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Curt and Katie talk about evidence-based practices, clinician training, and when even the evidence base can go wrong.

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

In this episode we talk about:

  • How we know better than the evidence
  • The need for evidence-based practice in community mental health
  • Funding, efficiency, and diagnosis
  • The difference between the clientele in public mental health and private practice
  • Evidence-based practices pros and cons
  • The science, the efficacy, replicability of EBPs
  • The pros and cons of EBPs in community mental health
  • The need to include individual factors in EBPs
  • EBPs versus relational style (and how they may not be mutually exclusive)
  • The question about personality characteristics of CBT therapists
  • The opinion about rapport being missing from EBPs
  • How training jumps to EBP, to the detriment of the relationship
  • The problem with people who overuse or oversimplify the need for each orientation
  • Strong clinical orientation versus the “eclectic” or “integrative” psychotherapy
  • The Medical Model
  • The challenge of training therapists in relational skills and how to be a better therapist, rather than teaching specific handful of skills
  • The importance of proving efficacy, getting funding for services
  • Treatment decision-making and collaboration in public mental health versus private practice
  • The complexity of actual clients and the need for more than just one EBP to use for treatment
  • The problems with new clinician training related to EBPs

Resources mentioned:

We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.

Dr. Scott Miller: Feedback Informed Treatment

Dr. Ben Caldwell

Modern Community Mental Health: An Interdisciplinary Approach by Kenneth Yeager, David Cutler, Dale Svendsen, and Grayce M. Sills

Relevant Episodes:

Therapist Know Thyself

Our Facebook Group – The Modern Therapists Group

Therapy Reimagined 2019

Our CALL FOR SPEAKERS!!

Our consultation services:

The Fifty-Minute Hour

Credits:

Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/

Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

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Content provided by Katie Vernoy, Curt Widhalm, and LMFT. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Katie Vernoy, Curt Widhalm, and LMFT or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://player.fm/legal.

Curt and Katie talk about evidence-based practices, clinician training, and when even the evidence base can go wrong.

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

In this episode we talk about:

  • How we know better than the evidence
  • The need for evidence-based practice in community mental health
  • Funding, efficiency, and diagnosis
  • The difference between the clientele in public mental health and private practice
  • Evidence-based practices pros and cons
  • The science, the efficacy, replicability of EBPs
  • The pros and cons of EBPs in community mental health
  • The need to include individual factors in EBPs
  • EBPs versus relational style (and how they may not be mutually exclusive)
  • The question about personality characteristics of CBT therapists
  • The opinion about rapport being missing from EBPs
  • How training jumps to EBP, to the detriment of the relationship
  • The problem with people who overuse or oversimplify the need for each orientation
  • Strong clinical orientation versus the “eclectic” or “integrative” psychotherapy
  • The Medical Model
  • The challenge of training therapists in relational skills and how to be a better therapist, rather than teaching specific handful of skills
  • The importance of proving efficacy, getting funding for services
  • Treatment decision-making and collaboration in public mental health versus private practice
  • The complexity of actual clients and the need for more than just one EBP to use for treatment
  • The problems with new clinician training related to EBPs

Resources mentioned:

We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.

Dr. Scott Miller: Feedback Informed Treatment

Dr. Ben Caldwell

Modern Community Mental Health: An Interdisciplinary Approach by Kenneth Yeager, David Cutler, Dale Svendsen, and Grayce M. Sills

Relevant Episodes:

Therapist Know Thyself

Our Facebook Group – The Modern Therapists Group

Therapy Reimagined 2019

Our CALL FOR SPEAKERS!!

Our consultation services:

The Fifty-Minute Hour

Credits:

Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/

Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

  continue reading

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