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Underneath it All, hosted by Grizel, we introduce mental health conversations in a relatable way by using the Enneagram framework. We believe the Enneagram is a helpful tool that encourages self reflection, allows you to recognize your own differences and helps us accept the differences of others, without judgement. Through these conversations, we hope you can have a better understanding of others around you, learn to accept and fully embrace your own narrative, and to continue breaking the ...
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 4, Episode 13: Type 9: The Peacekeeper Grizel is joined by Kelsie, an Enneagram 9 Mentor, who helps other Enneagram Type Nines deal with mental health, conflict, boundaries, and more. On this episode, Grizel and Kelsie talk about accountability to dig into emotions, the unique emotional thresholds, and how to hol…
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Grizel is joined by Sandy Yang, a Human Design Expert, Certified Brain Rewiring Coach, and Energy Healer. She helps ambitious women understand their unique Human Design and step into their purpose with grace and ease with Brain Rewiring. On this episode, Grizel and Sandy talk about navigating relationships as an Enneagram Type 8: The Challenger. Fr…
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Grizel is joined by Libby DeLAna, an award-winning executive creative director, designer/art director by trade…and she’s knows a lot about what its like to be a type 7. On this episode, Grizel and Libby uncover different reasons why wimhof ice therapy has impacted there lives in similar yet VERY different ways, and Libby shares different tools that…
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One of the most stigmatized topics in the mental health space is the conversation around medication. Host, Grizel is joined by Molly, who was diagnosed with Bipolar type 1 at the age of 21. Together, they share their personal experiences with medication and explore the nuances behind stigma. Medication Resources: Before you take psychiatric medicat…
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Living in the head space, the type 6's also known as The Loyalists, are the most devoted and committed of the 9 types. Grizel is joined by Gil, a type 6 who shares how she faced challenges at a young age and learned how to use them for growth. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes U…
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Interested in the enneagram but don't know how to nail down your type? On this mini episode, Grizel shares 3 tips for figuring out your type, as well as offers insights to why the enneagram framework can be a great tool for personal development. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes…
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Type 5, the Investigator, are usually some of the quieter types of the enneagram. On this episode, Grizel speaks with Ben and Alex, and discover the reasoning behind their introversion and mindfulness. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON…
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Resources from this episode: ADHD TED talk Speaker, Jessica McCabe. Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes Ologies ADHD Episode Resource Page UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check out Steph’s guide at: https://n…
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Are they as unique as we think they are? On this episode, Grizel and Alex are joined with another type 4: Jo, who is new to the enneagram but passionate about sharing her authenticity. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the s…
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As we explore the Enneagram, its important to understand how to make space for the healing work in practical ways. In this episode, Grizel shares different resources and trauma informed grounding tools to do the work. Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support t…
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Leaning into Strengths & Type 3: The Achiever
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This week, we’ll hear from Faye about her own perspective on being a type 3, as well as Stephanie Barron Hall, type 3 and well-known Enneagram author. Learn how to reframe your mindset, viewing the unique traits of your type as strengths that you can lean into. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath…
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On this episode, Grizel talks with her good friend Katy, a type 2, about the importance of recognizing, understanding and accepting your shadow side,. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 4, Episode 2: Motivations & The Perfectionist (Type 1) The second episode of the season, Grizel and Alex discuss motivations of the enneagram, as well as dive deeper into understanding Type 1: The Perfectionist. This episode features Stephanie Barron Hall, a certified Enneagram coach, author of the book, The Enne…
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Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check out Steph’s guide at: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide And be sure to follow her on Instagram at: @n…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 4, Trailer: The Enneagram If you google search “The Enneagram,” you will get a million results —most of them being amazing resources explaining what it is, explanations of the 9 different types, subtypes, shadow sides, etc. However, if you read the intention of this resource, it was never meant to stop there. On …
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 8 - Season Finale Letting go, letting in. In the season finale episode, Grizel talks with Alex, the co-host for Season 4, about the upcoming changes for Underneath It All. After leaving the CDT early, Grizel went through a major growth period and started learning more about contentment and making healt…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 7 - In this episode, Grizel has the opportunity to talk with Kourtney, a recent graduate student, who shares the ways in which she has learned to “biohack” her mental health, through both personal experience and her thesis “A Functional Approach to Depression”. Kourtney explains the biopsychosocial mod…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 6 - Cultivating Contentment In this episode, Grizel talks about her search for everyday contentment, now that she is back home from the trail. This means spending a lot of time with family, working, cooking, and adventuring as a “weekend warrior”. While on a recent weekend trip, Grizel had the privileg…
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Testing Body, Mind, and Soul Limits (Part 2 of 2)
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 5 - Testing our body, mind, and soul limits (Part 2) Part one of this episode was all about testing body and mind limits in the backcountry, but how do we test our soul limits in an honest way? On this episode, Grizel has an intimate conversation with one of her closest friends, Diane, as they discuss …
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Testing Body, Mind, and Soul Limits (Part 1 of 2)
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 4 - Testing Body, Mind, and Soul Limits (Part 1) Learning to listen to our mind, body, and soul is no easy task, especially when faced with inclimate weather and thoughts that want to lead to the “red zone,” also known as flight or fight response. In this episode, Grizel and her coach Liz Sampey face a…
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Managing Mental Health with the Climate Crisis
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 3 - Managing Mental Health with the Climate Crisis The climate crisis becomes more apparent each day, and while on the CDT, Grizel faced many of its effects. From rising temperatures, to endless wildfire smoke, it’s hard to not feel its effects on our mental health as well. In this episode, Grizel talk…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 2 - As Grizel prepared to start the CDT, she sat down with her husband Eric for a candid conversation about mental health, the importance of therapy and how they handle the struggle of having a long distance relationship on the trail. In this episode they’ll answer a series of questions asked by the Un…
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Season 3, Episode 1 - Seeking Balance in the Backcountry In the first episode of this season, Grizel reflects on previous backcountry experiences as she prepares to backpack/bikepack the CDT and introduces us to Alex, her friend and trail support for this summer’s adventure. This season of Underneath It All will be recorded while on trail, followin…
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Underneath It All is produced and hosted by Grizel. Theme music is by Passiflora. Additional Music was found by using Musicbed License. Podcast cover artwork designed by Hailey Hirst. Being in the backcountry for an extended amount of time can be a vulnerable experience for many of us, but if you add mental health issues in the backcountry, it can …
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 2, Episode 2 - Feeling Big, Feeling Loss Hosted by Grizel Grief is complicated. It’s messy. It’s exhausting. And it’s SO much. But that doesnt mean we can't talk about it. On this episode, Grizel interviews Meg Yingling, who is a climber and guide based out of Estes Park, Colorado. Grizel and Meg have a vulnerabl…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Season 2, Bonus Episode 1 Hosted by Grizel Caminas In the first Bonus Episode for Underneath it All, Grizel and Lauren discuss what family boundaries look like in a time of COVID and the holiday season. They go over questions like how to communicate our mental health needs when visiting family, how to have conversations…
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Underneath It All; Season 2, Episode 1 "I've never been interviewed like this. I wanted to show you all the real me. I wanted to share with you who I was and why I do the work that I do. Because for all you know, I'm just some person who's hosting a podcast about mental health stories in the outdoors. But there's a lot more to me than just my passi…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Episode 6 - The Wild Pine: Living with Bipolar 2 Hosted by Grizel Laura Niblack is a metalsmith living in New England with her husband Isaac and husky, Minka. In 2016, she quit her job to start her own small business, The Wild Pine, and has been handcrafting jewelry in turquoise and silver ever since. Only two years ago…
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Underneath It All Show Notes Episode 5 - “Be a Man” Hosted by Grizel Dr. Christopher Spromberg was raised in a small mill town in the beautiful PNW, but didn’t develop a relationship with the great outdoors until later in life. He recently completed his doctorate degree in clinical psychology and is now working as a psychologist in Montana, and is …
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Underneath It All Show Notes Episode 4 - Undernourished: Muffy J. Davis Hosted by Grizel Muffy J Davis is a dyke, a Pisces, a working class femme, a writer, a person who has recovered from an eating disorder, and a long distance hiker. She wrote a book called, “Ink in Water: An Illustrated Memoir (Or, How I Kicked Anorexia’s Ass and Embraced Body P…
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Nicole Antoinette (she/her) is obsessed with honest conversations. A writer, retreat facilitator, and host of the Real Talk Radio podcast, Nicole works to create resources and gatherings for people who crave deep, genuine connections—both with themselves and others. Offline, Nicole is an indoor kid turned long-distance hiker, and when she's not on …
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Will Robinson, also known as Akuna is an outdoor lover and thru hiker who has hiked 3 of the longest trails in the US, which includes the Pacific Crest Trail, the Appalachian Trail, and the Continental Divide Trail, which makes him a Triple crowner of hiking. In Episode 2, Akuna and Grizel discuss the effects of racism on Akuna’s mental health, liv…
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Vera Undertow is an outdoor enthusiast who enjoys hiking 14,000 ft peaks in Colorado. They are also a person who has struggled with depression, suicidality, anxiety, and gender identity. In the season premiere of Underneath it All, host Grizel and Vera talk about growing up where gender is assumed, the challenges that come with seeing a therapist, …
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We often talk about these wild outdoor adventures we embark on, highlighting the highs, even the lows, but we forget to discuss how we got there in the first place. Underneath it All, hosted by Grizel, dives deep into the stories of everyday people who have or are currently experiencing mental health difficulties and how the outdoors has influenced…
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