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REVcovery

Justin Gentry, Sarah Heath

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A podcast about leaving ministry, recovering from being a professional Christian, and finding meaning after a calling. Welcome to the Revcovery Room.
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Justin Wilford, PhD leads a team of psychologists, therapists, and coaches who are passionate about using emotional fitness to make work/life better. Yes Collective delivers life-changing therapeutic tools, practices, and support designed for today's work environment. The Yes Collective Podcast is our space to bring you the top mental and emotional wellness experts from the Yes Collective app. Episodes include conversations with psychologists, therapists, coaches, and loads of other experts ...
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This week we have a bit of a different format but we are so excited to welcome Molly Lorden on the podcast! For the first half Justin and Sarah will talk about ministry and whether or not you can be called back in. In the second half Sarah and Molly talk ministry, calling and how (maybe even if) you can make it work in 2024. Its a great episode and…
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This week Justin and Sarah talk a bit more about how we create space online and in our personal lives that is generative, ethical, and not just recreating the same things we left behind. Welcome to the REVcovery room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Leon Karagoezian. You …
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This week Justin and Sarah sit down to talk a bit about the pastor to influencer pipeline and the importance of taking time to reflect on your time in ministry before rebranding and launching something new. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Le…
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Hey friends this week we welcome Pastor Trey Ferguson to the podcast! In addition to serving as a in Homestead Florida Trey is also the author of a new book Theologizin' Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving Wholly. Trey brings a great perspective on imaginative theology, how to see life as a continually unfolding journey, and what healthy m…
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This week Justin and Sarah discuss shame and the role it plays in the way they see themselves. It is a powerful force and it can impact a person in so many ways. Take your time with this one and be good to yourself. Life is a marathon and not a sprint and recovering from shame is no different. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord no…
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This week we welcome Nic Flores of the Collision Podcast to talk about ministry, overcoming your past, and the importance of therapy. He has a great story and a delightful perspective; welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Leon Karagoezian. You ca…
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This week we cover a much requested topic and dive into the practical elements of building a resume and getting a job after ministry. It can be a daunting task but you more than have what it takes to make the leap and thrive outside the stained glass windows. Welcome to the REVcovery Room We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here…
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We are back and happy to welcome you to the REVcovery Room! This week we talk about Holy Week and what to do when the thing that used to bring you comfort no longer does so. It's a good one and it's great to be back for a new season! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Leon K…
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This week we just have a quick wrap-up for this last season of REVcovery. Hope you had as much fun this season as we did. See you back in a few weeks! Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Leon Karagoezian. You can find out more here: @leonkstudio…
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This week we welcome the ever delightful Derek Webb to the podcast. Derek is a former Christian singer/songwriter (or singer/songwriter that happens to be a Christian) and is now writing more about the process of leaving what he was behind and leaning into whatever he is becoming next. This is a fantastic conversation about life, creation, and evol…
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This week Sarah and Justin sit down and have a heartfelt discussion about what would have allowed us to stay in ministry. We hope this conversation helps you understand the reasons you left but also that it will inspire those that are still in to make the changes needed to keep ministers, volunteers, and staff healthy for the long term. Grab a cozy…
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This week we sit down and chat with the incredible Matthias Roberts to talk about community, connection and his new book Holy Runaways. It is a delightful and cozy conversation you will walk away from feeling lighter and more at ease. Grab a cup of tea and welcome to the REVcovery Room. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: …
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Hey folks we are back with another highly requested episode on WTF moments in ministry. This week we go into some fun moments that Justin and Sarah have had as well as dive into some stories from our patreon supporters. It's a wild ride, welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcove…
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This week we have an incredible conversation with Cortland Coffey on ministry, high control religions, and how easy it is to fall into a bad situation for all the right reasons. His story is both jaw dropping and relatable; welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcas…
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Hey folks its just another chill episode with Sarah and Justin wherein we discuss the new year, how our lives have changed, and what we look forward to in 2024. Join us this week in the REVcovery Room! This weeks episode is sponsored by the Our Bible App! Download it on the App store that brings you the most joy. We now have a Discord now for our P…
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This week we welcome Meghan Crozier from the Thereafter podcast to talk about leaving the classroom, finding your voice, and what it looks like to actually talk back to purity culture. We also discuss an upcoming event that the Thereafter Pod is hosting in Portland Oregon that specifically addresses recovering from Purity Culture and what comes aft…
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This week Justin and Sarah revisit the idea of calling and what it means to us now that we are no longer doing the thing we were "called" to do. Were we tricked? Was it all fake? Were we wrong? Was God wrong? We probably won't find the answer but we hope this discussion helps you wrestle with this idea well. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! This week…
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EPISODE #81 - Lisa Gungor is an artist, author, yoga instructor, and a facilitator in Yes Collective’s new Root Work Immersive Circles. When she was introduced to the Yes Collective team, she was just "Lisa" the yoga and ecstatic dance teacher. But the team later found out that she's a Grammy-nominated Christian indie rock musician who traveled the…
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This week we have a lighter episode wherein we talk a bit about all the WTF moments we have had in ministry. We hope it brings a smile to your face this holiday season. This week we have a sponsor! Download the Our Bible App to get all the spiritual goodness you crave without the toxic theology. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can jo…
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Well they say all rotten things must come to an end. In this final episode, I have a laid back conversation with my friend, the Pastor of Pump himself, Danny Prada. We talk about our respective journeys, how we have grown as individuals, how DRCK has impacted our lives, and how we feel as it all comes to a close. From the bottom of my heart, thank …
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This week we have a lovely conversation with Kevin Garcia about leaving ministry, redefining spiritual practice, and finding what makes you bloom. You can preorder his new book, What Makes You Bloom, wherever books are sold. Welcome to the REVcovery Room. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podca…
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This week is a simple episode with Justin and Sarah talking about how to keep our heads above water as we swim in the chaos that is living in the 21st century. Take a deep breathe, relax, and welcome to the REVcovery Room. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenh…
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EPISODE #80 - Welcome to this special edition of the Yes Collective Podcast. This one is a collaboration with our new friends at REVcovery podcast, Sarah Heath and Justin Gentry. The REVcovery podcast is focused on life after Christian ministry, recovering from being a professional Christian, and finding meaning in the aftermath. Justin doesn't fit…
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On this, second to last DRCK episode, I had the privilege of hanging out with my friend Janice (God Has Not Given! Bad Words! General Menace!) , and new friend Tim (The New Evangelicals!). We discuss the things we would go back and tell ourselves about our personal deconstruction journeys– the good, the bad, the dogmatic. We also discuss platform c…
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Folks we have an excellent conversation today with Justin Wilford co-Founder of the Yes Collective, a a parent-focused mental wellness platform. In addition to talking about mental wellness we talk about his academic work studying religion and then veer into topics like the benefits of psychedelics and ecstatic dance, as you do. Its a good time and…
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This week we welcome Jef Caine to the REVcovery room and hear a great discussion about art in the church and turnign our struggles with vocation into careers that give us life again. Hope you enjoy this trip into the REVcovery room. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Elizabe…
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EPISODE #79 - This week we're thrilled to welcome on the podcast Colin Pugh, Executive Director of the Brooklyn Psychedelic Society. Colin is the Executive Director of Brooklyn Psychedelic Society (BPS), an organization founded in 2015 whose mission is to serve as a prototype of a psychedelic co-op, which is to say a democratically governed, commun…
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This week we interview Simon Nixon a friend from down under who has found freedom from the stress of ministry working with abusers and violent criminals...which kinda says alot. Welcome to the REVcovery Room, you don't want to miss this one. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited b…
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EPISODE #78 - We're thrilled to announce our first 8-week Root Work program is filled! three weeks of preparation and four weeks of integration surround 4-day retreat in Temecula, California. This program supports deep inner healing and new levels of self-acceptance, self-clarity, and self-expression. If you're interested on getting on the email li…
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This week we welcome Brandon Flanery to the show! Brandon is the REVcovery trifecta (expastor, exmissionary, and exevangelical) and now writes and speaks at the intersection of faith and sexuality. In addition to being an amazing human he is also the founder of the LGBTQ+ dating app, believr. Its a great conversation that we are happy to share with…
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This week we welcome former pastor and occasional bartender Brian Recker on the show! Brian has a fantastic story of involving faith transitions and a widening of his perspective leading to his eventual exit from ministry. But as you know on this show that is just where the story starts getting interesting. It's a fantastic story of faith lost, fou…
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Friends we have a great story this week as we interview Hillary Taylor about ministry, evolving faith, and her rewarding friendships with death row inmates. You don't want to miss this one. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenholt from Podcat Audio: https://el…
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This week Sarah and Justin welcome Kyle Harbour to the REVcovery room and you do not wan to miss this one. Kyle comes out of the sound booth to give us the scoop on what professional ministry looks like from behind the powerpoint screen and also to give hope that those things you always longed to do in ministry are also available on the other side …
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This week we bring another story from the REVcovery room! We are joined by Leslie Nease this week who has been at times a radio host, contestant on Survivor, fitness instructor, and much more. It has been a long road through and many changes in direction to get her to this point and we are so excited to share her story with you. Welcome to the REVc…
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We are back! This week we kickoff a new season of REVcovery and wow is it going to be a great one. This episode we reflect back on what we have done, where we are going and what we would like to start, stop and continue. It's a joy to be back. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: patreon.com/r…
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EPISODE #77 - We just finished Week 1 of our newest 4-week Studio Circle called Internal Family Systems for Your Daily Life, facilitated by Yes Collective cofounder, IFS practitioner, and podcast cohost Justin Wilford, PhD. In this podcast episode, Justin talks with lead trainer for the IFS Institute, Sue Richmond, LCSW. If what you hear makes you …
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EPISODE #76 - We are beyond excited to launch our next Studio Circle live on July 25th! It's called Internal Family Systems for Your Daily Life, facilitated by Yes Collective cofounder and IFS practitioner, Justin Wilford, PhD. Justin has a doctorate in designing and evaluating mental health programs and is trained in Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduc…
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This week Sarah and Justin reflect on the last season and consider where we have come from and where we are going on this REVcovery tour we are on together. We hope that as this podcast community continues to grow you will find each person's story to be just as compelling and inspiring as we do. We are just getting started. Welcome once again to th…
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EPISODE #75 - Perhaps you've seen a 60 Minutes episode or a Netflix documentary on the emerging science of psychedelics in mental health. Or perhaps you've even found your way into a psychedelic-assisted therapy session or retreat. Or maybe psychedelics are a totally uncharted territory for you. Regardless of where you are on this spectrum, you're …
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We have an excellent episode this week as we welcome Mike Maeshiro to the REVcovery Room! Mike spent most of his ministry career hiding who he really was in order to fit in and we get into all the ways that creates problems both internally and in relationship with others. We also answer the burning question of what is the deal with the golden dust …
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This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Kyle Caudle! You might be a pastor if your job description includes "other duties as assigned" and Kyle is no exception. He has done it all and has a story to tell about it. Our community is full of the best possible people and we are so happy that you get to listen to them. Welcome to the RE…
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EPISODE #74 - Have you ever been told you're “too sensitive," “too dramatic,” “too shy” or you “think too much”? Do you often feel overwhelmed and aren't sure why? What if all of your sensitivities were just untapped resources for living a connected, creative, and thriving life? If this resonates for you, then you're going to love this conversation…
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This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Ty Grigg! We love having Ty on the show because he was able to make his career transition successfully and also reaches back to help others on their own journeys out of ministry and into the next thing. Our community is full of the best possible people and we are so happy that you get to hear…
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This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Kai Carico! Kai is a fantastic human whose story of transition, whether that is a transition of vocation or transition of gender identity, is one that we are so proud to present. Our community is full of the best possible people and we are so happy that you get to listen to them. Welcome to t…
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EPISODE #73 - We are thrilled to launch our first Internal Family Systems Studio Circle in July! It's called "IFS for Your Daily Life," and it's a live 4-week workshop led by IFS Institute-trained Justin Wilford, PhD, and his expert therapist team Jenny Walters and Alicia Wuth. They'll cover the foundational model of IFS, the big ideas, and most im…
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This week we hear from one of our REVcovery Room members Brandon Dulaney! We are so happy to have members of our community on the show and Brandon's story is not one to miss. We talk about everything from parenting, how we reframe our relationships after deconstruction, and so much more. It's a great one folks. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now…
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Hey friends this week is another low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about Mother's Day, family, and how we celebrate each other as we deconstruct our ministry and faith. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! Let us know on Discord what has helped you. You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenholt …
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This week I had the privilege of chatting with friend of the show and friend of mine, theologian and author Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza (Body Becoming! Activist Theology!). We have a laid back conversation about rest, embodiment, finding the third way and taking time to dream about the world we wish to see. I also go on a mild rant about being funempl…
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EPISODE #72 - Hey there, before we get started we want to let you know about an incredible 4-week online program—we call them Studio Circles—that we're launching in the Yes Collective, with the first live session on May 13th. This Studio Circle is all called "Creating Authentic Relationships." We designed this powerful 4-week live program to teach …
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Hey friends this week is a low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about things that have helped them get through revcovery and deconstruction. Hopefully some of these resources will help you too. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! Let us know on Discord what has helped you. You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by…
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