only function seamlessly across platforms but also resonate with diverse brand aesthetics. Listen in as we discuss the layers of a…
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Recess is over! Amy Hupe and Geri Reid are back in the classroom with the next episode of Back to School. This time, they talked about all of Figma UI kits. Are you a real design system without a Figma UI kit? Does it need to be a pixel-perfect copy of your code? What’s the source of truth? More pressingly, can a Figma library BE your design system…
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We tackle a question that often gets overlooked in the world of design systems: Is there room for fun and delight? Sure, components are the workhorses of design systems, known for their functionality and consistency, but does that mean they have to be dull? We’ll explore the possibilities of infusing a bit of charm and personality into your design …
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Informatica's design and AI director, Ranjeet Tayi doing us on the Design Systems Podcast to discuss AI's transformative impact on design systems, elucidating the shift from static products to dynamic, personalized AI-driven experiences. Chris and Ranjeet navigate through the intricacies of AI's influence on crafting hyper-personalized interfaces, …
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In this episode, we’re talking about something everyone seems to struggle with: measuring the impact of their design system. Should we be measuring how many visitors a design system site has? How often components are used? And, what qualitative measures are worth keeping an eye on?By Michelle Chin and Nefertiti Dukes
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Chris and Shawn explore how design tools shape final products, emphasizing the crucial role of managing elements like forms and tables. Shawn shares insights on uniting Adobe departments for greater cohesion and how Spectrum 2 reflects organizational change. They discuss AI integration in design interfaces, drawing parallels with Apple's iPhone des…
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In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we explore the intricate world of theme management in complex design systems at Intuit. Nate Baldwin, Principal Designer at Intuit, shares a revolutionary framework for design tokens, enhancing governance and accessibility. We learn about Figma's role in color swapping and Intuit's theming engine for g…
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We dive into the ambitious idea proposed by Brad Frost: creating a global design system for everyone to use. Imagine a world where companies don’t reinvent the wheel with every component they create, but instead, contribute to and utilize a shared set of resources. We tackle the big questions: Where do we start in building such a universal system? …
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