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The Circuit Breaker

Bob Moesta and Greg Engle

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Welcome to the Circuit Breaker Podcast where we challenge the status quo of innovation and new product development. In this show, we will discuss tools and skills, and methodologies used to build better products and make you a better consumer. Your host is Bob Moesta who is one of the co-founders of the Rewired Group and he is joined by Greg Engel, the other co-founder, and chief Bob interpreter. Join us now as we trip the circuit and give you time to reset, reorganize and recharge your brai ...
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Bob Moesta and Chris Spiek apply the Jobs-to-be-Done Innovation Framework to current hot topics related to product design, marketing, business strategy, and technology. Tune in for a tactician's view of how the Jobs-to-be-Done Framework is applied to every-day business challenges.
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A Sherpa's Guide to Innovation

Jay Gerhart & Ben Tingey

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Are you looking to better understand and apply innovation theories, methods, and tools? Do you need to think about your business or industry in a different way? Join the Sherpas as they conduct spirited conversations and tell compelling stories to guide you along your innovation expedition. Get your gear ready! Business Model Innovation, Human-centered Design and Strategic Partnerships @SherpaPod @HealthPodNet Music Credit: Aurus Audio
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Business of Software is a place that brings together the brightest minds and greatest practitioners in software into one place. World-Class software leaders such as Joel Spolsky, Gail Goodman, Seth Godin, DHH, Dharmesh Shah, & Kathy Sierra come to teach everything except the code in how to scale great software companies that stay profitable in the long term. Expect the latest thinking and fresh perspectives from some of the world's leading software practitioners. Stay up to date and hear abo ...
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Casey Hill, Sr. Growth Manager at Active Campaign, joins us to discuss how content is consumed today, and how we content marketers can stay relevant to our audience. 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 0:00 - Introduction 01:21 - Importance of Building a Media Company 07:38 - Considerations for Small Marketing Teams 08:57 - Skimma…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Adam Turinas, CEO & Founder, Healthlaunchpad, joins us to discuss how to map your content to your buyer journey using intent data. So if you're looking for tips on building a meaningful content strategy that drives results, then this is the episode for you! 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗧𝗘𝗥𝗦 00:00 - Intro 01:36 - Buyer journey as…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Sam Dunning, the Sales Director and Co-Owner of Web Choice, joins us to discuss how to drive revenue with SEO and what makes for a great B2B SaaS website. He shares how to build the content marketing strategy for your SaaS, how to go about your SEO strategy and design a website that speaks to your custom…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Devin Reed, the Head of Content at Clari, joins us to talk about content strategy for early-stage SaaS startups. He shares about how to build the content marketing strategy for your SaaS, even if you're a team of one. Devin covers webinars, podcasts, blogs, ebooks and the whole nine yards, including how …
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Bob Moesta, one of the pioneers of the Jobs To Be Done (JTBD) framework and the CEO of Rewired Group, joins us to discuss how to create impactful content using JTBD. Bob talks about how SaaS companies can use the Jobs To Be Done framework to create content across formats such as blogs, product pages, and…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Dustin Tysick, VP of Revenue at TestimonialHero shares insights on how to create compelling and authentic customer testimonials. Customer testimonials are one of the best ways to show potential customers that you're a trustworthy organization to work with. However, the key is to keep them authentic. List…
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In our upcoming BoS USA conference in Raleigh NC on 2-4 October, we're doing a really interesting afternoon digging into a case study with the great folks at Autobooks. Mark sits down with to of the four Autobookers taking to the stage in the fall to discuss connecting sales with marketing. Happy listening!…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Scott Marker dives into what he believes are the biggest reasons why content marketing falls short for sales. We all know that content is the key to driving inbound opportunities, but what many people don't realize is that content can fall short in truly helping your sales teams close more deals. Whether…
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Are you making these common customer newsletter mistakes? In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Mark Evans, the Principal at Marketing Spark, shares with you some tips on how to avoid these mistakes and create newsletters that your customers will love. If you're looking to improve your customer relationships, then you need to listen to this …
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Anthony Pierri, partner at Fletch PMM, share how you can elevate your product messaging. Anthony shares with us how to use product messaging frameworks to improve the clarity and brevity of your messages and how to personalize them for specific audiences. Suppose you want to improve the clarity and brevi…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Morgan J Ingram shares how organic content marketing can help you amplify your brand narrative. He explains how the Angel Falls Method helps you create content that will work for you, and engage your customers on a deeper level. Morgan shares some powerful case studies of businesses such as Lavender that…
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In this episode, Jon Morrow, the founder of SmartBlogger, shares the ultimate web traffic strategy for growing your business. Jon is completely paralyzed from the neck down and controls his computer with voice, but that hasn't stopped him from creating content that drives traffic in millions and also translates to revenue. Jon shares everything you…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Andres Glusman, the CEO of DoWhatWorks joins us to discuss how to master growth experiments. We discuss everything from how to design and run growth experiments, to doing copy optimization, and more. If you're looking to improve your conversion, and the overall growth, then this episode is for you. By th…
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In this episode, Ryan Law, the CMO at Animalz, shares content marketing frameworks and the secrets to creating functional as well as unforgettable content using AI. You'll learn how to create engaging and shareable content, without wasting precious time and resources. If you're looking to create better content, be it videos, or thought leadership, …
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, April Dunford joins us to discuss positioning. She shares how a SaaS company can express their positioning through their content, sales pitches, and more. She also throws light on when and how frequently should an organization test and adjust their positioning. If you're a founder, marketer or a sales pe…
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➟ In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Nick Bennet shares how he used event-led growth and evangelism with content to build a revenue pipeline of $2m in 1 month. Nick runs 26 events in one quarter. He is currently the Sr. Director of Event-led Growth and Evangelism at Airmeet. If you're looking to build a strong pipeline with events and con…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Jakub Rudnik shares how he in his previous role at Scribe, took the website traffic from 0 to 25k in 6 months. Jakub is currently the Director of Content Marketing at ActiveCampaign. In this episode, Jakub covers the following topics: How content marketing strategy is different for horizontal SaaS vs. Ve…
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➟ In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Andrus Purde, the CEO of Outfunnel, shares content and pricing lessons learned from customer churns in 2022 and how to attract the right customers that are a fit for your product. Customer churn is a common reality for SaaS businesses of all sizes. Andrus talks about how he as a founder looks at the ro…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Tara Robertson, the head of demand generation at Chili Piper shares an inside scoop of what makes their demand generation model effective, their social media strategy, and why their sales team takes a no discount policy stand. She discusses what makes the different channels of Chili Piper tick, sometimes…
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➟ In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Will Aitken from Lavender shares immediately actionable tips on how to create effective content for specific channels such as Youtube, TikTok, podcasts, blogs and more.He discusses why it's important to make content that is truly valuable and not just self-promotional. He specifically talks about how t…
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In this episode of The SaaS Sprints Podcast, Melissa Rosenthal, shares how ClickUp grew 100x using content. Melissa with her strong media background, has had several successful stints across companies like Buzzfeed, Cheddar, and more. Since 2019, she has taken ClickUp's content marketing game to a whole new level.In this first episode of The SaaS S…
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The meeting is about helping you shape a new way or a different path. It's about letting everybody be heard. It's about discussing and having real discussions about what has worked in the past and what the new direction is. In today's Circuit Breaker episode, Bob and Greg look at a tool they use frequently: the Gut Check. Bob recalls a consumer pac…
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“Make sure you're comfortable learning and describing the things you don't know rather than trying to articulate what you do know and finding a way to verify only what you do know. There is no such thing as a completely red line or a completely green line.” In today's Circuit Breaker episode, Bob and Greg delve into the "green line" vs. the "red li…
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If I were to change anything, it would be to make sure that students understand why they're there and what progress they're trying to make. That will actually help set the curriculum in the right way for how much and what they should be learning. In today's Circuit Breaker episode, Bob and Greg explore an interesting topic from an audience member: …
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Most of the time the process assumes linearity, like step one, step two, step three, step four, but in reality sometimes there is iteration. And there are phases of work as opposed to steps of work. In today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg address a current trend they've noticed in their interactions with customers, balancing th…
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Listening is about actually understanding where people are going and what they are trying to do. You need to listen very carefully not only to what they are saying, but how they are saying it. On today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg address one of their guiding principles, listening, particularly in the context of JTBD. You'll …
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It's a tool that you have to respect. But you need to realize that ChatGPT can only give you so much. It's only going to regurgitate what's already there; it's not going to help you actually come up with new thoughts. In today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg will delve into Chat GPT and express their concerns and fears about it.…
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Demand is demand, and supply is your supply. And you must match the two. Only when both sides match can you make a product. In today's Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg unpack the milkshake story, or what their competitors call "the milkshake marketing myth." They'll explore how the fast food restaurant was able to increase sales of milkshakes and…
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Progress is when an F1 and an F2 are greater than an F3 and an F4. So push and pull are greater than habits and anxieties. In today's Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg discuss why New Year's resolutions or new habits are hard to maintain as well as their frameworks for achieving and maintaining them. As a first step, they address the forces of pro…
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If I paint the picture for you, I'm convincing. If you paint the picture for me and answer my questions, you create your own context. On today's Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg tackle the myth of convincing and how it leads to buyer's remorse as they talk about selling new ideas. Bob describes a case from the past where convincing someone comple…
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Empathetic perspective and trade-offs kind of go hand in hand. In today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg continue their discussion of Bob's book, focusing specifically on trade-offs. You'll learn how empathetic perspective and trade-offs intertwine, for example, by understanding and emulating consumer trade-offs when designing a …
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Cause and effect is something that affects every area of our lives, even if we aren't aware of it. This is particularly true in innovation. On today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg dive into a subject covered in Bob's book, "Learning to Build," namely causal structures, and why they represent one of the five bedrock skills every…
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Technical benchmarking is usually done on the supply side, and consumer benchmarking is done on the demand side. On today's Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg talk about benchmarking and how it works as a kind of prototyping to find a common language for marketing, sales and developing a better product. You'll learn about technical benchmarking and…
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I don't need to sell my product; I need to help people buy it. On today's Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg discuss their book Demand-Side Sales. They will talk about why they wrote it, and what they learned from it. They'll also talk about what they believe to be the most difficult challenge for people implementing demand-side sales. Bob will giv…
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When you do a survey or ask a customer in a very generic way, "Why did you buy this?" and they say, "On impulse," that's just a way to shut you down. On today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg unravel impulse buys. They talk about the classic mattress, the interview with Brian Walker where he explains why buying a mattress was an …
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Restocking is all about consistency, and shopping is when I have an anomaly. On today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg go over the difference between "restocking" and "shopping" and show you how to get your customers into the habit of buying. You'll learn how to change the design of your product to make it more impactful, and tha…
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Really good innovators and entrepreneurs have this ability to see things and connect the dots between different views. They are empathetic because they do not judge what it is. Rather, they ask themselves, What is it? And what can we do with it? On today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, Bob and Greg talk about the empathetic perspective in Bo…
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Ben and Jay welcome back the one and only Bob Moesta for a record 4th episode. Bob is a founding father of Jobs to Be Done theory, CEO of The ReWired Group (which has a great new website) and author of the recently published Learning to Build: 5 Bedrock Skills of Innovators and Entrepreneurs. Hear Bob talk about why he wrote the book, a couple of n…
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For our penultimate episode of 2022, we interview Perry Klebahn about his soon-to-be-published book Ideaflow: The Only Business Metric that Matters, co-authored with Jeremy Utley. Perry is an Adjunct Professor and Director of Executive Education at the Hasso Plattner Institute of Design--the d.school--at Stanford University. Prior to his role at th…
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Ben & Jay reconnect with a former colleague and friend of innovation, Mona Baset, Vice President, Digital Services at Intermountain Healthcare. During her career prior to Intermountain, Mona has held a variety of leadership positions in marketing and technology at Atrium Health and Bank of America. While at Atrium Health, she participated in the ve…
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Ben & Jay dig again into Jobs to Be Done, this time from a fascinating perspective with Ruth Hartt, Chief of Staff to the President at the Christensen Institute and creator of Culture for Hire. Ruth, a former opera singer and vocal teacher, is passionate about bringing customer-centric innovation to arts marketing. Classical music audiences have de…
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Ben & Jay have a fun Jobs to Be Done deep dive with Scott Burleson, Senior Vice President at the AIM Institute, a company on a mission to change B2B innovation. Scott is an expert in Outcome-Driven Innovation, with deep product management and innovation experience at John Deere and Strategyn. He is author of The Statue in the Stone: Decoding Custom…
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We do a postmortem on the podcast to help us frame what we're going to do in season two. In today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, we reflect on a tool we frequently use, the postmortem, and present some thoughts on the season that just ended. You'll learn about the unexpected growth Bob and Greg have achieved. You'll learn what strategies th…
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I see prototyping as a tool that I can use on both the supply and demand sides. In today's episode of the Circuit Breaker Show, we take a closer look at one of the skills Bob discusses in his book Prototyping to learn. Bob distinguishes between divergent and convergent prototypes and the contexts in which both can be used. You'll learn about the di…
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Ben & Jay venture into technology, invention and intrapreneurship with Kapil Kane, Director of Innovation for Intel Corporation in China. Kapil co-founded and leads GrowthX, an award-winning corporate - startup accelerator that has launched multiple new businesses generating $400M+ in projected revenues through bottoms-up innovations in areas of AI…
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