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Between Two Coaches

Amanda Katz and Nick Klastava

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Join Between Two Coaches, a weekly podcast helping you enjoy the fitness world with a more human approach. Each episode, we’ll bring problems faced in the fitness community to the surface and share solutions on creating a more sustainable, balanced mindset around your training goals. Consider this podcast your “go-to” on all things fitness, from a loving, supportive, no BS lens.
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The Eat for Endurance Podcast

Claire Shorenstein, MS RD CSSD CDN

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The Eat for Endurance Podcast demonstrates the many different ways that athletes fuel themselves, while also highlighting the challenges that so many active people have with their nutrition in real life. Host Claire Shorenstein (MS RD CSSD) aims to inspire and educate listeners through Athlete Nutrition Profiles, aka the "nutrition stories" of recreational and professional athletes, and interviews with fellow sports dietitians on important nutrition topics.
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The Wrong Cat Died

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Grizabella was the wrong cat to die. After seeing CATS the Musical for the first time in July of 2016, podcast host Mike Abrams was filled with a whirlwind of emotions. He was amused, confused, and a little angry. Almost exactly three years later when the 2019 CATS movie trailer came out, Mike had enough. It was time to speak his truth – Grizabella was the wrong Cat to Die at the Jellicle Ball. In this podcast, Mike interviews CATS cast members, CATS superfans, CATS haters, and explores the ...
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In this episode of Between Two Coaches, hosts Amanda and Nick take on Part of of their Reddit reactions. They explore various themes surrounding fitness, including body image issues faced by fitness professionals, coping strategies for race deferment, effective communication with personal trainers, and the dynamics of friendship in the context of m…
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"They did the production of CATS, which at the time I really don't think I thought about how hilarious it was that the camp director just decided to name it KATZ but my parents obviously got a chuckle out of it." This bonus episode features Eitan Levine who played Macavity at his Jewish day camp named Camp Kaleidoscope where they renamed the produc…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! Happy Halloween and welcome to Episode 102 of The Eat for Endurance Podcast. In my first Ask Me Anything episode in over two years, I'm tackling four listener questions on the following topics: 1. If / when you should take collagen supplements and if so, what is an effective dosage 2. How to eat on rest …
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In this engaging conversation, Nick and Amanda go through and give their coach reactions to a bunch of reddit posts that have topics ranging from personal anecdotes about costumes and spooky experiences to discussions on health, wellness, and event planning. They talk about race experiences, exercising while on vacationm, running the NYC Marathon s…
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"We’d always say Shove With Love. If someone doesn’t know where they are going, you should Shove With Love." This episode features Allison Little who was a swing and a Dance Captain on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Allison share how she had a full circle moment from seeing the show as kid, what the role of Dance Captain adds to the show, and…
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In this episode of 'Between Two Coaches', Amanda and Nick share personal updates and race experiences, discussing the highs and lows of marathon training and racing. They delve into Amanda's recent marathon experience at the Steamtown Marathon, including pre-race anxiety and health concerns, as well as the challenges faced on race day. Nick talks a…
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"Our rule was eight minutes. If someone had some sort of injury, a sickness, or something that happened to them mid-show, as a swing we were told you need to be on the stage in eight minutes." This episode features Laura Cable who played Jellylorum on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Laura share really fun stories from her time as a swing on to…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! Welcome to episode 101 of The Eat for Endurance Podcast, featuring sports psychologist and certified eating disorder specialist Riley Nickols, PhD, CEDS-C. Riley is the founder of Mind Body Endurance, and works with athletes on a wide range of mental health and sport performance issues. He also is an end…
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In this episode, Amanda, Nick, Carrie, and Cindy discuss the importance of mental skills coaching in athletics, emphasizing the need to coach the whole human. They explore the role of mental resilience, the significance of support systems for injured athletes, and the importance of celebrating milestones in athletic journeys. The conversation also …
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"I feel like I always have intrusive thoughts. I do really want to knock that person’s water bottle over just to mess with them. But I would never do it in real life. But as Rumple, you kind of get to." This episode features Amanda LaMotte who played Tantomile and was a swing on the US National Tour 5 of CATS and is currently performing in the ense…
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In this episode of Between Two Coaches, Coach Amanda and Coach Nick engage in a deep conversation with Dr. Lara Pence, a clinical psychologist specializing in working with athletes. They explore the concept of coaching the whole human, emphasizing the importance of understanding athletes beyond their performance metrics. Dr. Pence shares insights o…
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"I went out and bought a cat tail, ears, cut up fingerless gloves. I had a white tank top with a black vest. I looked insane." This episode features JJ Niemann who played the magical Mr Mistoffelees in the Elon University 2017 Winter Production of CATS and is currently in the ensemble in the Back To The Future Musical. Hear JJ share all about the c…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! Welcome to episode ONE HUNDRED of The Eat for Endurance Podcast! Woohoo! I’m excited to share my interview with Melissa Azzaro, RDN LD aka The Hormone Dietitian about how to get better sleep. Melissa and I talked for over 90 minutes about a TON of different factors that impact sleep, including nutrients,…
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In this episode of Between Two Coaches, Coach Amanda and Coach Nick welcome running coach Mario Fraioli for Part 1 in their Series Called Coaching the Whole Human. In this discussion they talk about the evolution of coaching, the importance of communication, and the philosophy behind coaching the whole human. Mario shares his journey in the running…
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Throughout the summer, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "That was my immediate first question. I was like, are we doing tails? What’s the tea? I had some other ideas." This episode is with Qween Je…
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In this episode, hosts Amanda and Nick welcome Dr. Leada Malek, a physical therapist, to discuss various aspects of physical therapy, injury prevention, and the mental and nutritional factors that influence recovery. They explore the importance of prehab, when to seek therapy, the mental challenges athletes face during injuries, and the significanc…
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"At the beginning of the show Grizabella was just the teacher. At the end, Grizabella went to the Heaviside Layer in a way that we could afford." This episode features Will Porter who played Mungojerrie on the US National Tour 5 of CATS as well as regionally. Hear Will share incredible stories from his time on tour, many new theories about the char…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! In Episode 99 of the Eat for Endurance Podcast, I'm doing a deeper dive into low energy availability and Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport, aka REDs, with sports dietitian, eating disorder specialist, and REDs expert, Rebecca McConville, MS RD LD CSSD CEDRD. Rebecca wrote the book “Finding Your Sweet S…
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In this episode of Between Two Coaches, Amanda and Nick discuss various aspects of marathon training and things they can't believe other people don't do. They also share some personal updates Like Nick doing his first workout in 6 months, do some listener engagement with questions and reviews, and share some grievances surrounding the Boston Marath…
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"We were like Taylor Swift's little side chicks." This episode features Sophie Carmen-Jones who was one of the Macavity Girls in the 2019 CATS Movie and is currently performing as Nini in Moulin Rouge The Musical on Broadway after originating the role in the West End. Hear Sophie discuss what it was like being in the infamous movie, her experience …
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In this conversation, Coach Amanda and Coach Nick discuss their recent experiences and answer listener questions. They talk about Amanda's trip to Chicago for Brooks HypeFest and Nick's struggles with illness and training. They also share a grievance about influencers and pushing supplements as performance enhancers. In this conversation, Nick shar…
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"I've done it with Richard Stafford which is the American version and I've done it with Chrissie Cartwright which is the British version. And those are not the same shows." This episode features Erica Leigh Hansen who played Jennyanydots on the US National Tour 5 of CATS as well as on the Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas first and th…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! In Episode 98 of the Eat for Endurance Podcast, I’m taking advantage of a short break between guests to bring you a solo episode all about recovery nutrition for endurance athletes. Many of my clients are training for some exciting events this Fall, and I’m getting lots of questions about what to eat aft…
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On this episode Coach Nick and Coach Amanda are joined by Dr. Stacy Sims, a female athlete performance physiologist, to discuss the physiological differences in training and nutrition for women, particularly during perimenopause. In this episode the three talk about how training, fueling and recovery needs are all different in women vs men especial…
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Throughout the summer, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "A theater is a temple. This is the fourth institution where the five necessary questions are answered. You have to answer a question. You ha…
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In this conversation, the Coach Nick and Coach Amanda are joined by Leah Avery and Winnie Lizardo to discuss various topics related to physical therapy and recovery for Part 4 of the Need or Nah Series. They cover the effectiveness of recovery tools such as massage, compression boots, and Theragun, and also discuss the use of cold therapy and icing…
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Throughout the summer, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "He also has to have that edge of realness. Like straight passing. Because his life outside of this space is not the same." This episode feat…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! Welcome to Episode 97 of the Eat for Endurance Podcast, featuring runner, coach, and native New Yorker, Amanda Katz. Amanda identifies as a body neutral strength and run coach, and believes that all bodies deserve a fitness experience without punishment, guilt, or shame. Amen to that. I’m a big fan of Am…
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In this episode Coach Nick and Coach Amanda have guests Elisabeth Scott and Toni Kengor on for part 3 of the Need or Nah Series talking about all things running. The guests share how they have all met one another and share their experiences with running and then dive into a range of topics and whether they are Needs or Nahs in the running world. Th…
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Throughout the summer, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "We were trying to figure out how to push that envelope with Sillabub being the watcher. Zhailon came up to me and was like, what if you had …
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Welcome to Part 2 of the Need/Nah Series all about Nutrition. Coach Nick and Coach Amanda are joined by Registered Dietitians Stevie Lyn Smith and Kylee Van Horn and they discuss various topics including the importance of getting your period for athletes, the risks of consuming raw milk, and the role of processed foods in an athlete's diet. They di…
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Throughout the summer, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "It’s giving like she won Legendary and got the million dollar prize. This is a game show and she wants some coin." This episode features Dav…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! In Episode 96 of the Eat for Endurance Podcast, sports dietitian Brooke Czarnecki of Intentful Nutrition joins me on the pod to help me answer a listener question. This person asked to learn more about organic foods as a runner, and also mentioned that she tries to minimize processed foods surrounding he…
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In this episode, Coach Amanda and Coach Nick are joined by Matt Meyer and Maddie Myers to discuss various fitness topics in Part 1 of their Need or Nah series. They cover glute activation, mobility, lifting weights, Pilates, cycle syncing workouts, fasted workouts and contrast therapy. The group goes through each topic and gives a Need or Nah about…
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"Theater is moving forward and I think it happened the same way with the same show. When I saw it I had that feeling that this is a real mile marker in musical theater history again with the show." This bonus episode is a conversation about CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" featuring Jacob Brent who played Mr. Mistoffelees on Broadway and in the 1998 CATS …
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Throughout the summer, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. We were live at BroadwayCon 2024 with Omari Wiles and Arturo Lyons, the choreography team behind CATS: "The Jellicle Ball," to chat about rei…
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In this episode, the Nick and Amanda are joined by Stephanie Roth-Goldberg and discuss disordered behaviors, and dependency with exercise. Stephanie is a psychotherapist specializing in eating disorders among athletes. They explore the concept of exercise addiction and the difference between addiction and dependence. They highlight signs and sympto…
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "We wanted to approach it as this re-contextualized version of fatness and what fatness means. The duality of Fat and Phat." This episode …
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "Macavity wants to steal Victoria from the House of Dots and have me join the House of Macavity." This episode features Baby who plays Vic…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! Welcome to Episode 95 of The Eat for Endurance Podcast! I have an Athlete Nutrition Profile for you today, featuring ultrarunner and coach Jes Woods. You may already be familiar with Jes, especially if you live in NYC. She coaches thousands of athletes through Nike Run Club, Brooklyn Track Club, and Broo…
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In this conversation, Nick and Amanda discuss various topics including remembering names, receiving listener love, and Amanda's grievances with Con Ed. In this conversation, Amanda and Nick discuss the concept of 'all in' exercise culture and its potential harm to mental and physical health. They highlight the obsession with exercise and the inabil…
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "There are all these sweet moments but does she not try to push his buttons a little bit?" This episode features Shereen Pimentel who play…
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "We have to remember we’re angelic cats. This is what we’re finding and it’s crazy how it lends itself. It’s called the Jellicle Ball. It’…
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In this episode, Coach Amanda and Coach Nick are joined by special guest Justin Andreas. They discuss their recent activities, including trail running, long runs, and running in the rain. They also answer a listener question about packing a toothbrush for long runs. Coach Nick shares his grievance about run clubs being labeled as dating clubs, expr…
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "In this version we are brother and sister. We have decided that Rumpleteazer is my little sister that I’ve brought into the ballroom comm…
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Want to get in touch? Send Claire a message! In Episode 94 of the Eat for Endurance Podcast, sports dietitian Holley Samuel (MS RD CSSD) joins me to talk about body image among athletes. Holley and I explore how you can improve or at least neutralize your mindset when experiencing negative body image so that you can embrace fueling yourself adequat…
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In this conversation, Nick and Amanda discuss various topics including communication, boundaries, vacations, watermelons, and garnering support from family for running and working out. They also share a listener review and answer a listener question. In this conversation, Nick and Amanda discuss five problems in the fitness coaching world. They tal…
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "Remembering the first episode I didn’t really understand CATS. Now I get it. I’m in. I drank the Kool Aid. I’m here and I love it." This …
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Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "If I had a dollar for every time someone said ‘I’ve always hated CATS but I love this CATS’ I’d have doubled my salary on the show." This…
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Coach Nick and Coach Amanda discuss fitness as you age and some tips to stay in the game longer. The conversation covers various topics including Instagram fake news, fitness as you age, running experiences, movies, Olympic trials, and the trend of 'raw dogging' in running culture. In this episode, Amanda and Nick discuss the importance of adapting…
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