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The Divorcing Religion Podcast was launched by professional counsellor Janice Selbie to highlight the impact of Religious Trauma Syndrome. Guests include The Thinking Atheist Seth Andrews, The Friendly Atheist Hemant Mehta, author Margaret Atwood, Godless Mom, Mandisa Thomas, Dr. Darrel Ray, Dr. Marlene Winell and more.
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Stephen & Sharlene Licciardello | Transformational Coaches

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Facing a Setback? Searching for Clarity or Inspiration? Real change doesn’t come in the blink of an eye. It’s the small, deliberate steps that carve out the significant impacts we see in our lives. Hosts Stephen and Sharlene have decades of experience as coaches, mentors, and professional counselors who have helped hundreds of people just like you find more clarity and success in their lives. Each episode is crafted with you in mind, tackling real challenges from real people who’ve been righ ...
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Our mental health systems are broken. The work of getting well can make us feel worse than we did when we started. PlayGrounding is about finding the courage to seek the help we need and the hope to keep going when it feels like nothing is working and no one is listening.
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Sam and Chey are two queer millennials navigating through all that is wrong with society and leaving you with ways to be your own catalyst for change. Get angry, cry, heal, and take action with us as we discuss today's un-humanistic culture. Check out our Resources: linktr.ee/wevegotitallwrong Follow Us on Instagram: @wevegotitallwrong
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Korrenne Jensen - Intersection of ADHD and Religious Trauma Korrenne (Kory) Jensen is a Registered Psychotherapist in Ontario. Areas that she works in include religious trauma, ADHD, and grief. She also works with populations that include front of line healthcare workers, first responders, and indigenous individuals. Kory is the clinical director o…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Are you tired of setting goals that never seem to stick? Stephen and Sharlene explore the psychology of change and goal-setting. They share why so many of us resist change, even when we desperately want it. You'll discover the hidden forces that keep you stuck in old patterns and learn prac…
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Tia Levings - A Well-Trained Wife Divorced: Christian fundamentalism CW: Brief reference to CSA My guest today is author Tia Levings, who describes herself as “an author exploring anti-fundamentalism after church-sanctioned domestic abuse in high-control religion.” Tia appeared in Shiny Happy People on Amazon Prime, and her memoir, A Well-Trained W…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Are you tired of feeling stuck, unable to make the changes you desperately want in your life? Stephen and Sharlene sit down with Chad Kneller, a former military officer turned successful entrepreneur and author. Chad shares his journey from battling depression to finding true happiness and …
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Britt Hartley - No Nonsense Spirituality Divorced: Mormonism My guest today is author, nihilism survivor, and atheist spiritual advisor Britt Hartley. Britt has over 287,000 followers on TikTok, and I think after our chat today that you will want to follow her, too! Britt is a former Mormon, current atheist, whose journey away from religion took he…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story How do successful people use their insecurities as fuel for achievement? Stephen and Sharlene share their experiences with impostor syndrome. You'll discover why those nagging doubts and fears of being "found out" might actually be signposts pointing toward your greatest potential. If you'v…
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Anke Richter - DECULT TW: References to CSA, sex trafficking, suicide My guest today is international journalist and author Anke Richter, who is based in Christchurch, New Zealand. In 2022, Harper-Collins published Anke’s important and bestselling book called CULT TRIP: Inside the World of Coercion and Control. According to Anke’s website: She spen…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Are you feeling trapped in an invisible box, struggling to find your way out? In this powerful episode, Stephen and Sharlene sit down with Cathelina Duvert, author of the novel "The Box," who shares her personal journey through depression and how writing became her path to healing. Cathelin…
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Wilbur Turner - Two-by-Two Survivor Today’s guest is Wilbur Turner (he/him), visionary founder and president of Advocacy Canada. He is located on the unceded ancestral lands of the Syilx people in Kelowna, BC, Canada. A well-regarded speaker and workshop facilitator, Wilbur utilizes personal stories and humour to engage, educate, and uplift audienc…
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Announcement! The Shameless Sexuality Conference is back! The Conference centered around life after purity culture will be held in Seattle, WA from May 23 to the 25th, 2025 in Seattle, WA. Don't wait to get your tickets and book your room: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/ Lyn Smith Gregory - Relative of Joseph Smith LYN SMITH GREGORY grew up in …
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Karrine Blouin - ExJW Girl In Shambles Divorced: Jehovah’s Witnesses TW: Sexual Abuse I discovered today’s guest, Karinne Blouin, on Instagram, where her handle is “girl_inshambles.” Her insights and personal snippets about her former life as a Jehovah’s Witness gripped me hard enough to invite her to share her story with us today. Karinne was born…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Have you ever felt like the church you trusted just burned you? Have you ever experienced betrayal or disappointment from the very community that was meant to nurture your faith? Church hurt is a painful reality for many, often leaving deep emotional scars and shaking the foundations of one…
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Meg Applegate - Unsilenced CW: Kidnapping At the age of 15, Meg Applegate was abducted by two strangers in the middle of the night from her California home. Eight hours later she found herself at a lockdown treatment facility for 6 months in Boise, ID. After that, she was placed in an additional behavioral modification program in northern Montana f…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Are you struggling to find love and happiness after a painful past? Hosts, Stephen and Sharlene talk with Larry and Dawne, two incredible individuals who found each other later in life after tragedy, enduring childhood abuse, and both being single parents. Through their rawness and honesty,…
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Rebekah Monroe - Religious Trauma Research My guest today is Rebekah J. Monroe, who identifies as a white queer woman with lineage in the Osage and Cherokee Tribes. Rebekah goes by the pronouns are She/Her/They. Currently, Rebekah is a Clinical Psychology doctoral student, co-founder of the non-profit NARC-RT (which stands for North American Resear…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Are you tired of feeling pressure to always be positive, even when life gets tough? Stephen and Sharlene Licciardello shed light on the pervasive issue of toxic positivity and how it can hinder your pursuit of genuine happiness and success. Understand the dangers of suppressing your emotion…
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Lindsey Doolittle - Recovering from Religion & Suicide Loss TW: Today we will be discussing issues related to suicide Lindsey Doolittle was introduced to me as a documentary film maker who recently focussed her lens on Dr. Darrel Ray’s work at Recovering from Religion (see below for more information on this documentary). In speaking with Lindsey, I…
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Nikole Mitchell - From Pastor to Only Fans Model Divorced: Evangelical Christianity CW: Frank discussions about sexuality Today’s guest has previously appeared on the Dr. Phil Show, Jimmy Kimmel, ABC, CBS – and today she is a guest on the Divorcing Religion Podcast! I’m talking about Pleasure Coach NIKOLE MITCHELL. Raised in the Evangelical Christi…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, join Jae as she dives into imposter syndrome, a phenomenon where individuals doubt their accomplishments and fear being exposed as frauds despite evident success. She shares personal experiences and offers strategies to help you understand and overcome those feelings of self-doubt. Support the Show. Where to…
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Linda Martin - Religious Exemptions are Killing Kids Divorced: Followers of Christ Cult CW: Child abuse and death due to faith-based exemptions Linda Martin was born into the Idaho Followers of Christ sect, leaving the church at age 16. It is estimated that the child mortality rate for the Followers of Christ between 2002 and 2011 was 10 times that…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Longing For a Deeper Connection With Your Partner? Stephen and Sharlene welcome Janelle Green, a marriage coach who knows a thing or two about overcoming tough times and building a love that lasts. As a devout Catholic, she shares her fears and doubts about divorce and the impact it might h…
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Clint Heacock - Is Christianity Killing Democracy? CW: USA politics & religion Subscribe to the audio-only version here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast Follow Janice and the Conference on Religious Trauma on Social Media: Mastodon: JaniceSelbie@mas.to Threads: Wisecounsellor@threads.net Twitter: https://twitter.com/divo…
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Send us a Text Message. This week, Jaely opens up about her personal journey towards self-love and acceptance. She shares the challenges she faced regarding body image and the societal pressures to confirm to the standards of beauty. This episode serves as a reminder that self-love is a continuous process and that everyone deserves to feel beautifu…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Is Constant Negativity Risking Your Relationships? Stephen and Sharlene are joined by the Author of “The Role of Love” Paul Zolman. He shares his incredible journey from growing up in an abusive, angry household to discovering a transformative path of love and compassion. Despite making a p…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Ever Been Curious About Investing in Real Estate? Stephen and Sharlene sit down with real estate investor, mentor, and philanthropist Mathew Pezon. Learn about his experience as a mentor at The Real Estate Lab, a nonprofit organization dedicated to teaching real estate investing to disadvan…
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Dr. Danielle Kramer - Taylor Swift and Deep Fake Porn Subscribe to the audio-only version here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast Follow Janice and the Conference on Religious Trauma on Social Media: Mastodon: JaniceSelbie@mas.to Threads: Wisecounsellor@threads.net Twitter: https://twitter.com/divorcereligion Twitter: http…
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Send us a Text Message. In this week's episode, Joanna H. joins Jaely to discuss all things motherhood, being a Latina, and more. They dive into the journey of being a working mom, a first-generation Latina, and explore how these experience intersect in the process of breaking generational trauma. Together, they shed light on their experiences and …
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story What if talking about death could help you live a more purpose driven life? Stephen and Sharlene dive deep into the often-taboo topic of death and dying. By acknowledging your finite time on Earth, you can develop a newfound sense of urgency to pursue our passions and live with intention. T…
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Sandy Bigtree & Philip Arnold - The Religious Origins of White Supremacy Subscribe to the audio-only version here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast Follow Janice and the Conference on Religious Trauma on Social Media: Mastodon: JaniceSelbie@mas.to Threads: Wisecounsellor@threads.net Twitter: https://twitter.com/divorcerel…
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Send us a Text Message. Ashtin D., a Licensed Professional Counselor - Candidate, JWOWW (Oklahoma's Version), and a long-time bestie to Jaely, joins the podcast to share experiences that shaped who they are today. Jaely and Ashtin dive into their experiences in academia, interracial relationships, and healing from their own trauma. Drawing from the…
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Send us a Text Message. In this mini episode, she gives her loyal listeners an update on current life happenings and some insight into future episodes. If you are interested in talking about GI health issues or PCOS, please contact Vida on Instagram (@vidawithjaely). Support the Show. Where to find Vida on socials: Follow us @vidawithjaely on Insta…
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Wondered What It Takes to Make it As A Comedian? Stephen and Sharlene talk with entrepreneur and comedian Leanne Linsky. She talks about how she went from working a corporate job in Las Vegas to chasing her dream of being a comedian, and all the ups and downs along the way. Right before the pandemic Leanne saw a gap between social media and live co…
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Hannah Abbasi - From Christian to Muslim to Secular Humanist, Part 2 Divorced: Islam In our last episode, we were introduced to Hannah Abbasi. Hannah grew up in a Christian home but converted to Islam in her teens due to family influences on her father’s side. In today’s episode, we learn more about what it was like for Hannah to live and study in …
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Thinking About Finally Writing Your First Novel? In this captivating episode, Stephen and Sharlene sit down with Mark Jamilkowski, a healthcare finance professional who unexpectedly became an historical fiction author. You'll discover how the act of writing can help you navigate through life's challenges and setbacks, providing a powerful outlet fo…
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Hannah Abbasi - From Christian to Muslim to Secular Humanist, Part 1 Divorced: Christianity PART 1 – FROM CHRISTIAN TO MUSLIM My guest today is Hannah Abbasi, a transplant to New York City from Austin, Texas. As an adult, she has also lived in Qom, Beirut, and Cairo. At the University of Texas at Austin, Hannah studied Religious Studies, Middle Eas…
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Do You Know All the Red Flags of a Narcissistic Partner? Stephen and Sharlene have a powerful conversation with the Author of “Gasping for Air: The Stranglehold of Narcissistic Abuse," Dana Diaz, who shares how she was able to overcome narcissistic abuse and reclaim her life. She bravely shares the insidious nature of narcissists and how it can lea…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jaely this week as she shares her experience as someone with ADHD. She will discuss what ADHD is, how it can influence the way we live our lives, and the toll it takes on our self-esteem, and more. How can we continue to succeed in a world that doesn’t always accommodate for our needs? Listen this week to learn more! Su…
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Melanie Trecek-King - Critical Thinking is Power Divorced: Religious Fundamentalism Melanie Trecek-King is an Associate Professor of Biology at Massasoit Community College, where she equips students with empowering critical thinking, information literacy, and science literacy skills. Melanie loves to share her “teach skills, not facts” approach wit…
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How Often Do You Dream of Change But Fear Taking the First Step? Hosts, Stephen and Sharlene, shed light on the illusion of perfection we often chase, especially in the era of social media, and how this pursuit can hinder our true progress. They touch upon the tug-of-war between pleasure and pain—a fundamental force driving your actions and decisio…
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Jeff Beaumont - Trafficked by Scientology Divorced: Scientology CW: Trafficking, forced labour, self-harm. Jeff Beaumont was born into Scientology and educated at the local Scientology school in Vancouver, BC, Canada. At age 14, he was kidnapped and trafficked to the USA to perform labour in the Sea Org branch of Scientology. During that time, Jeff…
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Send us a Text Message. In this week’s episode, Jaely is exploring into the intricate world of adult friendships – from forging new connections to navigating the delicate balance of maintaining those relationships over time. She shares her experiences, how her friends have supported her, and how she navigates grief and loss in friendships in adulth…
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Download Your FREE Copy: 6 Pillars of Rewriting Your Story Ever Felt Like Life's Just Piling It On Thick and You Can't Catch Your Breath? Imagine going through cancer treatment, dealing with a heart-wrenching divorce, having a heart transplant and coping with the loss of a child—all within a span of a few years. Sounds like a nightmare, right? Well…
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Matthew Remski - Conspirituality Divorced: Roman Catholicism Today’s guest is journalist and author MATTHEW REMSKI. In addition to being the author of 8 books of poetry, fiction, and nonfiction, Matthew is co-host of the wildly popular Conspirituality Podcast. I asked him to join me after hearing his presentation “When Spirituality is a Broken Spac…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode of Vida, Jaely dives into the journey of motherhood and the impact it has on personal identity. Join her as she explores the challenges and joys of navigating motherhood while striving to maintain a sense of self. From societal expectations to personal aspirations, she shares strategies for finding balance an…
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What does it take to rebuild your life after your world has been shattered by a catastrophic accident? Cyrus Rustom's extraordinary journey begins in the harsh deserts of Afghanistan, where a life-altering incident with a truck nearly cost him everything. This episode dives into the depths of human perseverance, revealing how Cyrus turned a moment …
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Seth Andrews - Our Lord & Saviour, Taylor Swift Divorced: Christianity CW: U.S. politics Don’t worry, this episode is not ALL about Taytay - but she is a happy part of it. Today’s guest is Seth Andrews, a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular podcasts and online atheist communities i…
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What Does It Take to Rise From a Life of Drugs and Aimlessness to One of Success and Purpose? Stephen and Sharlene speak with an inspirational guest, Nico Lagan. His life began in the shadows of adversity, where the absence of a father figure and the allure of street life led him down a path of drugs, crime, and aimlessness. Yet, it's at the depths…
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You’re Eager to Change Aspects of Your Life But Unsure Where How to Start? Whether you aim to modify certain areas of your life or seek a complete overhaul, hosts Stephen and Sharlene Licciardello introduce 9 transformative strategies to jumpstart your transformation. They offer practical advice on creating positive life changes and conquering chal…
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We have found the biggest obstacle to change is just getting started. Ever felt like making even the smallest change is like climbing Mount Everest? Or wondered how others manage to turn their struggles around? We're your hosts, Stephen and Sharlene We have helped hundreds of people Bridge the gap between the person they are and the person they wan…
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Dr. Darrel Ray - All About Sex Divorced: Christianity CONTENT WARNING: Today I’m speaking with Dr. Darrel Ray all about sex. From Purity Culture to ethical nonmonogamy to sex and aging – we cover it in this episode! Dr. Darrel Ray is the founder and President of the Board of Directors of Recovering from Religion. He holds a Masters’ Degree in relig…
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