417: Johann Hari on Lost Connections


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Johann Hari is the New York Times bestselling author of Chasing the Scream, which has been adapted into a feature film. Johann was twice named ‘National Newspaper Journalist of the Year’ by Amnesty International UK He has written for the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and many other publications. His latest book is Lost Connections: Uncovering the Real Causes of Depression and the Unexpected Solutions,

In this episode, Johann and Eric discuss his book that proposes a more holistic, societal look at the causes and treatment of depression.

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In This Interview, Johann Hari and I Discuss Lost Connections and …

  • His new book, Lost Connections: Uncovering the Real Causes of Depression and the Unexpected Solutions
  • The two kinds of human connection
  • Intrinsic (internal) and extrinsic (external) motivations
  • “Junk” values
  • The more you’re driven by extrinsic values, the more likely you’ll suffer from anxiety and depression in your life
  • Our society drives us to live in this extrinsic way
  • The whole point of advertising is to make us feel inadequate and our problems can be solved by buying
  • Extrinsic motives can crowd out the more fulfilling intrinsic motives
  • The 9 causes of depression and anxiety
  • The need to look more holistically at anxiety and depression than just a chemical imbalance
  • The loneliest culture that has ever been
  • The importance of addressing the deep environmental factors/reasons why we’re so depressed and anxious
  • Our sense of home and sense of belonging
  • The problems manifested by being isolated and alone and the benefit of being part of a “tribe”
  • Realizing that you’re not the only one who struggles and feels the way you do
  • Grief and the diagnosis of depression
  • Just having a chemical imbalance means your pain doesn’t have meaning
  • Depression and not having your needs met
  • Following the pain to its source
  • Pathologizing Depression

Johann Hari Links:

Johann’s Website




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